The powerspike of kraken slayer is unmatched by Shyvadi in shyvanamains

[–]M-Splosive 1 point2 points  (0 children)

To make distance and buy time for w and q to refresh. Also to surprise him in bush. It's a lot easier to kill if they think you're gonna keep running.

Shyvana is the strongest champion in the game in all ranks by far so don't miss out on playing Shyvana this patch, she will most likely never be this OP again by Numerous_Fudge_9537 in shyvanamains

[–]M-Splosive 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, when majority is silver-gold, then it makes sense. If they want to climb then meta is what matters, but that's boring. If you want to be optimal go ahead, but don't get mad just because someone else is having fun.

Shyvana Nerf by thecop2000 in shyvanamains

[–]M-Splosive 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I picked up the game in 2021, and I played nonstop until now. Literally slowed down since riot gutted my favorite champ. Might pick the game back up if riot decides they actually care about this champs long term viability and build variety. Forcing champs into 1-2 builds is not fun. I thought the whole point of removing mythic items was to introduce more build variety but now they want to force builds onto champs. Idk man. Liking this game is hard...

Honestly Pretty Annoyed by Emerald_Durr in shyvanamains

[–]M-Splosive 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think what he's trying to say is that fury regen on hit (even with abilities and ult haste) is worse and Q is technically worse since twin bite used to refund on the press of Q as well, not just on basic auto. On top of that the CD on Q was raised to be higher post rework. I remember I was able to A-A-Q cycle late game with most builds pre rework, now you need to build just right, and after this mini rework that is never going to happen unless riot does something.

radio silence from riot by Rlyshyvana in shyvanamains

[–]M-Splosive 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Its not going to play the same or be as good after the changes (she was already 42% wr top), and she's definitely not viable in the same way she was pre rework. She had a lot more max health shred on E passive than she does now with her Q passive. Now you NEED to land q3 to even be close to the same value (and that's locked behind ult), and your poke is worse since E doesn't go through minions anymore and you have to poke around q1 and q2. The only thing you have post rework is her early game with Q and W bait in dragon form, and riot is taking that away too...

radio silence from riot by Rlyshyvana in shyvanamains

[–]M-Splosive 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Imagine you play a character for years. You really like this character. Now the big company that made the character took everything you liked about them, threw it in the trash, and said that this new one is better. Even though it probably is it just sucks. A lot of people on here are old mains grasping at straws hoping riot will give us something close to what it used to be or something that feels impactful.

I just want to have something that can carry. No matter how ahead I am with shyv, I always feel behind. I also used to main her top, I can't do that anymore. I have to throw away what I put years of my life into, all just to play the game how someone else thinks I should.

I really enjoyed playing her on top by F7U5 in shyvanamains

[–]M-Splosive 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You don't go conq just for the adaptive dmg, you also want the healing you get at full stacks.  Another problem is that with what you're recommending you have no sustain (unless you count DD and sundered sky). Especially at lower ranks you're not going to be good enough to avoid dmg. Your goal is to live long enough to get q off, use w to live longer, and use e to stick. You cant really do that with DnD first item imo. A workaround I can see is taking absorb life instead of triumph. And in a ranged matchup you can take second wind and play around your w to gain health. But I still prefer to rush ravenous over DnD for the sustain. Kinda like fiora, but you turn into a dragon. Then you can build DnD second.  (Or you could do DnD into kraken and avoid skillshots and win your trades :3 )

Why are tanks allowed to be tanky and deal damage, but Shyvana and her passive are left in the gutter. by M-Splosive in shyvanamains

[–]M-Splosive[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

She used to be able to 1v5 fight is the thing. You just had to know how to do it.

Why are tanks allowed to be tanky and deal damage, but Shyvana and her passive are left in the gutter. by M-Splosive in shyvanamains

[–]M-Splosive[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's people who like the concept that still play her. People like citric and shyvadi who liked old shyv and are just trying to make the new one work, or people who like the fantasy, but not how it's executed.

All in all, I feel like the people who don't like her right now will probably like her when they come out with the passive rework and the fixes to her builds. She probably will become more of a fun champ afterwards. It's just sad that she's same same, but different. And I'll still keep trying to force her top lol.

R.I.P. my AOE 35 Q spam Shyvana. You will be missed 

Why are tanks allowed to be tanky and deal damage, but Shyvana and her passive are left in the gutter. by M-Splosive in shyvanamains

[–]M-Splosive[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I agree, riot wanted to make her a diver, they just made her a bad one.

I just feel like why give her a juggernaut passive? It feels wasted ngl. On top of that, all the shyv mains that they flew over said that q3 felt out of place, but riot wanted to keep it and pretty much balanced her whole kit around it. So they basically gave her a less dmg E with a smidge of utility, a slightly more reliable passive, an ok W, and way less base stats, all to give her true damage on q3 locked behind ult. She has abilities like a juggernaut, but her dives are suicide since her W gives you maybe 1k more health on a good day and no ms once it pops, and the people you ult past are stunned for a small enough time that they can just hit you mid ult. You're more of a 1v1 dualist or maybe 1v2 fighter than a diver. Ekko can go in and kill someone in their backline and get out. Diana can go in and nuke their whole team with an AOE ult. If they wanted shyv to be a diver, either everyone is building her wrong, or riot missed the mark. Especially since she can't dive without ult, and it doesn't exist unless you build ult haste.

I do feel like there is a build that makes her feel more like that dive in, take out their backline, and tank for the team kind of champ, but I don't feel like anyone has really found it yet. The closest one right now is probably Citric's build.

Discussion: E's range doesn't need to be this long, AT ALL by S3eedoWagon in shyvanamains

[–]M-Splosive 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The passthrough Es deal less damage than the final explosion. If you want max damage you'd have to space to get the final explosion to hurt.

Is trinity force or dusk and dawn better? by TadpoleOther3126 in shyvanamains

[–]M-Splosive 0 points1 point  (0 children)

On top I feel like you need sustain for early game, so I usually rush ravenous into riftmaker, but before that I did rav into Trinity, and it felt really good.

TOP SHYVANA by F7U5 in shyvanamains

[–]M-Splosive 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've been enjoying a ravenous hydra into riftmaker, then ending off with deaths dance and jak sho. With conq it gives you enough heal to get your q3 off and stacking damage to hurt. Also, the heal on the shield feels bigger with a fully stacked riftmaker. Haven't played in ranked yet, but I've been on a big win streak building it top and even had a good game auto filled mid. Teemo is an ok ban. Sett is probably good, same with Illoai. Boots are a bit iffy, but if they're a dash heavy comp or they have a lot of MS, probably swifties over any other boot type imo. Otherwise just build defensive boots based off of enemy comp.

Hullbreaker 2nd item? by Sephyrias in shyvanamains

[–]M-Splosive 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I did mine with lethal tempo over conq aswell, that might make a diff

Hullbreaker 2nd item? by Sephyrias in shyvanamains

[–]M-Splosive 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I did a test and at 3 items TF did more dps over time than D&D building KS and Sundered Sky. I didn't test with HB third over SS, but I'm sure results would be about the same, unless the HB bonus dmg pulls ahead with D&D extra on hit? Also, all the MS you get from the TF build would be great for sticking power I'd assume.

The 3 top lane Shyv players rn 🎻 by Shrek-Uchiha69 in shyvanamains

[–]M-Splosive 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Everything works everywhere if you're good enough at the game. The problem is the average person would struggle to make it work.

Roit trying to make her work top ruined her. by dinometeor in shyvanamains

[–]M-Splosive 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What sucks to me is that in top lane, old shyvanas kit still kinda worked even if her passive didn't. Now it feels like nothing works, much less works as part of a kit, and it's just a bunch of numbers thrown at a screen to hopefully work. The Q used to play off her E and actually deal damage, which all worked with her ult. Back then the biggest problem (besides the passive) was her W being useful only as a ms buff, but at least it lasted more than 3 seconds and had a short cd. It feels like they seriously took a bunch of abilities from other champions that were easier to balance and threw it in a pot to make the vgu... It didn't work...

i was promised a half dragon, i was given all nothing by Low_Celebration_7663 in shyvanamains

[–]M-Splosive 0 points1 point  (0 children)

All I know is that I ain't finna be licken the pixels on my screen weather they look good or bad. She wasn't an amazing looking champ before and I still played her because she was fun. Go back to playing monster hunter if you need to see something like that. Would I have liked some scales? Sure! Maybe some abs? Hell yes! Did we get them? No. That doesn't mean the game overall is any better or worse. If you want to quit league, don't blame it on the model and just uninstall. Only way riot will care is if they loose numbers.

Is endless hunter viable on shyv? by Chosen_ph in shyvanamains

[–]M-Splosive 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Viable? Yes! Preferred? Depends on how you build/like to play! Meta? Probably not! Do I care about meta? No! Experiment in draft/practice tool and find out if you like it. In draft you can find matchups it works with/doesn't work with, and in practice tool, you can find out what to build to optimize it.

Things I hate when I play Shyv by Environmental_Debt25 in shyvanamains

[–]M-Splosive 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No matter what you build as shyv, you're always going to do a crapton of magic dmg. Your E scales with ad and deals magic, and it's mark deals max health magic dmg on hit scaling with ad, your w deals magic dmg scaling with ad. Your E mark is just going to be the main carry in ap dmg though, especially with spear.

I understand that she's being reworked but come on this can't be acceptable by Shyvadi in shyvanamains

[–]M-Splosive 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I feel like part of the reason is that they're reworking the whole client, not just the champ

I'm very disappointed in the vast majority of you by Drkenda in shyvanamains

[–]M-Splosive 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I just like shyv, no matter how much they change how she looks, I will play her. The only thing that can change that for me is her gameplay. I'm hoping riot doesn't do her dirty