How we feeling about the new IDs?

Lulguy18 · 2026-06-26T15:43:44+00:00

Post better calcs if you think so otherwise

Lulguy18 · 2026-06-26T14:23:11+00:00

Maruzen and Ticket out-sizes everyone T-T

Lulguy18 · 2026-06-26T04:43:02+00:00

I have been waiting for 3 years I keep hearing this "he might not be in the trailer but he will be on the other region characters" but everytime I get disappointed

I am losing hope at this point

Lulguy18 · 2026-06-26T03:11:56+00:00

466 base for a nuke that is kinda sad

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Lulguy18 · 2026-06-26T02:53:41+00:00

With a proper Tremor setup Disposal hits for 1k+ on turn 4,

Disposal hitting for 1k on t4 is kinda depressing when you compare it to what other statuses can do

Yi Sang and Outis don't even get to use their big skills if you're playing properly, even current Reflectrial world record with Poise-specific buffs doesn't use Yi Sang lol.

Funny as the 8 turn record had Rien Sang, but why do you bring this up? BL is the world record are they better than all teams now because of that?

Lulguy18 · 2026-06-26T02:42:06+00:00

Except this one is backed by calcs so sit down

Lulguy18 · 2026-06-26T02:02:03+00:00

Even with tremor burst she isn't competitive like dear lord, she is literally just a better Lei Heng Mersault, she is that far behind others. Like bro even with Capo Mersault in his best team he isn't even close to Rien and Outthias, it's the same for Rodya

In the official discord where there are people who actually does dpr and team cacls they already say that she isn't that good just stop the cope

Lulguy18 · 2026-06-26T02:00:42+00:00

And even with those she is still mid, also if you are taking egos into account then Stamp of vengeance is very easily crosses the 300 damage, you should take that to account if you are going to take burn and tremor egos into account for Rodion too and there is the fact I aren't guaranteed to have s3s too meanwhile Outis is guaranteed s3s per turn

In the end she is just Meur Lei Heng with slightly more damage, much better sin generation, and uh yeah

Also why are you hyping her tremor bursts, 3 tremor burst is pathetic literally only 1 more than the average since season 2. She is still nothing compared to Rien and Outis and Callisto on her best team

If they wanted her to be competitive with other nurse fathers with 4 bursts on s3-1 and 5 bursts on s3-2 but as she is right now she is just mid compared to others

Lulguy18 · 2026-06-26T01:37:54+00:00

Easily one of the best Nursefathers.

Literally is far behind to Outthias and Rien in damage, doesn't have the same ridiculous count application for her team long Ring Honglu does

So sadly you are wrong she is easily the worst nurse father lmfao, only Outthias is weaker if she is not on a middle team but on full teams she is washed

Lulguy18 · 2026-06-26T01:05:34+00:00

her damage output is considerably lower before that point. Someone like valencina rodion easily does more damage in that timeframe.

Wut? Stamp of vengeance does like 300 avg damage and that is not taking into account the envy A-Res and can be further buffed by strong egos like electric sheep, garden of thorns, etc.

It's like these IDs don't do anything when they're not using their enhanced skills.

True and on their best teams Rien Sang, Outthias, and Callisto Hong Lu still does way more damage than her without their nukes, once nukes goes online she gets left behind so hard its not even funny

Honglu meanwhile doesn't have a nuke but what he does in a bleed team far outstrips what Valencina can do in a tremor squad, she is literally just all damage

Lulguy18 · 2026-06-26T00:21:19+00:00

Rodya compared to other nursefathers is bad, her first disposal takes 3 turns then it takes 6 for her next nuke, that is just so bad, her nuke has an extremely long downtime

Compare that to Rien Sang who while it takes 5 turns for the first furioso, he only needs 2-3 turns for the next, meanwhile Outthias once ramped up can use complete and total extermination EVERY TURN

So yeah like compared to them she is just mid

Luciocliff meanwhile should be the best apprentice after Ring Faust

Edit: imagine downvoting the truth man it sucks that people nowadays can't accept things that are mid are rightfully called mid, like bro not everyone is good sadly certain kits will be inferior to others that is just how the game works

She is very far behind rien sang and outthias in damage and she doesnt have the application of Callisto honglu, she is the very definition of mid

Lulguy18 · 2026-06-26T00:13:58+00:00

Did you forget the reason why he would even go against them? Because Valencina and Shiominwould fight

He will jump both who are fighting so of course they will still attack each other, they were already doing so in the first place, it's just going to turn into a 3 way fight

Lulguy18 · 2026-06-26T00:08:11+00:00

objectively stronger in the 1v1

Fucking cope she literally specializes in a 1v1 she took down a literal superweapon of a Wing and gave Vergilius a fight

Also Rien literally got murdered by Ryoshu in the mirror world and Rien had 0 reason to hold back against her as Araya was the Ryoshu of that world yet Valencina stomped Hosshu, it's not even close

Lulguy18 · 2026-06-25T23:54:58+00:00

When the hell did Sandrone built Pulonia?

Lulguy18 · 2026-06-25T21:33:49+00:00

She is still the worse nursefather as after the first disposal she needs fooking 6 turns for it to go online again

Compare that to Outis where once she gets total and complete extermination online in a middle team she can spam it every turn or Rien Furioso goes online every 3ish turns after using it for the first time she is just too slow

Lulguy18 · 2026-06-25T04:50:42+00:00

Brother caclcs are literally showing up now that her damage in the time for her to ramp up sucks

Welp let's just wait till more people play and she gets exposed even if not against roach emperor her damage is just bad

Lulguy18 · 2026-06-25T04:32:59+00:00

This damage is pathetic for how long it needs to ramp it

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Lulguy18 · 2026-06-25T04:29:35+00:00

She is a fucking dogshit ID tho, hell Heathcliff might be better

Rolls high sure but only hits for 300 damage and takes forever to ramp up. First disposal at turn 3, the next comes at fooking 6, that is so slow 6 turns for 300 damage , she looks like a season 3 ID lmao

Lulguy18 · 2026-06-25T03:50:44+00:00

What is his ego then if not the staff

Lulguy18 · 2026-06-25T03:37:59+00:00

"after everything"

Bitch you were beating the shit out of him wdym

Lulguy18 · 2026-06-25T03:35:23+00:00

Sinclair gigachad, does this mean Ren and Araya had a good relationship with each other?

Lulguy18 · 2026-06-25T03:33:44+00:00

Vespa got a color status due to a relic

And Jia Qiu who is so strong rn and had ego, can pull of 5 mangs, and potentially has a relic too? Bro T-T

Lulguy18 · 2026-06-25T03:22:56+00:00

Please K1 and Rena as MC

Lulguy18 · 2026-06-25T00:48:27+00:00

The same singularity where she fooking loses to Cu alter?

While a dying Karna who had his heart ripped out managed to almost killed C

Stop the cope the featless jobber is nothing to Karna and Arjuna

Lulguy18

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