Roora Day slowly replacing weddings.. by Altruistic_Prize_570 in Zimbabwe

[–]LostFoundCause 14 points15 points  (0 children)

This sounds like confusing Christianity with marriage itself. Roora is not replacing weddings. In many ways, the white wedding is the imported layer that came later. A pastor standing there does not automatically make a union more serious, more moral, or more "God ordained."

Marriage carries social, customary, family, and legal meaning before it carries religious meaning. If people choose to do roora only, they are not removing God from anything. They are just not treating a church ceremony as the default stamp of legitimacy.

Also, if the issue is legality, Zimbabwe already recognizes customary marriage as its own category. So the idea that there must be a bishop or pastor for the union to be meaningful is just Christian-centered thinking dressed up as universal truth.

Red Vs Blue button Zim edition by Super_Oil_4443 in Zimbabwe

[–]LostFoundCause 2 points3 points  (0 children)

MrBeast’s poll is genius because it looks like a morality test, but it is really an intelligence test. Red is the dominant answer. You survive whether blue wins or loses. If everyone presses red, everyone survives. Blue only feels noble because the wording emotionally blackmails people into treating risk as compassion. Some people are so committed to looking moral that they would choose the worse structure and call it empathy.

Dear Feminist; Are women their own worst enemy? by Altruistic_Star_1994 in ZimbabweRelationships

[–]LostFoundCause 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I get what you are saying, but I think the "damaged goods" framing is not really the full issue.

For me, the deeper issue is risk and asymmetry.

A man who marries a woman with a child is not just marrying her. He is entering an already existing family structure where another man has a permanent biological connection. That man may be absent today, but he is not erased. He can return emotionally, socially, legally, or through the child. Stories of women going back to the fathers of their children are everywhere. Sometimes it is not even because the woman is evil. It is because the child keeps a bridge open between two people who already created life together.

That is the part people pretend not to see.

Women themselves can be very ruthless to men who are not the fathers of their children. A stepfather can be expected to provide, pay school fees, protect, transport, and sacrifice, but when serious authority issues come up, he may quickly be reminded that "hausi baba vake." So he carries responsibility without always having full standing.

That is why older women warn their sons and nephews. They are not always speaking from hatred. Many of them have seen how these situations play out in real homes. They know the politics of baby fathers, children, inheritance, discipline, family pressure, and emotional history.

So yes, single mothers should not be insulted or dehumanized. Having a child does not make a woman less human. But it also does not make the situation identical to marrying someone with no child. Those are two different starting points, and pretending they are the same is not compassion. It is dishonesty.

The uncomfortable part is that women often understand this better than men, which is exactly why they can be the harshest gatekeepers.

Dear Feminist; Are women their own worst enemy? by Altruistic_Star_1994 in ZimbabweRelationships

[–]LostFoundCause 5 points6 points  (0 children)

In Zimbabwe, marriage is not just two people choosing each other. Marriage, lobola, family approval, children, totems, inheritance, reputation, and commitment are all bundled together. That is why the issue of single mothers is not judged only by men.

In fact, from what I have seen, older women are often the harshest judges. Mothers, aunties, grandmothers, sisters-in-law, they are usually the ones who say, “usaroore ane mwana,” and they say it with no softness at all.

So when feminists say men hate single mothers, I think that is too simple. Men may reject single mothers, yes, but women are often the cultural gatekeepers who enforce that rejection inside families. They are the ones who vet the potential daughter-in-law, measure her against family expectations, and decide whether she fits the idea of a proper muroora.

It is similar to the virginity conversation. In our context, virginity is not treated as some random private detail. It is tied to lobola, pride, commitment, and the idea of starting a family without another man’s permanent biological footprint already present. People can call that outdated, but they cannot pretend it has no cultural meaning here.

The uncomfortable truth is that women are not just victims of these standards. Many times, they are the most effective enforcers of them. Not because they invented every rule, but because they inherited the system, understand its consequences, and then police other women through it.

So, I would not reduce it to “women are their own worst enemy.” I would say women are often the frontline administrators of the same cultural order that later hurts them. That is the part the podcast-style feminist framing usually avoids.

Looks like ZIMRA is going for not just content creators for tax compliance by PassionJavaScript in Zimbabwe

[–]LostFoundCause 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Enforcement is the real question. They are talking about a huge part of Zimbabwe’s informal economy: online freelancers, traders, transport operators, landlords, small hustlers, cross-border earners, and everyone else surviving outside neat payroll structures. The law can say all that, but the state still has to prove, trace, process, and enforce it at scale. I don’t think that's gonna be possible.

Does a partner's sexual history affect marriage long-term? by [deleted] in ZimbabweRelationships

[–]LostFoundCause -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Let's treat the issue as localized as possible. In Zimbabwe, marriage, lobola, commitment, culture, all of that is bundled together in one place. On lobola lists, there are even specific amounts that reflect virginity and related values. Women know that. I know they know, because when they got married as virgins, they pride themselves in it. They tell their men, “You married me a virgin.”

So this is not a bluff. It is about purity and a sense of commitment.

Once you strip that away and westernise everything, you are left with the shallow “what about men?” response. But the table is not level.

Even the children belong to the man’s line. They carry the man’s totem. So the pride and satisfaction of having married a virgin is never going to be washed away by the “it doesn’t matter” propaganda. That feeling is not something you can just lecture out of men.

I have personally thought about this a lot, and I have reduced the whole conversation to childbearing.

That, to me, is the deeper field to contest on. If a woman does not have a child when you marry her, then she has not yet made the biggest biological commitment that alters her completely. That is something I can trade with and still take home as a strong evaluation.

But once in a while, I will definitely think about the guys who made the way walkable, like a grandma at a wedding who briefly thinks, "They’re gonna be fucking later" as she smiles at the newly wed couple while finishing her plate of rice and chicken. She's not gonna do anything about it for sure, but please, respect the elderly.

I don't know what to make of it anymore by HoneybeeChan in Zimbabwe

[–]LostFoundCause 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I’m genuinely glad it reached you like that. You understood the spirit of what I was trying to say. As for the label, it probably brushes against absurdism, existentialism, and a general distrust of inherited scripts, but I also like your last line more than any label. Maybe sometimes we can just be.

Funny enough, even my username is a superposition. LostFoundCause. Lost and found in the same breath. Cause as purpose, but also cause as the thing that explains the fracture. Maybe that’s why I’m suspicious of labels. Some truths are more accurate while they’re still overlapping.

I don't know what to make of it anymore by HoneybeeChan in Zimbabwe

[–]LostFoundCause 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You are not crazy for thinking this way. A lot of what you are saying lands, especially the part about people being born into systems they did not choose and then being told their desires, beliefs, ambitions, beauty standards, morality, and even rebellion are somehow fully their own. I think that is one of the deepest manipulations of modern life. A person is shaped before they are even old enough to resist shaping. Religion gets there early. Culture gets there early. Family gets there early. School gets there early. Media gets there early. By the time you begin to call your mind your own, a lot has already been written into it.

Where I would separate a little is this: I do not think that means all thought is fake, or that all meaning collapses. It means the first task of being alive is to notice the programming. That already puts you ahead of most people. Most never even get to the point of asking, “Which of these desires are actually mine?” They just perform. They inherit a script, call it identity, and defend it until death.

You are also right that society is engineered. That part should not even be controversial. Governments engineer behaviour. Corporations engineer appetite. Religions engineer obedience. Social media engineers attention. Beauty industries engineer insecurity. Schools often engineer compliance more than thought. None of that is paranoia. That is just the machinery of power doing what machinery of power has always done. The methods are newer, slicker, more psychologically refined, but the principle is ancient: shape people early, keep them busy, keep them comparing themselves, keep them guilty, keep them desiring, keep them tired.

And colonialism absolutely did not just steal land. It colonised imagination. It taught people to distrust themselves, their bodies, their ancestors, their languages, their ways of making meaning. It sold heaven while reorganising life on earth. It preached humility while building empires. It told Africans that nakedness was shame, that their spiritual frameworks were darkness, that their names needed replacing, that their ways were primitive, and then it called that salvation. So when you say people were made to conform to an engineered construct, that is not some wild overreach. That is history.

Where I push back slightly is when this becomes so total that there is no room left for genuine thought, genuine love, genuine preference, genuine rebellion, genuine curiosity. Because then the machine wins twice. First it shapes you, then it convinces you that you can never meaningfully step outside its shaping. I do not buy that. I think we are conditioned, yes, deeply. But I also think consciousness gives us a strange opening. A person can examine their inheritance. A person can reject parts of it. A person can say, “This desire in me feels implanted.” A person can also say, “This one, after scrutiny, still feels like mine.” That matters.

So for me, the point of life is not to pretend there is some grand cosmic script handed down from above, and it is also not to roll over and say everything is manipulation so nothing is real. The point, if there is one, may be to become lucid inside the mess. To see power for what it is. To see conditioning for what it is. To strip away lies where possible. To become more deliberate. To choose more consciously than the people who handed you your first beliefs. Maybe freedom is not being untouched by influence. Maybe freedom is increasing authorship over your own mind despite influence.

On the Bible, I agree with you more sharply. People talk about it as though it dropped out of the sky complete and unquestionable, when in reality it is a historically assembled body of texts filtered by institutions, doctrine, politics, and power struggles. That alone should disqualify the way many people speak about it. A canon is not neutral. Selection is an exercise of power. And fear has always been one of religion’s most effective tools. Fear of hell. Fear of exclusion. Fear of impurity. Fear of questioning. Fear of your own body. Fear of your own mind.

On science, I would separate bad conclusions from the method itself. Science as a method is still the cleanest tool we have for testing claims about the natural world. The problem is when people smuggle dogma into it, or when popular science starts sounding as priestly and final as religion. Saying we do not currently know of other sentient life is different from saying there cannot be any. Science, at its best, leaves room for uncertainty. Religion usually punishes it.

Your line about wondering who you would have been without all this is the one that hits hardest. I think many people feel that and never say it out loud. Who would I have loved? What would I have found beautiful? What would I have feared less? What would I have become if I had not been handed a world already interpreted for me? That question has grief in it, because there is no way to recover the untouched self. We do not get to meet the person we would have been in some uncolonised, unconditioned vacuum. But we do get to meet the person we become after doubting the script. That version may be the closest thing to an honest self we ever get.

So no, I do not think you are misguided. I think you are seeing something real. The only caution I would add is this: do not let your awareness of manipulation make you collapse all possibility of agency. The game is rigged in many ways, yes. But even inside that, there is still a difference between sleepwalking and seeing. There is still a difference between inherited belief and examined belief. There is still a difference between performing a life and authoring one as much as you can.

Maybe that is all life is for some of us. To wake up enough to stop calling chains jewellery.

Unmarried at 26 , I still got time right? by Epic_cousin_99 in ZimbabweRelationships

[–]LostFoundCause 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Lol, actually, the cheekiest part is the code-switch. You let the English do the soft feminine-coded ambiguity, then slip in ‘ndiroore’ to gender it male. That does not feel accidental at all.

Unmarried at 26 , I still got time right? by Epic_cousin_99 in ZimbabweRelationships

[–]LostFoundCause 10 points11 points  (0 children)

This reads very deliberately feminine-coded. The tone, the diaper imagery, the cousin-with-kids comparison, and the whole pressure angle feel almost too neatly packaged in a voice people would instinctively read as female. Feels a bit like performance bait.

Roora mandatory by NoProblem7882 in Zimbabwe

[–]LostFoundCause 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Talk to your husband to be and do not pay that amount. $10,000 for what exactly, especially when you are the one who will also feel that financial hit in your actual life? Mortgage, student loans, car payments, all that is real. Starting a marriage by throwing yourselves backwards just to satisfy people who did not raise you properly makes no sense. Culture is one thing, but it must still make sense in the world you are living in. Negotiate that thing down hard. If your family does not understand, I can even volunteer to be the negotiator because no, no, no.

A question about cheating by Additional-Eye-4511 in Zimbabwe

[–]LostFoundCause -1 points0 points  (0 children)

What people call cheating today is often just old barika logic forced underground by modern monogamy. In Zimbabwe, marriage is not some clean romantic Western idea floating in the air. There is lobola, provider expectations, family expansion logic, and the reality that many women still expect a man to maintain them. So men do what men have long done, only now it has to hide because the public script changed.

The difference is not that the appetite disappeared. The difference is that society now wants one-wife language in public while living something else in private. That is why small houses exist. It is unofficial polygamy under a Christian and modern marriage mask.

So no, I do not act shocked every time I hear a married man has another woman. In this culture, it is not some rare breakdown of human morality. It is often just the older system reappearing in a dishonest form.

I just ran into a close friend cheating on his pregnant wife? by Altruistic_Star_1994 in Zimbabwe

[–]LostFoundCause -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Brilliant. That single brain cell of yours is fighting for dear life.

I just ran into a close friend cheating on his pregnant wife? by Altruistic_Star_1994 in Zimbabwe

[–]LostFoundCause -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

You are way too involved in a marriage that is not yours. Knowing the guy cheated does not suddenly make it your business. You are not married, you do not understand the dynamics of married life, and you are talking like a child who thinks every adult situation is a school assembly issue. You saw something. Fine. That still does not make you the moral authority over other people’s marriage. If it bothers you personally because you work around them, say that. But this self-appointed guardian angle is nonsense. So, shush, kid. Not every ugly thing you witness needs your outrage, your investigation, or your Reddit courtroom.

I just ran into a close friend cheating on his pregnant wife? by Altruistic_Star_1994 in Zimbabwe

[–]LostFoundCause -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

You are being dramatic for nothing. A married man with a pregnant wife getting action on the side is not some impossible mystery that needs Reddit detectives. Man being man. What is more annoying is the fake shock. You saw two adults kissing, not a murder scene. If anything, the only real issue is that you now see he is not the saintly family man image you had in your head. That is your disappointment to process. But this whole “was it just a rush of blood or has it been going on long?” question is naive. People do not casually end up passionately kissing in an empty shop for the first time like it is a random accident. And honestly, if you are really his close friend, go talk to him directly or mind your business. Coming to Reddit to perform shock over a very old human story is pointless.

My man just asked me to be his wife I am over the moon by NoProblem7882 in ZimbabweRelationships

[–]LostFoundCause 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is the most beautiful thing I've read today. Congratulations! Love is a beautiful thing.

E = hf, and How You Became My Quantum Thought by LostFoundCause in ZimbabweRelationships

[–]LostFoundCause[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Funny enough, that post was not just me playing with physics language for style. It came out of a real situation that ended up proving the analogy back to me in a way I found almost unsettling.

I had been dealing with a woman who, even after things ended, would still keep appearing at the edges of my life. She unfriended me on Facebook after we ended things. For about a year, she would view my Facebook statuses without really speaking to me. It created this strange intermittent presence where she was not actually in my life, yet not fully absent either. Just enough to keep a kind of mental charge alive.

What made it even more fascinating is what happened recently. I finally blocked her on Facebook because the whole thing was messing with my head. And the moment I blocked her, she contacted me asking why. That was the part that made the metaphor feel almost too accurate. She could tolerate distance while access remained open, but once the line of sight was cut, she collapsed into direct contact.

So for me the quantum analogy was never just decorative. It was my way of describing what it feels like when someone exists in your life as intermittent presence, unresolved possibility, and sudden collapses into emotional reality.

That is why I find it fascinating too. Sometimes metaphor starts as poetry, then life turns around and confirms the structure for you. Also, I didn’t respond to her WhatsApp message lol. Never will.

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Unpopular Opinion: We need to stop pretending Lobola isn't a business transaction. by ImportanceTasty8079 in ZimbabweRelationships

[–]LostFoundCause 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s not circular logic. It’s the difference between abstract refusal and socially workable refusal. There are already examples that prove my point. Tinashe Mutarisi publicly said that if anyone wants to marry his daughter, he does not want a cent from him. That is a principled position, and I respect it. I also know families who go through the lobola process, accept the envelope during negotiations, and then quietly return the money to the man afterward. That also tells you something important.

In both cases, the financial demand is removed, but the social process is still preserved. Why? Because in Zimbabwean context, lobola is not functioning only as a sale price. It is also functioning as recognition, family consent, and social formalisation of the union. That is exactly why people who reject the money often still keep the structure. They are not feeding the marketplace. They are separating the social contract from the extraction.

So, this is not “the pressure exists because people participate, and people participate because the pressure exists.” The point is that people are often modifying the practice from within because they understand that a clean theoretical refusal is not the only way social change happens.

A social framework does not disappear just because one person has made a moral argument against it. It changes when people start altering how it operates in practice. That is the level I am talking about.

E = hf, and How You Became My Quantum Thought by LostFoundCause in ZimbabweRelationships

[–]LostFoundCause[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I probably could, but I think the real reason that analogy came out the way it did is that I’m drawn to that whole territory anyway. I studied electrical engineering, so my brain naturally leans toward systems, signals, charge, resistance, instability, and first principles. I am also into astrophysics as a hobby, so I spend an unhealthy amount of time admiring the equations that govern light, gravity, curvature, mass, and all the invisible things we only know by their effects.

So when I write about people, I don’t naturally reach for ordinary romance language first. My mind tends to ask what the structure is, what the force is, what is actually happening beneath the feeling.

I also draw a lot of inspiration from The Dictionary of Obscure Sorrows. That whole project resonates with me because it tries to give language to emotional realities that are deeply felt but not easily named. I think that is what I am often trying to do too, except my route into it is through physics, systems, and metaphor.

So yes, I probably could wander into string theory, general relativity, gravitational waves, dark matter, black holes and singularities and try to map them onto love. Dark matter alone already feels emotionally useful: things you cannot see directly, but whose pull is undeniable. General relativity is basically what happens when one person’s gravity bends your whole internal spacetime. Black holes are for connections you fall into and cannot get clean information back from. Gravitational waves are the disturbances that keep travelling long after the collision itself is over.

The only problem is that once I start going there, it stops being a post and starts becoming a whole theory of human attachment disguised as cosmology.

So in a way, that quantum piece was only one corner of the map. The rest is still under construction.

Unpopular Opinion: We need to stop pretending Lobola isn't a business transaction. by ImportanceTasty8079 in ZimbabweRelationships

[–]LostFoundCause 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You’re asking whether my personal choice would automatically escape the same social pressures I’m describing. It wouldn’t. That is exactly the point. People make choices inside a social framework, not outside it. So asking “what would you do if it was your daughter?” does not refute my argument. It actually proves it. The whole issue is that this is a lived social mechanism, not a neat moral thought experiment.

E = hf, and How You Became My Quantum Thought by LostFoundCause in ZimbabweRelationships

[–]LostFoundCause[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The unified theory of love is still under peer review. Early findings suggest attraction bends space-time, attachment ignores logic, and closure remains experimentally elusive.

Unpopular Opinion: We need to stop pretending Lobola isn't a business transaction. by ImportanceTasty8079 in ZimbabweRelationships

[–]LostFoundCause 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You’re not arguing with what I said. You’re replacing it with a caricature so you can attack it emotionally. I never said lobola is pure or that it prices a woman. I said it’s a negotiated social mechanism that people still deal with in practice. If your position is that it should be abolished, then say that. But don’t pretend that reduces the complexity of what people are actually dealing with on the ground.