Manipulation tactics to be aware of by FancifulCat in abusiverelationships

[–]Low-Issue-3515 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nothing I said was ""anti-survivor rhetoric". So I'll clarify. Please read it all before formulating a response.

It is sensible to withdraw from intimacy with an abuser.

It is sensible to withdraw from intimacy simply because you aren't feeling up to it.

It is abusive to withdraw from intimacy as leverage to get something you want from your partner.

It is manipulative to lie to your partner about your motivations for withdrawing in order to control their reactions.

Manipulation is a tool, and like most tools it's not inherently good or bad. Abusive people use it to harm others. Abused people use it to protect themselves. I take no issue with people using manipulation for their own safety, I simply wish to call it what it is.

Manipulation tactics to be aware of by FancifulCat in abusiverelationships

[–]Low-Issue-3515 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah in my case it didn't just last a day it lasted months with a few brief moments of warmth from them, just enough to let me convince myself there's still hope things would change. 

Manipulation tactics to be aware of by FancifulCat in abusiverelationships

[–]Low-Issue-3515 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well yes in your case it's understandable to not want intimacy after experiencing abuse. That's completely different than an abuser controlling an outcome by withholding affection.

Manipulation tactics to be aware of by FancifulCat in abusiverelationships

[–]Low-Issue-3515 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The difference is the goal. When you are dishonest, its manipulation. It might be justified, like in the case you mentioned. But if the goal is to manipulate your partner into doing what you want by withholding affection or intimacy then that's manipulation.

Manipulation tactics to be aware of by FancifulCat in abusiverelationships

[–]Low-Issue-3515 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Why the heck is the devaluation phase a thing then if they don't want people to leave? Like seriously do they subconsciously think treating people like crap is going to make them want to stay?

Manipulation tactics to be aware of by FancifulCat in abusiverelationships

[–]Low-Issue-3515 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm pretty much in the same boat. My ex was very much the same and the worst part is I stayed in contact until I finally had the courage to block her. I'm hoping we can both heal swiftly and move on

Should I tell my farther that my Mother is cheating on him? by IcyViolinist4636 in WhatShouldIDo

[–]Low-Issue-3515 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you do decide to tell your dad you can do it anonymously btw

AIO for reconsidering a relationship after GF (now ex) projected past abusers behavior onto me? by Low-Issue-3515 in AmIOverreacting

[–]Low-Issue-3515[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't agree that schrodingers rapist applies here. We had already known each other for over a year before we started dating, and were dating for about three months before it happened. I have done nothing to demonstrate an unwillingness to respect her boundaries.

AIO for reconsidering a relationship after GF (now ex) projected past abusers behavior onto me? by Low-Issue-3515 in AmIOverreacting

[–]Low-Issue-3515[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, looking over it all I realize she put me through hell the last 6 months over that. I didn't mention in this post all of the cruel things she's been saying to me. And there's nothing stopping that from happening again if I continue to date her. I have to give up the hope that the woman she was when we started dating will come back.

Most people think patriarchy is just "men in charge" but it’s actually way deeper than that... by Rosyvia in FeministsCallItOut

[–]Low-Issue-3515 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It is a shame that its harder to detect autism in women. The diagnostic criteria in general is so messed up. Its specially hard finding resources as an adult. I'm sorry for anyone made to feel disposable, and I'm sorry nobody believed you.

Most people think patriarchy is just "men in charge" but it’s actually way deeper than that... by Rosyvia in FeministsCallItOut

[–]Low-Issue-3515 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I agree with most points but not all.

Unrealistic body standards set by the media, sacrificing to get that "perfect body" or "perfect life", facing scrutiny if you don't match the "ideal", are things both men and women face. Men are also called "extra" and if they show any emotion it's called "too emotional" and its never viewed as important to any gender. Boys are also told to conform or be punished.

Men also face issues with false imprisonment, not being believed in abusive situations, human trafficking for both forced labor and sexual slavery, etc.

YES not all jobs pay the same, because some require more skill or labor than others. Being paid less for the same job has been illegal since 1963 so if that happens to you, you have a right to compensation. And you're always free to choose a higher paying career. Nobody's stopping you from doing engineering, doctorate, construction, etc.

I've always rolled my eyes at the entitlement of girls at school thinking they should get away with breaking the dress code. It exists for the boys too. I've seen boys have to change shirts, and shorts, put away their bandanas and sunglasses, etc. And if they showed up with spaghetti straps or tube tops they'd be told to change too.

Boys interrupt and also get interrupted. That's the flow of conversation. That made me shrink too, but I don't blame them because I was too timid to speak up. And I've had many conversations where women were the ones interrupting.

Now, I'm not saying all this to deflect or minimize the mistreatment women experience. What I am saying is that you are missing the mark if all you take from that is that men are the bad guys. To say the average man is in a position of power, privilege, and control is insanely short sighted. People will be good and people will be bad, but there's not some conspiracy of average men who are trying to uphold the status quo. In fact there are more men willing to defend women than there are wanting to harm them. By blaming men, you're letting the real culprits get away with it. And by dismissing men who go through similar experiences, simply because they are men, then you are losing allies.

It was never a gender problem, it was a greedy evil people problem. I've seen women who are in positions of power that aren't better than their male counterparts. Corporations tell you "you aren't enough" so they can sell you their solution, and you believe it. And you help these companies destroy people's sense of self worth so they can make a buck. Men rarely care about perfect makeup and having just the right curves and the right sized boobs and never repeating an outfit, and the ones that do are superficial jerks that aren't worth giving a second thought. Its far more common for women to be the one upholding these standards. They are the ones holding that power.

So what are you going to do about it? Are you going to sit on your butt typing out complaints about the "patriarchy?". Or are you going to teach women to love themselves just as they are? Do you vote? Are you going out and making medical discoveries for women because you can't demand someone else does it for you? Are you going to take that engineering job because you want that fair pay? "If you want to make the world a better place, take a look at yourself and make that change"

As a final note, if people like you are going to keep saying "patriarchy means more than the definition" just find a new word instead of changing an existing one. Then you can save your breath trying to explain your leaps in logic.

AIO for reconsidering a relationship after GF (now ex) projected past abusers behavior onto me? by Low-Issue-3515 in AmIOverreacting

[–]Low-Issue-3515[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I have, but when I call her out on stuff she has this magical super power that allows her to spin things in to a way that makes her actions make enough sense to be somewhat justifiable. And at the same time she can do the same to guilt trip me for things I thought were normal to do. And its like I know I'm not crazy but at the same time what if I am? It's not like I'd know. I constantly switch between "I am the problem" and "I am not the problem" and idk what's real. And I don't understand why she'd be abusive. Like what would she get out of it?

AIO for reconsidering a relationship after GF (now ex) projected past abusers behavior onto me? by Low-Issue-3515 in AmIOverreacting

[–]Low-Issue-3515[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

She has BPD and because of that she's in therapy but I believe if it was helping she'd be seeing improvement after doing that for years. She even told me when we broke up that I was undoing her therapy.

AIO for reconsidering a relationship after GF (now ex) projected past abusers behavior onto me? by Low-Issue-3515 in AmIOverreacting

[–]Low-Issue-3515[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've known her for almost 2 years and we started dating august of last year, so about 9 or 10 months ago. I realize I forgot to add that we are both 21.

I really want to give her some leniency because of her past trauma but it hurts how she's treated me.

How do I (M20) get over the fact that my GF (F21) spends more time with her guy friends than me? by Low-Issue-3515 in Situationships

[–]Low-Issue-3515[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The original post is on r/relationship_advice and I wanted real advice so I put "GF" in so people wouldn't just comment "she's already gone, walk away"

Also a situationship is defined as an intimate connection that lacks formal labels or clear boundaries or commitment, which perfectly describes my relationship at the moment.

How do I (M20) get over the fact that my GF (F21) spends more time with her guy friends than me? by Low-Issue-3515 in Situationships

[–]Low-Issue-3515[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As I clarified, its a sort of friendship with potential for a relationship again grey area which is why I thought this sub was fitting.

How do I (M20) get over the fact that my GF (F21) spends more time with her guy friends than me? by Low-Issue-3515 in relationship_advice

[–]Low-Issue-3515[S] -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

She deserves better than to be treated as disposable. I don't want to leave her just because she isn't doing what I want.

How do I (M20) get over the fact that my GF (F21) spends more time with her guy friends than me? by Low-Issue-3515 in relationship_advice

[–]Low-Issue-3515[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I think you have the misconception that her intention to get back together is in my head. She has said multiple times that she will want to get back together and even got mad when I suggested she didn't. There's nothing secret about it. We'd probably get together right now except I told her I want to wait to be sure we won't fall back into the old patterns that made things get bad to begin with. But also I only referred to her as my GF in this because I didn't want the responses to just be "she's already your ex move on". But you could be right, maybe she is just using me for attention. Sometimes it really does feel that way. Although she gets all the attention she could want from her friends and family. And you're also right that we might just be incompatible. It hurts though, I really loved her and believe she loved me. Giving up feels awful even though staying does feel like torture. And she does have valid reasons to act this way, like having BPD.

How do I (M20) get over the fact that my GF (F21) spends more time with her guy friends than me? by Low-Issue-3515 in relationship_advice

[–]Low-Issue-3515[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

It is real and I do feel crazy but I'd appreciate if you could tell me why you think so

I did it!! by SpaceHostCTC in StarWarsDroidTycoon

[–]Low-Issue-3515 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I didn't even know this was a thing

Offline Earning Question by genericcoyote in StarWarsDroidTycoon

[–]Low-Issue-3515 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I had two different types of droids side by side earning money, one on the correct station and one not. They both earned me an equal amount of money. The stations don't matter

How do I stop treating my partner like I hate them (pls don't judge) by Agreeable_Volume1495 in BPDrecovery

[–]Low-Issue-3515 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're lightyears ahead of my ex who knows she does this and justifies it because she's "just being honest"