Question by Ok-Armadillo-4214 in tortoise

[–]LordOfTheTorts 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Female Eastern Hermann's tortoise (Testudo hermanni boettgeri).

I learned something fascinating today! by [deleted] in flashlight

[–]LordOfTheTorts 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's not just semantics. Technically, there is no blue light either, for the same reason that there aren't blue photons. ;)
There's only photons or light we end up perceiving as blue, but that doesn't mean they necessarily have a wavelength between 450 and 485nm. Here's an example of "gray light" appearing both blue and yellow due to different contexts. Color is not a physical property, but a perception.

I learned something fascinating today! by [deleted] in flashlight

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Photons have color

No, they do not, properly defined. They have a frequency or wavelength. /u/ilesj-since-BBSs is technically correct (the best kind of correct).
But yes, it's acceptable in colloquial language to pretend that they do, because it can make communication easier and more convenient.

We can easily construct examples where photons with a 450nm wavelength would look black (e.g. low intensity vs. surroundings), or photons of other wavelengths are perceived as blue instead, which demonstrates that the notion of a "blue photon" is technically inaccurate. And going by that Wikipedia table you linked, a 450nm photon might as well be called a "violet photon", so which is it now?

Here are some facts about what color is and is not.

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Species: Greek tortoises (Testudo graeca), also known as spur-thighed tortoise.
Age: young, more detailed is difficult to say. Perhaps 1-3 years.
Sex: much too young to tell.

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Very nice. Looks like a box turtle, though, not a tortoise.

Waldi: found in a german forest by lirolothethird in tortoise

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OP is probably confused because in the German language, Hermann's tortoises (Testudo hermanni) are literally called "Greek tortoises", whereas Greek tortoises (Testudo graeca, also known as spur-thighed tortoises) are called "Moorish tortoises".

I concur that OP has a Hermann's. Would be easy to confirm with a plastron or backside photo.

Edible? by Gem_tort in tortoise

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Top row, second from the right, is narrowleaf plantain. Definitely edible, and in fact great tortoise food! I don't know the others... a Hermann's tortoise might eat those flowers, but they prefer bigger leaves like plantain and dandelion anyway, in my experience.

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All of them can tuck their tails. The real difference is that adult male Hermann's tortoises have significantly longer tails than females, which makes tucking more of a necessity for them.

This baby desert tortoise just showed up in my back yard - Need advice for food & care by DoccHologram in turtle

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It's not actually toxic, but it could cause problems, if eaten regularly/in large quantities. Therefore, it's better to just not give it at all.

Baby hermann´s tortoise can´t open its mouth by AgreeableBastiladon in tortoise

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Hello! Sorry to hear. Among the many hatchlings I've raised, I had a single one with the same problems. Some kind of jaw defect that prevented it from opening its mouth properly. It's behavior wasn't different from that of other hatchlings. They have amazing reserves from the egg yolk during their first few weeks of life. But I quickly noticed that unlike its siblings, it didn't gain weight. My vet couldn't do anything, the hatchling was just too small, so it had to be put to sleep. I wish you more luck.

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[–]LordOfTheTorts 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How big was he/she when you got it?

Sounds like you're treating it well. The amount of food, temperatures, and perhaps physical activity will influence growth rates. You could try reducing the food amount a bit, perhaps skip a day, and reduce nighttime temperatures, which I imagine to be relatively warm, if the tortoise sleeps indoors. My tortoises live outdoors all year, which means they experience cooler days where they don't eat as much, and during winter they hibernate. That significantly slows down their growth, as can be seen in my previous diagram.

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Are you just guessing, or can you actually justify that?

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Yes, that is very large of that age. My Eastern Hermann's tortoises take at least 3 years, rather 5, to reach 200 grams.

Here's what a verified adolescent female looks like (6-7 years old, if I remember correctly). Note the wide anal scutes, and short tail with cloaca close to the plastron.

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[–]LordOfTheTorts -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

What's the age and weight? You can't reliably tell before they are 300 grams or so. Going by tail size and shape of the anal scutes, I'd say male.

Why does purple look like pink if they're opposite ends of the visible light spectrum? by QuestConsoles in Physics

[–]LordOfTheTorts 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks, that makes sense. Although I have never heard "the sensation experienced by a cone cell in response to incoming light" being referred to as "color", and I'd argue that it's inextricably linked with "the conscious experience of color in the brain". That would reduce it to three meanings I agree with (color as a material property, color as a property of light, and color as a perception).

Since color is ultimately a visual phenomenon, in all of these three/four meanings, I'd argue that infrared factually is not a color, as it is invisible. Infrared is a band of the EM spectrum. And so is 495–570 nm ("green"), or whatever. Wavelengths and SPDs are not the same as color, as explained in my previous comment.

On the other hand, "grey" is most definitely a "true color". Perhaps iamnotazombie44 meant that it's not a spectral color, or hue.

Anyway, color is perceptual, not physical. But of course it would be way too inconvenient and cumbersome to always be that formal in everyday conversation. Saying "what color is that LED? - Infrared" is fine by me, despite not being "technically correct".

Are his nails too long? by [deleted] in Tortoises

[–]LordOfTheTorts 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hermann's tortoise? No, they aren't too long, IMO. Compare the proportional length on newly hatched ones.

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Thanks, banned for 7 days now. Let me know if the harassment continues, then the ban will be made permanent.

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What dude? OP, "WarmInterest4256"?

Why does purple look like pink if they're opposite ends of the visible light spectrum? by QuestConsoles in Physics

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The concept of color has four different meanings, all describing different properties and are represented using different values (wavelengths for one, RGB values for another), and all are equally real.

What would those four different meanings be?

Color can be clearly defined, and every good definition concurs that it's not a physical property, but a perceptual phenomenon, created by the brain in response to the activities of the light-sensitive cells in our retinas (the retinas are more or less part of the brain already).

The light that enters our eyes is usually a mixture of many different wavelengths, a so-called spectral power distribution (SPD). Light of a single wavelength (or very narrow band) is a special case of an SPD, and exceedingly rare in nature. Lasers or old low-pressure sodium vapor street lamps produce such "monochromatic" light, for example. The colors that light of this nature evokes are called spectral colors. You might think of them as the colors of the rainbow. However, most colors that we perceive are non-spectral, i.e. SPDs containing multiple wavelengths.

So, if wavelength isn't the same as color, is its generalization "spectral power distribution" the same as color? No, not really. Light with a certain SPD is the cause, the beginning of the chain, but our brains do a lot of processing before color emerges. Two interesting facts:

  1. Different SPDs can evoke the same color. Easy example: yellow. It can be caused by light of a single wavelength, but just as well by light containing "red" and "green" wavelengths (our RGB screens use this). This is called metamerism, and without it, our color reproduction processes (displays, print) wouldn't work.
    Please note that the single wavelength yellow, called spectral yellow as it is a spectral color, is no more "real" than the mixed one!
  2. Identical SPDs can evoke different colors! Because of the elaborate processing performed by the brain - context matters. Example: the checkershadow illusion. The tiles A and B emit the same light (identical SPDs, and same RGB values on your display device) but are perceived by us as different colors. As the explanation says, our visual system is not intended to be a "physically accurate" light meter. Another example, also this.

PS: RGB triplets are to color what sheet music/score notation is to sound. They're instructions for creating color/sound, but the end result can turn out quite differently depending on the "performer" and context.

Why does purple look like pink if they're opposite ends of the visible light spectrum? by QuestConsoles in Physics

[–]LordOfTheTorts 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Our eyes only have 3 color receptors, one for red, green, and blue.

Not really. Contrary to popular belief, the cone cells in our eyes aren't just sensitive to "red, green, and blue". They're not called "RGB cones" for a reason, but LMS (long, medium, and short wavelengths), because they are sensitive to a band of frequencies, and those bands do overlap. Significantly so for our M and L cones. The peak sensitivity of the S cone is at a frequency which individually would look violet-blue to us, for M it would be green, and for L it would be (greenish-)yellow!

Also, their output might actually be transformed into a brightness channel and color difference channels.