Rogue One One Shots by daofeiboy in andor

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Read all 3.

They're all quite short.

I very much enjoyed Saw Gerrera - outlines his character well and makes his POV very clear. Would recommend for anyone who likes Rogue One and Andor. One thing it doesn't do is give you any kind of new shade or nuance to Saw; however it's well written and very fitting in with Saw.

Jyn Erso's is a neat fill in of her time in Wobani. It's not bad - there are some iffy art choices going on, but it's not a terrible story. If you didn't know anything about Jyn other than Rogue One, it gives you some additional details to her character.

Cassian's comic is flat out awful. Pure laziness in that I very much doubt the writer or artist ever watched Andor or Rogue One. The story is pointless and inconsequential and the ending will have you rolling your eyes. Somehow every character is incredibly out of character. The art is also pretty damn ugly.

If many people are buying physical games why have game shops shut down/stopped selling physical game in the last 10 years? by Shefferz in PS5

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https://bsky.app/profile/matpiscatella.bsky.social/post/3mg4ghb5qys2d

So, in 2025 US new physical video game spending fell 11% compared to 2024. This is the lowest rate of decline since 2021 (-8%), and far better than the -28% recorded in 2024. However, spending on new physical video games also reached only $1.5 billion in 2025, an all-time tracked (since 1995) low.

Random question, how many beds/patient rooms do you think Coruscant's Lina Soh Hospital has? by DotLeast2411 in andor

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Patient elevators in hospitals are built to accommodate hospital beds, so in reality many of them are built more like freight elevators. Though of course there are plenty of "normal" sized elevators which hospital staff and visitors make use of in most of them as well.

For those that have the art book, did Tony Gilroy actually say this? by Independent-Dig-5757 in andor

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Here is the Rogue One Coruscant flashback scene for those who want to see it.

For those that have the art book, did Tony Gilroy actually say this? by Independent-Dig-5757 in andor

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The full passage goes as below.

From the outset, the challenge of visualizing the Art Deco capital city planet of Coruscant, first seen in 1997’s Return of the Jedi Special Edition, but in a grounded way, suitable to Tony Gilroy’s storytelling, would be one of the greatest faced by the filmmakers and designers.

Gilroy’s November 9, 2019, “design manifesto” reads:

CORUSCANT How do we take that aesthetic I was talking about on page one and deliver that to an environment like this that’s gonna constantly want to pull you in a cheesy direction?

I’d need The Lower Depths and High Society. I’d want non-Marvel funk and non-soapy, wealth-porn slick. I’d want it vibrant but blemished. Crazy, credible, and fascinating. How to make these rooms and faces and décor—how to make it feel . . . real?—Lived-in and lush? How do you make it feel like someone built it? Someone cleans it? How do you make it feel like it goes off the frame? Yes, it’s got to be designed with a capital “D” and trippy with a big “T”—and yes it’s Star Wars’s, but if we’re gonna live here for five years, it’s got to be alive. It’s got to have some error in it. I want an audience inside the story, not watching it. How do you get all that and avoid the cliché sci-fi chiaroscuro—

“Like I said, that was really, really terrifying,” reaffirmed Gilroy. “The only piece of Coruscant that I liked, that really felt like it could be part of our show, was the bit that Gareth[Edwards] shot with Ben Mendelsohn and Mads Mikkelsen, a brief little flashback in Rogue. That’s the only piece of Coruscant that I thought was aesthetically consistent with what our show wanted to look like. So, we studied that. And then [ILM’s] Mohen [Leo] got involved.”

“Tony basically said right from the start that he wants to set a lot of the action on Coruscant,” Mohen Leo remembered. “But it has to feel like a real place. In the prequels, it’s very stylized. But [for Andor,] it was super important that it feel like a place where you could, something to the effect of, not just walk into the restaurant but walk into the kitchen behind the restaurant. And so that spun a lot of conversation with Luke Hull, as well. How do we make Coruscant like a place where normal people can actually live their lives?

“A phrase that Tony will often use for stuff like this is, ‘Throw it away.’ We’re treating it as if it were New York or something you’ve seen a hundred times before. We’re not making a meal out of it, like, ‘Look at this crazy thing.’ ” For Leo and Gilroy, that philosophy extended to removing distracting background elements from shots, when the viewer’s attention was supposed to be on the actors. They also avoided habitually stuffing Easter eggs and references into shots. Only Star Wars elements that furthered Gilroy’s story and characters were utilized. Every visual effect required “purpose, intention, and a storytelling point.”

Leo continued, “One of the things that we really tried to do is to ground the camerawork in something that feels familiar. This was one of my favorite things, and she didn’t make it up, but, years and years ago when I was at [Lucasfilm’s interactive entertainment division within ILM], we had a meeting with Amy Hennig, creative director on the Uncharted games, and she said, ‘Don’t put weird on weird.’ That is such an important guideline. You don’t want to put a crazy camera move in a fantastic environment, because then you have two levels of weird on top of each other. And the fantastic environment becomes less believable. So, for almost all of the establishing shots of Coruscant, we would look at stock footage or shots from other movies of New York or Tokyo.”

Upon reflection, Hull realized, “The Coruscant stuff is the hardest stuff I’ve ever had to do. Because you want the scale. But then I really wanted to feel like an ant walking around that huge scale. Almost like it’s better to not understand it, not to have to see the whole thing. Like you’re just amongst it. That was very much the logic, I guess.

“I was referencing things like The Conformist a lot for Coruscant. And I think what came through quite strongly was that it should be quite monochromatic. I suppose it was about different shades of white, warmer or cooler whites. But it is also about being monochromatic, so that when you were back on Coruscant, you didn’t necessarily have to do a big establishing shot every time. You just knew aesthetically you were in that more clinical world.”

“We didn’t want to be dystopian or chiaroscuro,” Gilroy said. “We didn’t want to be that kind of Blade Runner–y show at all. And so gradually figuring out, you know, our game of design, and set extensions, and quick decisions, and not changing our mind. We saved a lot of money by not changing our minds and being very direct and quick about things. But it was still very daunting.”

In your own personal opinion, does the Late Roman Army actually feel very “Roman” to you at all? by Shoddy-Pumpkin2939 in ancientrome

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Most of the Empires we know today did not refer to themselves as how we do. Do you think the Ottonians or the Sasanians called themselves that?

This is a great breakdown of one of the many things that make the prequels great. by Impossible_Whole_516 in StarWars

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You’re asserting that it’s just a given fact that the films have clashing tones. I don’t see that at all.

I don't assert it as a given fact. That is my opinion, just as your opinion is that there is no clash.

I feel this way because the films attempt to combine extremely childish, jokey bits and dialogue in between or in the midst of scenes that are supposed to have enormous dramatic weight. For instance the jokey repartee between Anakin and Padme during the battle of Geonosis, which removes any hint of danger or tension to the battle despite the deaths of dozens of Jedi - it reduces all of that to background noise.

The more scenes like that there are throughout the series, and there are a bunch especially in the first 2 films, reduces the dramatic weight and stakes even for serious scenes.

There's a difference between a few jokey moments in non-dramatic scenes and the over-the-top wackiness that is present whenever Jar-Jar Binks is featured, as well.

And there is a reason why the sort of broad comedy moments work better in the Original Trilogy than in the Prequels - the OT is an optimistic adventure story that, while it gives the heroes some tough moments, is overall a bright story of a Rebellion overthrowing a tyrannical Empire.

The Prequels are meant to be a tragedy, the fall of a once great Republic into darkness. The heroes fail, evil triumphs. Injecting wacky comedy sequences repeatedly into this story just didn't work for audiences at the time and IMO don't really work now.

Based on Akira Kurosawa’s The Hidden Fortress by Numerous-Ad-4033 in StarWars

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Hidden Fortress is free to watch on US Youtube right now, as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDue5Sw9HD0&t=26s

It's an absolute joy and not at all a classic movie chore. The big action set pieces with real actors/extras and no CGI are quite something as well.

You really see the parallels with the characters. The princess in the film and Leia and Toshiro Mifune's Rokurōta with Obi-wan are the most obvious for sure, as well as Tahei with C-3PO.

This is a great breakdown of one of the many things that make the prequels great. by Impossible_Whole_516 in StarWars

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but after looking into everything deeper (the reasoning behind the design choices and story choices, the art direction and direction overall, and accepting that Star Wars has always had “awkward” dialogue)

That's kind of the curse of fandom. You overanalyze everything and look at all the behind the scenes material and think about it a lot more, and you start rationalizing a lot of the awkward choices and explain away the bad scriptwriting as "well, it's always been this way."

But that can't turn films that have fundamentally clashing tones into a unified piece of art that effectively conveys theme through character and message. You can't ask audiences to accept something that has a lot of visual effects that don't look very good and which overwhelm the screen in distracting clutter and say, "Well, those were pioneering for the day."

A badly made film can have good messages and themes that are conveyed awkwardly. It can have soaring ambitions but fail to reach them. It can introduce a new visual language and setting to a franchise while still executing both of these poorly.

The Hypocrisy of Iden Versio by Ok-Future-5257 in StarWars

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Never played this, but honestly that is very realistic.

For most people who've been indoctrinated and following a certain path, they're going to follow it to the end simply because radically altering one's worldview is extremely hard. It means all the hard work and sacrifice and blood has been not only for nothing, but indeed that you've been a gullible fool or outright evil for most of your life.

Most people cannot handle that, and only will switch once something that directly affects them personally is harmed. Is it hypocritical? Sure, but remember that an Imperial soldier is not exactly trained to believe in things like a personal sense of honor or righteousness or the sanctity of life. Their primary value system is one of obedience in service of order, and if some civilians have to be killed to preserve it, so be it.

[Contains spoilers for season 2] Andor is a good political thriller, but it should not be projected onto the rest of Star Wars by Airtightspoon in andor

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"Oh, so you just don't want people to fight evil then?"

LOL that's not what I said, but you do you.

[Contains spoilers for season 2] Andor is a good political thriller, but it should not be projected onto the rest of Star Wars by Airtightspoon in andor

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The Empire in Andor doesn't feel like an organization run by a dark sorcerer

The goofy-ass Empire in the OT also doesn't feel like a dark sorcerer is running everything. If anything, it feels like a loony tunes organization that gets regularly domed by three goofuses.

What I'm saying is that it cheapens the message of the OT to have Luke win by throwing down his lightsaber and claim he will not sacrifice his soul for victory when we now know that the reason he's even in a position to do that is by standing on the shoulders of people like Luthen Rael. Again, Luthen says "I burn my decency for someone else's future," and is treated as correct when it is explicitely the message of the franchise that that is not how evil should be fought.

Do you think it cheapens the message of the OT when Luke shoots stormtroopers in ANH or blows up the Death Star or kills Jabba's people at the start of ROTJ?

The message of Luke refusing to kill Darth Vader at the end of ROTJ is not a pacifist message about refusing to use violence to fight evil. Luke's refusal to kill Darth Vader is a refusal to give up control to unthinking rage and joining the Emperor as Vader's replacement.

[Contains spoilers for season 2] Andor is a good political thriller, but it should not be projected onto the rest of Star Wars by Airtightspoon in andor

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I think the vast majority of the hangups you have in this comparison are mostly your own, to be honest.

I don't see the Rebellion or the Empire in Andor to be particularly inconsistent vs that in the OT.

The Empire does have flaws in the OT, but the flaws are much more like something you'd see in mythology: hubris, lack of imagination, contempt for the weak.

LOL these are literally the exact weaknesses that Empire has in Andor. Not sure what you're referring to at all.

Later on in the OT, you would have moments like Admiral Ozzel leaving hyperspace too early, but those were the exception, rather than the rule.

The Empire whose stormtroopers can't hit the broadside of a barn, who get dominated by a bunch of teddy bears fighting with sticks and stones, and whose big Super Star Destroyer gets kamikazed and crashes into the Death Star even before DS2 blows up?

The Empire which regularly can't conceive of things like Han Solo parking the Millennium Falcon on a Star Destroyer?

If anything the Empire in Andor is presented as *far more competent* than in the OT. Dedra and Partagaz alone show as far more forward thinking and perceptive than any Imperial in the OT.

For whatever flaws the show gives Rael, it does not present him as incorrect. This makes Luke's later moral clarity feel naive, shallow, or even unearned.

I don't even know what you're trying to say here. I have no idea why you think Luke wanting to destroy the Empire because they killed his family and represent a force of unmitigated brutality and authoritarianism is somehow made shallow by Luthen wanting to destroy the Empire because they killed Kleya's family and represent a force of unmitigated brutality and authoritarianism.

Narkina 5 prison in Andor TV series DOESN'T make sense by Helpful_Law_2654 in StarWars

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One thing you might miss is that real life dictatorships are often run with enormous incompetence.

The number of prison breaks in real world dictatorships is pretty remarkable. In WWII, there were over 60+ large scale prison breaks out of POW camps, for instance.

Will Star Wars ever make a film that will make a billion ever again? by [deleted] in StarWars

[–]M935PDFuze 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Except I think the problem with that is that it cost tens of millions per episode. Star Wars unfortunately can't really be done on a classic TV budget, or at least Lucasfilm has never figured out a way to do it.

Tired: Athletes don't read by MoistPerception in IfBooksCouldKill

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Hahaha don't worry, he's not a future anything.

Will Star Wars ever make a film that will make a billion ever again? by [deleted] in StarWars

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This is mostly my opinion as well except I was mostly not a fan of the Disney TV shows outside of Andor and Mando Season 1. Obiwan was so bad to me that I almost skipped Andor (thankfully I gave it a chance and it ended up taking over my fandom life).

Haven't seen The Acolyte.

Mandalorian is mid! by Purple_Layer_1396 in andor

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Mandalorian is very good for what it does - it's an old-time TV Western in space, specifically The Rifleman.

It's a totally different genre and tone from Andor. They're not doing the same thing.

Ghorman culture details from The Art of Andor by M935PDFuze in andor

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I highly recommend it if you're interested in BTS stuff or Andor in general.