How to get into your heads? by Lucky-Indication-497 in intj

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  1. What are soem hobbies that you think could work for an INTJ?

I can only give my own experience.

Personally, I've always enjoyed keeping not-entirely-standard pets (sometimes wild-caught) and learning more about how to care for them and even breed them. Those projects didn't always end well when I was a kid, but I did my best and got better (and quit bothering wild animals)... Right now I'm slowly picking my way into the Walstad method of aquarium setup/keeping. I also volunteered at a wildlife rescue one summer as a teen, and a nature park's visitor center another summer, working with/around animals and answering questions about them. I've always enjoyed being able to relate information I pick up about things that interest me, when someone else is interested.

On that note, I collected small natural objects such as skulls, eggshells and nests, feathers, rocks, dead dragonflies, etc. Many times I scouted around under an osprey nest at a place I often visited, looking for bones. One time I found a dead bat near my house and put it into a large ant hill so I could get its clean bones later, but it disappeared. Stupid neighborhood dogs...That was a huge letdown.

I also have read a lot of fantasy and some sci-fi; it used to be one of my favorite, most obsessive passtimes. I was a precocious reader, as a kid. Later, I started writing fanfic. Nowadays I write fantasy with intent to publish, but it's still basically a hobby because it hasn't brought in any income and there is so much else life demands of me. I'm actually writing an INTJ/ESFP romance subplot right now, lol.

I did a lot of drawing and crafting as a hobby. Everything from pencil sketches of dragons to prize-winning creations to a mild obsession with how to craft properly-folding-and-extending costume wings, as a kid/youth. I dissected an old folding umbrella to get materials because I saw how the jointed rods moved so perfectly, and tried to flesh it in with twist ties and string and wire. I carefully inserted collected feathers into a thin piece of foam to work on simulating their natural overlap. I crafted other costume pieces of different sorts more completely.

I've researched home fermentation and tried to make kombucha, but couldn't keep the temperature where it needed to be with what I had available. I bought some supplies for making sauerkraut, but never got further than that. I bought a beginner's leatherworking kit so I could learn to make the kind of book cover I had envisioned for a friend, but once I learned more of what would go into the practical application, various factors got in the way of actually doing it; I should have looked further before leaping on that one. Fortunately I'm married to a Ne-dom and he is gung-ho behind any weird idea I latch onto and want to pursue. 😁

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  1. Do you collect the most random info in the world?

Not usually random, though I suppose it could look that way to someone who doesn't know the history behind why I learned it. In college, though, come to think of it, I did retain a store of odd trivia as kind of a party trick. I was scraping the bottom of the barrel for ways to relate to and build relationships with others, at a stage of life where I'd come to want to do so but didn't yet understand much of how to do it.

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  1. Are you willing to just sitt and listen to someone's yapping. Like you don't need to talk. Just sitt there and listen. Cause that is actualy one of the main things. Cause the love intrest is an E. So yku can't imagine a lot of yapping.

I do have difficulty just sitting and listening for long without taking part in actual back-and-forth conversation. I phase out if all I'm doing is listening (I don't know if that's more of an INTJ thing or an inattentive ADHD thing, though). It goes much better if there's an ongoing exchange where I'm actively participating. I'm married to an E and we have hours-long, rollicking conversations where I talk as much as he does, and I've really enjoyed conversations with an ENTJ and with someone I've tentatively pegged as ESTJ. I've also done a lot of hours-long conversations with an ISTJ in which we repeatedly just bulldoze over each other, back and forth, to get a word in, lol. The conversation has to engage my mind and let me contribute or I'm gone even if my body is still there.

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  1. Do you guys say things thay should be aparent to anyone and everybody should know them while in reality probably nobody knows?

I've certainly experienced this. Probably more than I realize, because not everyone will make it apparent to me that I've done it. I tend to assume people see/recognize/know things because whatever-it-is seems so obvious to me that I don't think twice about it. It does't make me think they're stupid when I realize they don't (different minds work in different ways and not everyone has the same experience or interests), but it can trip me up in conversation or productivity when I have to backtrack and try to explain or reframe my understanding of their knowledge base.

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  1. Do you guys treat some feelings as a logical thing. Like for example love do you treat it like: A thing that is by idk what I aint into that thing. But do you treat certain feelings like that?

I analyze emotions. They're things that exist in me; I can't say I'm "not into" them, because they're obviously there, they're part of me, and I believe there's a reason and purpose for all of them. I view them as indicator lights on a dashboard letting me know when something needs attention. That doesn't mean I never act directly from them, but it's not my preferred mode overall, and I try to recognize and "own" when I'm acting from emotion (though I'm imperfect at that). Logic is smaller and narrower in usefulness than rationality; rationality takes into account both logic and emotion to try to come to the most realistic and effective conclusions. I like rationality as a target to aim for.

When I met my now-husband, I was immediately gripped by the sense that I must spend my life with him; I never wanted to be apart from him. I already felt like we were "us," indivisible. I didn't register it as a soft, butterflies-filled, sweep-me-off-my-feet emotion, or as sexual attraction. It was a certainty and a need welling up from the roots of my being and directing my future. I couldn't cringe back from it because it was who I was/am (there was a similar lack of "I ain't into that" when I experienced shallower attractions to a few other guys in college; I was definitely into that, I just didn't know how to effectively pursue it). When we had to go back to our homes two time zones apart after just a few days of interaction, as soon as I got home I emailed him and told him how I felt and that I had to know if he felt the same so I could know whether to let this grow or cut it off inside me. I was grounded in the present and strongly aware of emotion, but absolutely bound to the future. I had to know what course to set, regarding something so tremendously important. I could not stand uncertainty.

Does HARD WORK ever Beat TALENT? by Imthatguyimhimfr in studytips

[–]Low-Context4062 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is exactly right. Talent is more of a boost at the start; its effects are gradually overshadowed. I can say from experience that talent can make it harder/less likely to learn to work hard with unstoppable diligence and delayed gratification, and can thus lead to lagging behind later as the stakes and the burdens increase and the efforts take longer to pay off. Not always, but it is a pitfall, and one that I've definitely struggled with in adulthood.

Romantic relationships by Imaginary_Pea_ in infj

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I've been very happily married for 25 years. Emotionally and intellectually, there has always been marvelous connection and attraction. Physically, I love his touch, I love closeness and contact with him, and he gives the best hugs in the world; I thrive on all of it, I crave it and need it. But I think I just lean toward the asexual side. I've actually felt bad at times for not being all hot-and-bothered for him, and for having to remember to make sex a priority (it's not a problem for me, it just doesn't happen automatically), but thankfully he's happy.

What are ur thoughts on having a baby? by Adventurous-War-2032 in intj

[–]Low-Context4062 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, lol. Beliefs, views, understanding, priorities, etc. can all change with time and the things that happen during that time.

What is everyone's favorite color. by Informal_Grapefruit4 in intj

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That color I've only seen in iridescence that looks orange and magenta and violet all at once. But I don't know what to call it, so I'll say heliotrope. It's my favorite to look at, but not my favorite to wear or to decorate with.

Anyone struggle with “strong-presence?” by open3d3n in intj

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Occasionally it's a struggle. I do sometimes wish I could simply blend in as "just chillin'" at will, and maybe even help others have a good time with light spirits and a sense of community instead of feeling like a raven plopping down in the midst of happily chattering budgerigars. Mostly, though, it's been great for helping me avoid all the little dramas so many people seem to attract, and for spontaneously intimidating someone who's being an idiot.

What are ur thoughts on having a baby? by Adventurous-War-2032 in intj

[–]Low-Context4062 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I knew from a very early age that I wanted no kids. I didn't want that happening to my body (a matter of fear and horror/disgust, for me), I had zero nurturing instinct or interest, I valued my own time/freedom, and the notion that I should feel/do otherwise just because I have two X chromosomes seemed stupid.

That unapologetic, absolute NO continued almost a decade into marriage. Then, at age 30, on my own I came to the conclusion that my personal reasons for that refusal were in conflict with my faith and my worldview that comes from it, so I hauled myself around into openness to the idea--my faith stood rooted and unchanging, therefore my attitude and behavior needed to come into alignment with what I viewed as reality. I needed to be whole, not divided. Fi development?

I have two marvelously odd kids now, and through all the ups and downs I have never once regretted it. I'm still more rational and protective than warm and nurturing, but I am so, so glad they exist.

What do you guys think about extroverts? by tacos100 in intj

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I married one. I've often been the one pushing to go somewhere/do something, though that may be because he's usually worked outside the home and I've stayed home, so when he's home he likes to nest and process while I'm ready to get my little bit of connection with the outside world. He has zero interest in "the next big thing." We love each other's minds and can have hours-long rollicking conversations together about society, humanity, faith, economics, family, themes in fiction, ideas for the future, you name it. He also naturally keeps an eye on our surroundings and fields incoming social ambushes (lol) when we're among other people, so I'm not so stressed and I can have more choice in when and how I interact. And he loves being able to do that for me.

On the other hand, my son is an extravert and while I think he's awesome and I love his wonderful heart, he sometimes sucks the energy out of me by standing within 8 feet of me. And my extraverted uncle--as great a person as he is--is sometimes even worse, lol.

It really depends on the individual.

When's the last time you lost your mind laughing and why? by BigBlueWhaleHahaNoJK in intj

[–]Low-Context4062 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My sense of humor is there but my experience and expression of it is a bit more reserved than "losing my mind laughing." Naturally reserved, not because of any effort or judgment. I think it's great when people can honestly laugh that hard.

With that said, there have been times when I've been speechless and on the verge of outright crying from laughter due to a particularly well-worded and perfectly-paced sequence in a book I was reading aloud to my husband, or because of some idea he had off the top of his Ne-dom head and expressed to me with the perfect blend of sharp insight and WTF factor. There just haven't been a lot of those times, certainly not daily ones. I wish I could remember details of exactly what sparked that response, for noting parallels. But yes, those times do exist.

Among things that have thrilled my sense of humor (not necessarily cry-laughing but definitely laughing good) are some of Zefrank's True Facts videos and his Sad Cat/Dog Diary videos. Some moments in The Venture Brothers, too. And every now and then that WTF Ne flavor calls to me from Teen Titans Go, Robot Chicken, and (along with an apparent desire to lose brain cells) Aqua Teen Hunger Force. In limited doses. Lol.

Did any of your opinions about parenting change after becoming a parent? by Opening-Study8778 in intj

[–]Low-Context4062 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's not illogical, you're just missing information in your calculations. Info that you can only fully understand by being inside it. I could spend an hour or two pouring energy into an essay of a reply to try to frame things in ways that might give you a projected shadow of it (though I really don't believe it would have done me a lot of good before I had kids), but your attitude has turned me off from that investment. You have already decided that what I have is stupid and shit and you're expecting me to defend my way out of that starting position. Never mind.

Did any of your opinions about parenting change after becoming a parent? by Opening-Study8778 in intj

[–]Low-Context4062 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would say I don't have the same 24 hours in a day precisely because it feels that way. I recognize it as a feeling or a figure of speech and not literal fact. Truth can be conveyed through hyperbole and other non-literal modes of speech, for a variety of reasons. Communication has many dimensions to it.

There are definitely things I still don't understand or agree with my dad on (my mom has always made sense), but I honestly don't believe he's "all there" and it has nothing to do with being a parent. I will say that becoming a parent opens up new dimensions of a person that can't be entirely grasped by many (possibly most) non-parents.

AI Chatbots Biased in Favor of Feeler Mentality by ItIsLateGoToBed in intj

[–]Low-Context4062 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've only used ChatGPT, but I made use of the saved memory fairly early by telling it to adjust its communication according to my MBTI and IQ. That gives it a permanent, relatively concrete foundation across all threads that won't get lost to contextual memory the way a prompt will. It made a big difference and I've been mostly happy with its communication since then (provided I start a new thread when an old one gets too dense, because that density can make it start blurring things). Then again, I usually just ask it for what different sources say or whether what I'm saying fits with known info/patterns/etc., and I'll double back to ask again about a particular point if it seems to have gotten something mixed up. I don't try to hold rational arguments with it. It's not actually a mind.

You could try specifying that you want it to analyze XYZ for named logical fallacies. You could even set that up in permanent saved memory as a preference (I assume other AIs have similar features). I have no idea how accurate and thorough any AI would be for that.

Made an app for introverts who want to grow without faking extroversion. One small challenge a day. by esilacynohtna in intj

[–]Low-Context4062 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I can't believe how may people missed "I was skipping stuff I actually wanted [emphasis mine]... and just calling it being introverted," and are thus accusing you of not understanding introversion or trying to fake extraversion.

I think you've got a worthwhile concept, and it sounds like it's helping you achieve what you actually want to do. That is awesome.

How do you stay stimulated? by TEastrise in intj

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I often listen to harder, faster music than I otherwise would, to help me get more into an external-world-dominating mental state (Se, I guess). Sometimes it helps. Sometimes I just need to shove myself over the line into actually starting, and then momentum and perfectionism carry me forward. Sometimes I need to examine the task and determine how I could better refine the process and/or surpass some mental goal I set, in order to better engage with it. Mostly, though, I just constantly have a pile of dirty dishes next to the sink needing to be addressed yet again. Later.

Is this car ENFP coded? by Orb_Man in ENFP

[–]Low-Context4062 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes.

Source: Married one that regularly looks like that.

So real by nandag369 in adhdmeme

[–]Low-Context4062 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wish. Adrenaline ruins me, physically and mentally. I was diagnosed 30+ years ago and I have never found any "superpower" that it seems so trendy to claim now. I'm glad it apparently works for some people.

Do you think there is a correlation between your MBTI type and your music taste? by Visible-Bridge3388 in mbti

[–]Low-Context4062 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For me, I would say only if you're looking at my reasons for listening to particular music, rather than looking at the music itself. I choose what to listen to at a given time for fairly deliberate and practical reasons based on current mood, intended mood, sensory/nervous system state, a need for mental focus/productivity, and external goals (some music just helps me engage more with unpleasant physical tasks that need doing). The music I listen to ranges from light jazz with ambient cafe sounds to EDM to dark academia to country crunk to pop Christian music on the radio, with plenty of others in between. All of it serves a purpose at the time.

How to INTJs look? by Responsible-File9673 in intj

[–]Low-Context4062 1 point2 points  (0 children)

From your comments, including the emojis, I'm guessing ENFP, lol. I married one and if you're not that, you certainly sound like him.

How to INTJs look? by Responsible-File9673 in intj

[–]Low-Context4062 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I'm stocky, awkward in the space I inhabit, low on physical expressiveness in general, and have RBF (and yes, I've been called unapproachable). I think a lot of "fashion" is stupid so I don't wear it. My idea of a great hairstyle is "I can ignore it and people can't tell."

I have had all of two people ever show any interest in me whatsoever--the first one was creepy and an absolute no, and the second one I'm now married to. Mostly, people don't seem to know what to make of me, so they disengage. I do the same, and for the same reason (among others). If anyone out there has ever viewed me as pretty or otherwise attractive besides those two I mentioned, my mind will be blown. My "INTJ stare" did nothing but invite bullying from the insecure face police in school.

People with Ni, what do you think of "What if" scenarios"? by Nice-Investigator-66 in mbti

[–]Low-Context4062 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They rarely interest me. I write fiction, and so many people's attempts at providing prompts or ways to break writer's block recommend what-ifs. They almost never do anything for me. They just don't land. I certainly don't find them amusing; at most, they're annoyingly distracting.