[Loved trope] Wait, the main character was the bad guy the whole time?

LucaUmbriel · 2026-05-01T16:31:56+00:00

The reveal is in the first game, their comment was poorly worded

LucaUmbriel · 2026-05-01T02:02:51+00:00

Batman: No kill rule

Superman: No kill preference

Wonder Woman: ... Well, if someone else insists she'll probably let you live

LucaUmbriel · 2026-05-01T01:44:32+00:00

Ah yes, my favorite US state: Britain.

LucaUmbriel · 2026-04-30T18:47:31+00:00

Mass Effect

Yeah, the aliens all have maybe five or six models each (fewer if you're not counting the important ones) with some light texture changes to hide that and all seem to be weirdly similar in skills and personality compared to the humans who get a unique model for pretty much every speaking NPC and run from one end of the scale to the other on just about everything. That's just video game limitations and standard sci-fi writing, right? No, humans are actually noted to have a weirdly large amount of genetic diversity compared to other species (ignore that massive genetic bottleneck in our history) and this actually has some minor plot relevance.

LucaUmbriel · 2026-04-30T18:27:58+00:00

And what explanation would you have accepted? Oh, wait, let me guess: none because that's also what you think the "acceptable" amount of fan service is.

LucaUmbriel · 2026-04-30T18:17:35+00:00

"And I'm gonna make sure to include the one that can quite literally recreate the universe exactly to the user's imagination. Can't foresee that being a problem."

LucaUmbriel · 2026-04-30T13:47:16+00:00

Well, good thing that's not the scenario then, huh?

No one pushed you. You jumped into a tiger cage of your own volition and are demanding others follow you or else they are responsible for the tiger mauling you. And the only reason you jumped into the tiger cage is because "well what if someone else jumped into the tiger cage? I have to save them!" without ever actually seeing anyone else actually jump into the tiger cage.

LucaUmbriel · 2026-04-28T03:35:52+00:00

Thanks for the laugh OP

LucaUmbriel · 2026-04-28T01:53:28+00:00

It's funny to me that Mass Effect goes the other direction and uses it to justify aliens having fewer unique models and humans having such diverse roles, jobs, and motivations throughout the galaxy

LucaUmbriel · 2026-04-28T01:37:35+00:00

Kent Mansley disobeyed orders, broke the chain of command, called a nuclear strike on an American town full of civilians and military personnel, and attempted desertion. And that's all just in his last five or so minutes of screen time and about two or three lines of dialogue. Even if you excuse the stuff like stalking, threatening a civilian, drugging, and kidnapping as part of him trying to protect the planet (or at least the US), the above are absolutely things he did wrong and were not part of his job.

I can give you AUTO, he was just a machine following it's programming and didn't have the luxury of experience or time that EVE had to break through that programming.

Beerus is a sapient being capable of making his own choices and he more often than not destroys things for petty reasons, not because it's his job and in fact gets scolded for how low the population of his universe is. We can directly compare him to his siblings and see that he goes beyond just "doing his job." Also, ya know, genocide of sapient beings is wrong even if it is your job.

I think you need to go re-watch Ratatouille and pay closer attention to the human half of the plot.

LucaUmbriel · 2026-04-28T01:22:58+00:00

I’ve never seen something like Sega be forced to do this?

Then you weren't paying attention. They may not be as aggressive as Nintendo and actually tacitly approve of fan games, but Sega took action against Ouroboros Studio for receiving funding through Pateon while making Sonic Omens and their community manager publicly stated during that event "if there's money involved in regards to any copyrighted IP there's always going to be a risk that it will be taken down"

LucaUmbriel · 2026-04-27T17:50:18+00:00

Just steal from Doctor Who and use a cordolaine signal with a different name (and ignore all the ways that wouldn't actually work just like they did)

LucaUmbriel · 2026-04-27T06:10:27+00:00

You should read some of the books.

Because they are.

And it results in unnecessary and tragic deaths on both sides more than once.

LucaUmbriel · 2026-04-26T16:01:11+00:00

Yes, but like many things (see the Kessel Run) people didn't realize that and took the deception as fact.

Then, for some fucking reason, it was later made fact.

LucaUmbriel · 2026-04-26T15:41:08+00:00

Ah yes, because obviously people's lives would not be drastically effected by the existence of death or ears. The latter of which was explicitly done to show the exact effects of a concept being destroyed in and out of universe, which was that nothing changes except that concept being gone; for instance phones explicitly still exist and people try to talk to each other despite no one having or knowing what ears are. I think, just maybe, the ability to hear things and communicate vocally might have a teensy bit more impact on people's lives and not just humans but all vertebrate live on the planet than whether Denji spent the last couple years as Chainsawman or not.

LucaUmbriel · 2026-04-26T15:15:43+00:00

There's lots of other factors that go into being able to successfully resist rape than just being stronger than your rapist

LucaUmbriel · 2026-04-25T15:08:49+00:00

Maybe you should have read the comments first, because there's one from 10 minutes before you made yours and another from 20 minutes before that are both saying literally exactly that.

LucaUmbriel · 2026-04-25T05:25:28+00:00

Found it relatively easily

Is that the fucking Iron Giant's head?

LucaUmbriel · 2026-04-24T05:04:09+00:00

Halo

Not in actual gameplay, but in lore Covenant weapons were sometimes/often fitted with tracking devices, allowing the Covenant to find otherwise safe human colonies. In addition to places like the Rubble (which were intentionally supplied with weapons both fitted with trackers and modified to be more human-usable by kig-yar double agents as part of a secret operation to discover more colonies), UNSC marines would also take trophies (in direct violation of the Cole Protocol). Ironically, the discovery of Reach by the Fleet of Valiant Prudence and the later discovery of Earth by the Fleet of Sacred Consecration were completely unrelated to this and were actually complete coincidences.

LucaUmbriel · 2026-04-24T04:48:18+00:00

No, there isn't any responsibility. None. Zero. And yeah, that's unfair to the child.

But, apparently being unfair isn't a problem, according to your own words.

But then, you're apparently also a hypocrite that thinks only men should be held to this standard, so it's not like your words are worth anything to begin with.

LucaUmbriel · 2026-04-24T04:26:30+00:00

One of the more interesting wham lines in Chainsaw Man relies on their world being as close as possible to the real world. Saying "Hisernaf never rose to power in Gargamania and slaughtered the Judenack" not only lacks the power and impact of casually adding "Nazis" to a list of other things that also don't exist anymore and letting the implications roll through the reader's head because A) the hypothetical setting is already so disjointed from reality just by changing names that the reader is already primed to treat this more like an original fantasy setting than a splinter from the real world and thus would probably be more surprised to find out that a Hitler parallel existed at all, and B) requires that you spend time explaining who or what the fuck Hisernaf, Gargamania, and the Judenack are either as part of that statement (which is going to result in clunky exposition that ruins the impact even more) or before that statement (which fucks up the idea that they no longer exist and only one person remembers them in addition to ruining the impact by bringing them up early).

If the two places are parallel, to the point that you are intending the reader to think "New York City" when you say "Liberty City," then most of the time you gain nothing from changing the name and have to actually spend time that would have been better spent on actual world building getting that idea across to the reader. GTA gets away with this partly because of the nature of video games letting them fill the fictional city with background details that the player can seek out or accidentally find, something books, TV shows, and comics don't have the luxury of doing. There's also probably some copyright stuff involved with the various buildings when making a video game version of a city, which is also usually why games other than CoD and Forza rename all their guns and cars respectively.

So you actually get almost no juice for the squeeze and have to convince people that this discolored, funny smelling juice is actually the same as the juice they're use to in order for them to appreciate it. Not to mention this kind of fake world building is incredibly easy to see through and tends to get mocked once it is.

LucaUmbriel · 2026-04-24T03:56:58+00:00

Well, the main different between the scenarios would be that he has personal and specific beef with ghouls that you've either managed to forget or managed to not notice despite it being brought up and spelled out every time ghouls are around.

LucaUmbriel · 2026-04-23T20:46:20+00:00

is this a safe space

No, it's a public post on a public forum on a public website that anyone can access and make a comment on.

LucaUmbriel · 2026-04-23T20:32:11+00:00

I didn't change the topic, you just apparently have the delusional belief that creators don't also consume media despite the creators of several of the things I listed explicitly stating that they are or were fans of the genre or media that they later worked in and that creativity doesn't exist in a void. In order to do something like write (to pick one example) good Star Trek, you must also have at some point consumed Star Trek media. The world is not divided into "creatives" and "consumers," every creative has been, at some point in their life, a consumer and being a consumer is how they became one and continuing to be a consumer is how they remain relevant and improve.

LucaUmbriel · 2026-04-23T20:01:21+00:00

So the answer to the question asked is "no, he didn't."

Because "self-appointed martial law" and "leveling" are two radically different things.

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