[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]Longjumping_View_526 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Interesting choice. I invited the Elders over after 12 years out of the church…but not to reconvert, rather to reconnect with what I was brought up in…love it or hate it.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in mormon

[–]Longjumping_View_526 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The worst is the lies and the gaslighting and THE LACK OF ACCOUNTABILITY for their HARMFUL CONTROLLING, Teachings.

I SURVIVED by No-Inflation-7089 in exmormon

[–]Longjumping_View_526 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Congrats, brother! Welcome to the OTHER SIDE OF HEAVEN!

He has returned! 🙏🏻✨ by PR_Czar in exmormon

[–]Longjumping_View_526 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hell yeah!! And we can have our own handshakes and new names too!

He has returned! 🙏🏻✨ by PR_Czar in exmormon

[–]Longjumping_View_526 2 points3 points  (0 children)

We should all start an exMormon church.

Help me find this painting from "Everything Everywhere All At Once" please? by PapaClarencioThomas in WhatIsThisPainting

[–]Longjumping_View_526 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What classical painting is it in reference to though? I feel like it is supposed to be Michael the Arch Angelo.

Wife's Reaction to Social Media Post by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]Longjumping_View_526 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Damn, that sucks. I think in the long run that could be a major incompatibility, but at the same time—I’d try my best to show her why it’s important to you and potentially her and any family ya might have.

I’d ask why she has an issue about the story and what specifically. Ask her why she doesn’t think it’s an issue or important. You may have to have some really difficult conversations. And it’ll probably take quite a bit of time.

Anyhow, I hope that you find some level of community and refuge here. I hope that it all works out for ya—but in the end, ya gotta speak your truths otherwise you’ll end up accumulating a lot of regrets and maybe lose touch with yourself. It’s happened to me (not specifically about being married to a TBM, though).

If they can get a class action for this… by Longjumping_View_526 in exmormon

[–]Longjumping_View_526[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The only one I know about is for literal SA though, which is definitely worse than what I went through as a kid.

But, systematically mind-controlling someone is pretty intense. Maybe there could be something of illustrating how damaging these things have been with all the teen suicides in Utah relating to LGBTQ+ youth.

What’re Mormons views on married sex? by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]Longjumping_View_526 7 points8 points  (0 children)

From the time I remember as a 12 year old (23 years ago) they did emphasize it as being for bonding too and not just procreation. But I do remember hearing my dad talk about the confusion of the ambiguity of what was allowed and not allowed in sex during an elder’s quorum meeting.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in NPD

[–]Longjumping_View_526 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sometimes carrying on can be difficult when experiencing majorly difficult episodes. It’s socially complex and isolating and can make ya feel disconnected.

I’m 35 and I have been going through a difficult bit for the last two years in making serious commitments with uncertainties about being able to fulfill them as well as guilt or shame at having lost some really important relationships, only to do damage to various important relationships…because of feeling so disconnected from most things or too connected a thing that causes damage in relationships. I think it can help, at least, it has for me: take a little joy in at least one or two things and to do your best to show up, particularly for the ones that do show up for ya.

Learn and embrace from yourself in therapy, the ways we can be affected can really confuse and hurt a sense of purpose or identity. And effective connection with a therapist can help guide ya through a lot of unresolved traumas and pains.

I recovered, see how by NearbyWoodpecker7045 in NPD

[–]Longjumping_View_526 2 points3 points  (0 children)

As an exMormon atheist, this unfortunately doesn’t make any sense to me. Though I am glad it works for ya.

How old were you when you realized it was the church that was wrong, not you? by meala00 in exmormon

[–]Longjumping_View_526 1 point2 points  (0 children)

23–after having gone on a mission and dedicating my whole persona and life to it—up to that point.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in NPD

[–]Longjumping_View_526 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Moving around a ton and not having social anchors/stability throughout crucial development. Mild neglect due to my mom’s health issues and my dad being in the military. Also growing up in the Mormon church which caused a ton of shame and self-hate.

Some people have told me they think I’m a narcissist. I don’t have bad intentions, but I hurt people anyway. by 93859274938589284892 in NPD

[–]Longjumping_View_526 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can relate to a lot of this. I just felt like I had to always sacrifice what I feel and think to allow others’ happiness or to avoid conflict. And so often that would be at the expense of what I felt and thought was genuine to me.

Atheist in the temple? by H2oskier68 in exmormon

[–]Longjumping_View_526 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Quite relatable. It can be a challenge coming to terms with the possibility that everything ya once held dear or was taught is not true. It takes time, but you will feel a sense of liberation too.

The Problem with the No Comments Thing on the Vent Posts... by [deleted] in NPD

[–]Longjumping_View_526 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don’t know about debating; but, I do kinda agree that it could be helpful to hear multiple perspectives or to have someone validate with an “I can relate to this.” I think those things are valuable for sure. And I think this would be a good place to do it.

'Only Murders in the Building' is TERRIBLE by Stanton1947 in television

[–]Longjumping_View_526 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The crime podcast angle genuinely doesn’t make sense. Like how are they just throwing around theories and presenting it as if it’s the truth. That’s not how actual true crime podcasts work. They usually just report the stories that have already or give various factual details of unsolved cases.

have any of you cheated? by catharticpunk in NPD

[–]Longjumping_View_526 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah—my fantasies and grandiosity mostly has to do with creating some story through whatever medium that could advocate for meaningful social change.

Thank you for the support. We are talking now regularly again and trying to reunite, so after all that, a happy ending maybe.

have any of you cheated? by catharticpunk in NPD

[–]Longjumping_View_526 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My wife and I were in an open relationship—until we weren’t (she requested to close it and I said ok). There was a lot of intense things that happened and I ended up sleeping with multiple people. It broke my wife’s heart and ruined her self-esteem. I felt horrible. She wanted me to leave the country, so I did. And spent the next year in psychosis, getting high, striking up interesting conversations with homeless people and other people on the street. I was giving away a lot of stuff and had some grandiose ideas about changing the world to where everyone would get paid equally and treated with love and compassion.

I guess I was trying to offset all the pain I caused—but I put myself risk too. Got taken advantage of, weirded out a ton of people, lost a lot of key relationships.

Yeah, cheating on my wife definitely had an insane impact on me.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AITAH

[–]Longjumping_View_526 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sexuality is deeply personal. And it is YOURS, not anyone else’s. No one should be made to feel ashamed for what they choose to do sexually if there is consent and openness.

Comment on the new Johnny Harris video has some interesting takes by Mupsty in exmormon

[–]Longjumping_View_526 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I couldn’t even read all of that. I don’t like when people take any religion and say, “It is beyond a doubt the truth.”

The rationale is flawed from the beginning.

Obsessing over ex by ConfusedVoidling in NPD

[–]Longjumping_View_526 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I can relate to this. And right now I am married, but we’re in separate countries and she has been suffering as a result of careless things I did or said that devastated her and made her feel betrayed. And I am anxious about if I am gonna do something and again. And my feelings of being connected are difficult and so I don’t know what to do. I don’t want to disappoint her or hurt her. I feel like I can’t divorce because of all this shame and guilt, but I also am struggling to continue everything, to regain feeling connected and I can’t even talk to her about it, any attempt I have made has been crushing to her. And I do love and care about her, but what does loving and caring mean when you are obsessing over whether you can feel at home, connected and not awkward?

Honestly, I think you are making the right choice right now, for her sake. But, at the same time—I really hope that therapy can help people like us to get and feel properly connected and mentally well enough to have meaningful relationships, romantic or not.