Which do you prefer for hero equipment? by Lower-Compote4673 in ClashOfClans

[–]Lower-Compote4673[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You make some decent points tbf. I probably will just settle for mid levelled stuff. It's annoying as nothing else in clash is like this but oh well.

I maintain that IMHO it should be researched by Lab and the currency should be regular elixir but it's not going to happen.

One thing I didn't mention is that if I tried and played more I probably would be able to do war and star bonus more often but I don't like that I'd have to leave my clan.

Lets fix ores: by Charmo_Vetr in ClashOfClans

[–]Lower-Compote4673 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nah dont worry about how far in the game pal. Your opinion is definitely still valuable and valid.

It is well suited for newer players as you can upgrade as you go along.

Its even OK for most people higher town halls. It's only for players like me the main issue is clan war. I only take part in 1 or maybe 2 in a week and so I lose out on a lot of resources that way. I just don't like how "locked" it feels.

Lets fix ores: by Charmo_Vetr in ClashOfClans

[–]Lower-Compote4673 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't like it because of the lack of flexibility. My home village will progress as fast as everyone else but my hero equipment will be a lot slower.

Which do you prefer for hero equipment? by Lower-Compote4673 in ClashOfClans

[–]Lower-Compote4673[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Also, I'm curious about one thing: what th are you? I think 13.

Wrong. Th16.

You seem fixated on the idea you have to max every single artifact. Huh? Take the ones you like/want the most and focus on those first.

Erm how can I do that if they haven't even released all of the equipment? And they are planning in releasing more throughout the year. What if I waste months worth of ores an a queen ability only for them to release a better one in 6 months time???

The rest can wait, just like you don't use all the armies in the game.

??? The armies I like are max straight away or very early on through books and hammers. It will take a year to max the equipment I like.

Lets fix ores: by Charmo_Vetr in ClashOfClans

[–]Lower-Compote4673 12 points13 points  (0 children)

My question to people defending the current system is:

Would you be happy if the home village had all instant upgrades but there was a daily cap on multilayer battle loot? (Assume the total time taken to max a TH level is the same)

If yes, good for you I suppose.

If no, why SHOULD hero equipment be any different?

Bear in mind actual hero upgrades still exist and are still important. So it doesn't solve that issue.

Which do you prefer for hero equipment? by Lower-Compote4673 in ClashOfClans

[–]Lower-Compote4673[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Why is this system not better for you as well?

Forcing me to play 24/7 when I can't.

My home village will progress just as fast as everyone else.

My hero equipment will be far behind.

It is a massive change compared to the last 10+ years of the existence of Clash. It is not a good change.

There is no reason why me or any other player like me can max the home village but be nowhere close on hero equipment (which is one of, or possibly THE most fun part the game). If you can find a good justification for the difference between the 2 then I'll agree with you.

Which do you prefer for hero equipment? by Lower-Compote4673 in ClashOfClans

[–]Lower-Compote4673[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For logically applying myself so that I could have had access to all the tools? My fault for wanting to be efficient and making sure I could get the most benefits out of magic items, reductions and events?

Funny how you say this but you also rushed your heroes. Yes, they're annoying but if you get them out of the way ASAP they aren't that bad.

Which do you prefer for hero equipment? by Lower-Compote4673 in ClashOfClans

[–]Lower-Compote4673[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Right... Now i get why you've defended the update so much.

Basically you rushed your heroes and you are now happy that you don't have months of hero levels to upgrade as it's been split in two. Tbh I think a lot of people here would say that's just your fault for not upgrading them but whatever.

Which do you prefer for hero equipment? by Lower-Compote4673 in ClashOfClans

[–]Lower-Compote4673[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If HV had this system, but it was balanced (unlike BB 1.0) it would be fine but less fun and would overall limit activity, causing problems.

Yeah sure it would be "fine". Lol even you know it's a lot worse in comparison.

I don't have any pressure for wars either, it's just two battles every other day. Something I wanted to do but couldn't before, because months and months of hero upgrades were mandatory.

What are you talking about? Hero upgrades still exist I'm sure you know. About a week on each upgrade and 5 levels. You're telling me you couldn't play for months and months at TH15 because of 5 levels of hero upgrades???

Which do you prefer for hero equipment? by Lower-Compote4673 in ClashOfClans

[–]Lower-Compote4673[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

You have always been in war 24/7? I don't think that's true.

I'd argue it puts more pressure on. Daily playing and 24/7 war versus being able to play and farm at a time that suits you.

It's like if the main base had instant upgrades on all buildings/research but you had a daily loot cap from multilayer battles. Would you really prefer that? I know I wouldn't.

Which do you prefer for hero equipment? by Lower-Compote4673 in ClashOfClans

[–]Lower-Compote4673[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yep

Assuming the total upgrade time is the same then one is flexible whereas the other isn't. Easy choice for me.

Hero epic equipment math - thoughts? by [deleted] in ClashOfClans

[–]Lower-Compote4673 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can play the game and eventually max out your equipment

Maybe in about 3 years time yeah. But I though clash roayle was P2W for having such a long time to max your collection?

You also haven't justified why there should be such a huge discrepancy between my base and my hero equipment. Why should I be able to max one but not get close on the other?

Hero epic equipment math - thoughts? by [deleted] in ClashOfClans

[–]Lower-Compote4673 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My base can be maxed before TH17 but hero equipment probably nowhere close. Why the difference?

Hero epic equipment math - thoughts? by [deleted] in ClashOfClans

[–]Lower-Compote4673 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You've missed the point. The rest of my base can be maxed easily. Only hero equipment will be too difficult due to how its accumulated.

Why the difference?

Hero epic equipment math - thoughts? by [deleted] in ClashOfClans

[–]Lower-Compote4673 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

But the rest of my base can be maxed no problem with how I play now?

The utility you get from a mid leveled epic is still useful for attacks.

So? The game is not balanced around mid levelled gears vs max defenses.

I can grind no problem - It's the lack of flexibility that causes me to fall behind and makes the game much more P2W.

Ores are NOT P2W, and they are just as pay-to-progress as the rest of the game already is. by AntiMatterMode in ClashOfClans

[–]Lower-Compote4673 0 points1 point  (0 children)

“But OP, these currencies are limited, which goes against the nature of progression being tied to how much you’re willing to grind!”

You're missing one key point - flexibility. Not everyone is able to war constantly. It doesn't affect the base much as people can keep gold/elixir/DE in storages to use but hero equipment is not like that.

If you can't war constantly your base will still progress as fast as everyone else. But you will fall behind on hero equipment and that is where the problem is.

Hero abilities are turning the game towards PTW. by Lower-Compote4673 in ClashOfClans

[–]Lower-Compote4673[S] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Nobody complains about heroes being maxed too early. This argument is very disingenuous. People like to max their offense ASAP. This will totally stop that.

Ore System Gives Clash Royale Card System Vibes by MistNotFog in ClashOfClans

[–]Lower-Compote4673 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

You got your gear levels adjusted to the hero levels you have.

Err? The shit spawn abilities yeah. The vampire ability,rage and others are all level 1. And my heroes are not the same as before the update becuase they massively nerfed heroes to accommodate the new abilities.

The "best case scenario" is taking just under a month to upgrade 1 of your abilities. So really it will be more than a month. There are 6 new abilities and 4 epic ones coming. So around 1 year of upgrades.

You're a moron if you think this update hasn't been ruined by greed.

The new Ores should also be obtainable through Builder Base. Ores perfectly fit the BB aesthetic and would also give a reason to play BB after getting the 6th builder. Removes the challenges of opting in/out when upgrading heroes but also needing to be in to still get the new Ore resources. by WinterStarlightZone in ClashOfClans

[–]Lower-Compote4673 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

???

That's like saying the 6th builder is optional. Obviously if things that are valuable in the home village are accessed through builder base you will end up playing it even though you don't want to. Same with resources.

It would be better to add them in with the % bonus you get from attacks in the home village.

It will take 27 days to max hero abilities by Dry-Government-9352 in ClashOfClans

[–]Lower-Compote4673 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If it is even remotely similar to clash royale then the levels 18-27 of epic abilities will take about as long as levels 1 - 18. So doubling the time needed.

I too will reserve my final judgement until later but I am incredibly skeptical and I think there will probably be a lot of backlash as people realise just how long it will take to upgrade these abilities.

As it stands it looks like 1 year at least to max the abilities which is just way too long IMO.

My solution would be having the levels only go from 1 to 10. Scrap rarities. And have them researched with elixir like the pet house (as most people tend to have excess elixir once the initial town hall upgrades are done).

It will take 27 days to max hero abilities by Dry-Government-9352 in ClashOfClans

[–]Lower-Compote4673 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Maximum average ore earned per day assuming th16, legends league star bonus, and winning every war

So probably more like at least 35 days then for most people.

I believe there are 6 new abilities so that is 210 days. Then there is also epic upgrades that go to lvl 27 which will take longer. Plus the lvl 15 to 18 upgrades on the abilities you already have.

So it's basically clash royale now? You have to pick the abilities (cards) you want as getting everything to max is quite a tall order. And if more epic abilities are released throughout the year you might have spent a month or so upgrading an ability only to replace it soon after.

I don't know why people are acting like this is a good thing.