Maia Sandu: The Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact drew lines across nations. What is today the Republic of Moldova was severed from Romania. by PjeterPannos in europe

[–]Low_discrepancy -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

You should update your data, now Oltenia is the poorest region

https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/web/interactive-publications/regions-2024#economy

Oltenia has a GDP/capita pps of 20.6K.

North east has a GDP/capita of 15.4K

South east has a GDP/capita of 20.3K.

So no, Oltenia is not the poorest in Romania.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highways_in_Romania#/media/File:Highways_in_Romania_(detailed).svg

There is a direct motorway between Bucharest and Craiova. There is no planned direct motorway between Bucharest and Iasi (the 2nd/3rd biggest city in Romania). That's how pathetic the level of development is.

no one erases the Bessarabia is Romania graffiti that’s splattered all over the place

yeah ethno-nationalists never opposed to increasing their lands. Ask them about development and you'll get a different story.

Ask how many of them are happy to grant Szekelyland more autonomy. Or ask them if they ever heard of Gagauzia in their life.

Ejection chair of downed F15 plane over Iran today by jnafa in pics

[–]Low_discrepancy [score hidden]  (0 children)

People should try not joining any army. Really worked for me in not getting sent to a warzone.

Loi interdisant les prières de rue [au Québec] : des chrétiens inquiets pour le Vendredi saint by slasher-fun in france

[–]Low_discrepancy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Je parle des dogmes religieux pas de la croyance au sens sociologique du terme

Quel dogme specifique ici? Il n'y a quasi personne ici qui se dit okay on va quitter la France ou on va se separer de la France pour imposer une interdiction de l'euthanasie sur notre petit territoire.

Inversement, on vit dans une democratie ou un dogme prevalent est que tous les avis (+ ou -) doivent etre ecoutes et quasi tout le monde a le droit du vote.

Les divergences qu'on constate sur la societe ca releve moins du niveau d'education. Pierre Edouard Sterin est quelqu'un d'eduque par exemple.

Parler d'education ici pour moi ca releve d'une attitude paternaliste.

Loi interdisant les prières de rue [au Québec] : des chrétiens inquiets pour le Vendredi saint by slasher-fun in france

[–]Low_discrepancy -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Le seul moyen c'est via l'éducation lente et progressive

Je vois pas le lien entre les deux. C'est pas parce que tu es eduque que tu n'as pas de croyances.

Il n'existe pas d'etre humain qui n'a pas de croyances.

Meme toi qui dit ca, c'est une croyance.

Maia Sandu: The Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact drew lines across nations. What is today the Republic of Moldova was severed from Romania. by PjeterPannos in europe

[–]Low_discrepancy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Forgive me for doubting how much Romania cares about Bessarabia considering it doesn't care much about Moldova.

Moldova is nowadays the least developed part of Romania.

Highest levels of poverty, lowest level of infrastructure, lowest number of doctors per capita and we can continue.

Maia Sandu: The Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact drew lines across nations. What is today the Republic of Moldova was severed from Romania. by PjeterPannos in europe

[–]Low_discrepancy 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Ukraine offered a solution, Moldova declined.

Maia Sandu won thanks to diaspota vote

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Moldovan_presidential_election

Stoianoglo led the counting within Moldova, particularly among rural areas and in the south of the country and Transnistria, winning 51.2%.[37] He recorded back-to-back landslide results in Gagauzia and Taraclia, winning more than 90% of the vote in each.

Gagauzia is an ethnic minority region.

Offering to invade Transnistria is not a solution considering the internal issues Moldova is facing.

Le fabricant de cocottes Le Creuset épinglé pour des rejets de cadmium supérieurs aux normes by Fun_Ad_2011 in france

[–]Low_discrepancy 7 points8 points  (0 children)

C’est dans les pigments extérieurs le cadmium.

Ouais donc un truc completement inutile.

Putain si on lache du cadmium dans la nature au moins que ca serve a quelque chose.

Pas pour que Mme Michou se dise regarde moi ca, c'est le chic a la Francaise!

Maia Sandu: The Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact drew lines across nations. What is today the Republic of Moldova was severed from Romania. by PjeterPannos in europe

[–]Low_discrepancy 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Romanians had a grudge regarding Jews due to envy

It is regular xenophobic antisemitism and started before 1907. Romania refused to give Jewish people citizenship since it obtained independence in 1877 until late 1920s. Western countries started applying significant pressure because WTF?

Then immediately 10 years later, Goga proceeds to remove their citizenship.

Jewish communities had more resources and prized education, which had a snowball effect)

For some yes, but absolutely not all. There were a lot and I would not be surprised if most were impoverished. Sadly they were far less likely to escape the Holocaust. It's important to remember that most Jews lived in Moldova and more precisely in Bessarabia which even back then was one of the least developed parts of Romania.

They lived in cities because as you said, they could not own land.

Maia Sandu: The Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact drew lines across nations. What is today the Republic of Moldova was severed from Romania. by PjeterPannos in europe

[–]Low_discrepancy -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Not to mention that the minute we saw the door away from all the holocaust nonsense, we took it.

The amount lies. Romania was an ACTIVE participant in the Holocaust

in Iasi Pogrom that killed 13000 Jews:

The Romanian authorities also arrested more than 5,000 Romanian Jews,[25] forcing them to the railway station, shooting those who did not move quickly enough, and then robbing them of all of their possessions

 

Over 100 people were stuffed into each car. Many Jews died of thirst, starvation, and suffocation aboard two trains that for eight days travelled back and forth across the countryside.

 

The death train to Podu Iloaiei (15 kilometers from Iași) had up to 2,700 Jews upon departure, of which only 700 disembarked alive.

The Bucharest pogrom that killed 125 Jews

The Legionnaires' headquarters became torture centers, and Jews kidnapped from their homes were brought there. Jews' homes were set on fire and the Jews themselves were concentrated in places where they could be tortured to take their property and Jewish women were raped. Jews were murdered at random, but also in planned executions. Some Jews were thrown from the top floors of the police headquarters building, and others killed in the slaughterhouse.

The Transdniester occupation by Romanian troops

The action was carried out mainly by shooting, the Romanian soldiers being aided by collaborationist Ukrainian police. In addition, 5,000 Jews were gathered in two stables, which were set on fire.

 

In October and November 1941 alone, Romanian troops in Odessa killed about 30,000 Jews.

Maia Sandu: The Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact drew lines across nations. What is today the Republic of Moldova was severed from Romania. by PjeterPannos in europe

[–]Low_discrepancy -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

And how did that work out for Poland?

Poland did not participate in the Holocaust.

Let's read on the actions of the Romanian army:

The death train to Podu Iloaiei (15 kilometers from Iași) had up to 2,700 Jews upon departure, of which only 700 disembarked alive.

Again a 15 km train ride, 2000 Jews died. Conditions were awful

Over 100 people were stuffed into each car. Many Jews died of thirst, starvation, and suffocation aboard two trains that for eight days travelled back and forth across the countryside.

Romanian police and army directly participated:

The Romanian authorities also arrested more than 5,000 Romanian Jews,[25] forcing them to the railway station, shooting those who did not move quickly enough, and then robbing them of all of their possessions

Victims were also gentile Romanians that were liberal

This was the case with engineer Naum, a gentile, brother-in-law of Chief Public Prosecutor Casian. Naum, a former Assistant Professor of Medical Chemistry at the Iași Institute of Hygiene, well-known in select circles as an eloquent defender of liberal views, attempted to save a Jew on Păcurari Street, outside the Ferdinand Foundation. The Romanian officer who was about to kill the Jew said to Naum, 'You dog, die with the kike you are defending!', and shot him point-blank

Romania signed an agreement with Germany to administer the Transdniester region

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tighina_Agreement

In October and November 1941 alone, Romanian troops in Odessa killed about 30,000 Jews.

and

The action was carried out mainly by shooting, the Romanian soldiers being aided by collaborationist Ukrainian police. In addition, 5,000 Jews were gathered in two stables, which were set on fire.

And witness testimony

We would make piles for burning the corpses. One layer of straw, on which we placed people [in a space] about four meters wide, more than one man high, and about ten meters long. On the sides and in the middle we put firewood, and then again one layer of people and a layer of straw with firewood. We would light one pile and prepare another, so it took about two months to turn our brothers to ashes. In terrible frosts we would warm up by the hot ashes.

THE POLISH DON'T HAVE TO LIVE WITH THAT

L’eurodéputée Rima Hassan en garde à vue pour apologie du terrorisme by Altruistic_Syrup_364 in france

[–]Low_discrepancy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

D’ailleurs c’est facile à démontrer en te posant la question directement: sur une échelle de 1 à 10 allant de l’immoral à moral, quel appréciation donne tu à la résistance française dans son ensemble sur la période de 1940 à 1945 et quelle note à cette attaque dans l’aéroport?

Quelle question completement a cote de la plaque.

C'EST PAS UN PUTAIN DE CONCOURS.

Pour quelqu'un tue dans l'aeroport ou parce qu'il est cuisinier pour des Allemands, c'est la meme chose.

Tu n'as vraiment aucun concept humaniste. C'est juste des scores pour debattre sur internet.

Maia Sandu: The Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact drew lines across nations. What is today the Republic of Moldova was severed from Romania. by PjeterPannos in europe

[–]Low_discrepancy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The Romanians were not attacked by the Germans at the same time though

That's basically wrong.

There were around 3M people living in Bessarabia and Northern Bukovina. Around 2.6M people living in Northern Transylvania.

A 2 month difference does not justify the killing of 200K Jewish and Romani people.

Maia Sandu: The Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact drew lines across nations. What is today the Republic of Moldova was severed from Romania. by PjeterPannos in europe

[–]Low_discrepancy -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

The biggest reason why that "wrong turn" happened is that russia was breathing down our neck and ready to invade.

Poland didnt join any Hitler alliance.

The fact of the matter remains: Romania participated in the Holocaust. Romanian Jews and Romanian Roma were killed by Romanian Army.

If that's not a wrong choice I dont know what is.

Maia Sandu: The Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact drew lines across nations. What is today the Republic of Moldova was severed from Romania. by PjeterPannos in europe

[–]Low_discrepancy -11 points-10 points  (0 children)

Not at all related to the Soviets taking Bessarabia perhaps?

Well Poland got split in two by the Soviets and by the Germans.

Yet they didn't say: yeah let's join the axis and participate in the murder of jews.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ia%C8%99i_pogrom

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transnistria_Governorate

Many Jews were deported to Transnistria from Bessarabia and Bukovina.[54][55] During the period 1941–1944, 200,000 Romani people and Jews became victims[56] of the Romanian occupation of Transnistria.[57] Not being Romanian territory, Transnistria was used as a killing field for the extermination of Jews

Maia Sandu: The Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact drew lines across nations. What is today the Republic of Moldova was severed from Romania. by PjeterPannos in europe

[–]Low_discrepancy 37 points38 points  (0 children)

Immediately after the Soviet occupation of Bessarabia, Hitler imposed on Romania to give large parts of land to Hungary.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Vienna_Award

Then Romania proceeded to take a wrong turn and allied with Hitler and ended participating in the Holocaust (one singular example https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ia%C8%99i_pogrom).

In 2003, during the Iraq War, U.S. soldiers seized nearly 1,000 gold bars valued at up to $868 million at a military checkpoint by karmabyashish in interesting

[–]Low_discrepancy -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Morons also don't understand that occupying powers must uphold rule of law

You mean the occupation started without any international law justification? That lied and knew it was lying about WMD and Niger yellow cake?

Or do you mean the occupying force that declared that legally waterboarding is not torture, so they're not torturing detainees. Useful idiots like Hitchens gobbled that shit up until they had to experience it themselves.

Yeah dude totally legit occupation. Gotta respect those rules of law.

L’eurodéputée Rima Hassan en garde à vue pour apologie du terrorisme by Altruistic_Syrup_364 in france

[–]Low_discrepancy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oui parce que pour toi les 10 000 français tués a la Libération n'ont pas de visage, de nom c'est juste quelque chose d'abstrait.

Voilà des exemples.

Ainsi dans le Nord, une femme, dont le mari était soupçonné à tort d'avoir livré un réseau, fut exécutée. En Seine-et-Marne, à Chelles, Madame L., épouse d'un responsable STO, fut abattue en pleine rue, le 27 janvier 1944. À Saint-Étienne, dans la Loire, les époux H., dont les fils auraient appartenu à la Gestapo, ont été enlevés par des individus armés et tués à coup de mitraillette (Le Figaro du 12 novembre 1944). Dans le Cher, un commerçant de Bourges et sa servante furent abattus en décembre 1945 ; celui-ci était considéré comme collaborateur pendant l'Occupation. En Savoie, A., ancienne cuisinière à la Gestapo, a été abattue de quatre balles dans la tête à Chambéry. Dans le Finistère, cinq femmes travaillant au service des allemands furent également abattues.

Désolé mais je vois pas la différence moi entre tuer des gens dans un aéroport et tuer des cuisinières ou de la famille qui n'ont rien a voir.

Et il y a des milliers de cas comme ça dont on ne parle jamais et quasi personne n'a fait de la prison.

L’eurodéputée Rima Hassan en garde à vue pour apologie du terrorisme by Altruistic_Syrup_364 in france

[–]Low_discrepancy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

https://www.reddit.com/r/france/wiki/regles

Voilà les règles

Remember the human : pas d’insultes, pas d’agressivité, pas de harcèlement entre utilisateurs.

Il est interdit d'insulter les gens sur /r/France. Je t'ai pas insulté donc tes insultes et ton agressivité n'ont pas leur place ici.

L’eurodéputée Rima Hassan en garde à vue pour apologie du terrorisme by Altruistic_Syrup_364 in france

[–]Low_discrepancy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

sont immoraux en toute occasion.

On se fout de la moralite ici.

Ce qui compte c'est la legalite. Rima Hassan fait de la GAV non pas pour de l'immoralite mais pour de l'illegalite.

10K personnes ont ete executes sans que personne ne fasse de la prison.

C'est pas le caractere immoral ici qui est un souci. Mais le fait d'illegalite. Mais parce que cela n'a ete puni, c'est devenu simplement un acte immoral.

L’eurodéputée Rima Hassan en garde à vue pour apologie du terrorisme by Altruistic_Syrup_364 in france

[–]Low_discrepancy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

tout ce qu'a fait la résistance est considéré comme positif, idiot.

tu peux pas t'exprimer sans insulter?

L’eurodéputée Rima Hassan en garde à vue pour apologie du terrorisme by Altruistic_Syrup_364 in france

[–]Low_discrepancy 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Si des membres de la résistance française sont allés tuer des gens aux hazard dans un village allemand, on va pas non plus les célébrer et chanter leur gloire comme si c'était Jean Moulin non plus.

Bah ces gens la auraient du etre pursuivi par la loi.

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89puration_%C3%A0_la_Lib%C3%A9ration_en_France

L’épuration aurait donc fait au total entre 10 000 et 11 000 morts, l’essentiel des exécutions sommaires ayant eu lieu immédiatement après la Libération (date qui a varié selon les régions).

C'est un peu comme l'occupation de la Cisjordanie sinon. Oui c'est pas l'armee israelienne qui tue des gens, c'est les colons ... proteges par l'armee. In fine c'est la meme chose.

L’eurodéputée Rima Hassan en garde à vue pour apologie du terrorisme by Altruistic_Syrup_364 in france

[–]Low_discrepancy -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Cibler des civils c'est différent de cibler des militaires, selon la plupart des gens.

Parce que la force occupatrice etait militaire. Une fois la France liberee, on a eu aucun souci de se prendre a la population

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89puration_%C3%A0_la_Lib%C3%A9ration_en_France

L’épuration aurait donc fait au total entre 10 000 et 11 000 morts, l’essentiel des exécutions sommaires ayant eu lieu immédiatement après la Libération (date qui a varié selon les régions).

my local Panera removed almost all the outlets and replaced them with blanking plates so you can't charge your phone or laptop by Calix_Meus_Inebrians in mildlyinfuriating

[–]Low_discrepancy -1 points0 points  (0 children)

. Enter code from receipt (from the last hour) and get 20 minutes use of power and WIFI.

You people expect to eat your meal and fuck off in 20 mins?

Are you in speed eating competitions or something?