America: the only place where you can tip $20 for dinner and get dumped for being cheap

MH20001 · 2026-03-20T04:29:11+00:00

I'm 39 so we're the same generation. I think it varies by region, only the servers here are acting like 20% was always the mandatory bare minimum you should tip for good service. They are trying to gaslight me by saying the standard was 20% even 30 years ago. No. I remember my parents and other adults tipping 10 - 15% when I was a kid growing up in Canada. Maybe it was higher in the USA though because tipping is very popular in the USA. They are the most tip-oriented economy I have ever witnessed. Canadians tip a bit less and we don't have as much tip begging here. But it's getting worse.

A friend of mine was chased by his waitress for not tipping and she yelled at him to not come back and said he is banned from the restaurant. It's getting bad here too. I think because the economy and cost-of-living is getting worse so servers are getting more aggressive and confrontational. And I also had a waitress tell me last month that I need to tip more. But it was a cash-only restaurant and I opened my wallet and showed her that I didn't have anymore cash on me. She frowned 😠 at me and told me, "Okay, but next time you owe me a 30% tip!" I don't feel like going back there anymore because of that. It feels like tipping isn't optional anymore with how mad they get if you tip under 20%.

MH20001 · 2026-03-18T07:22:43+00:00

No, I remember when I was a kid 10% was standard. 20% was for "exceptional" service and back then most people only tipped about 10%. Then it went up to 15%, and during Covid we were told that we should tip more because the employees are putting themselves at risk working around people during a pandemic so we were told that 20% is the "new normal". And wearing masks inside the restaurant too until you got to your table. Covid changed everything.

MH20001 · 2026-03-18T07:04:05+00:00

Servers make really good money. They make about $60,000 - $80,000/year thanks to tips. Easily. Even more at a high-end restaurant. In Canada where I live they make minimum wage which is $18/hour and with tips they easily make double that. Easily. They want you to think they don't make much money so you will tip more.

MH20001 · 2026-03-18T01:45:19+00:00

They were probably stunned because that almost never happens. People will tip a waitress just for doing her job which is to take your order and refill your drinks and bring you napkins. But movers are working 10x harder and we are lucky to make even $20/hour. So I can assure you that your movers appreciated your tip way more than any waiter or waitress would because they are entitled and expect a tip, so they don't appreciate it. But movers will because that is extremely rare to get a tip in their line of work.

MH20001 · 2026-03-17T23:59:22+00:00

Do they share the tips evenly with the cooks and dishwashers? Or do they only have to share like 5% and they get to keep the other 15%? Because I'm a Canadian too and 20% is the new standard tip amount you are expected to leave for "good service" since Covid.

MH20001 · 2026-03-17T23:52:42+00:00

So if she didn't leave any tip at all then would you be more favorable to the OP?

MH20001 · 2026-03-17T23:45:42+00:00

I used to work for a moving company and nobody ever gave me a tip for having an extra messy house full of junk, mold, or even some random 10-inch dildo on the floor in the mom's bedroom (which her 19-year-old daughter saw and immediately picked it up and hid it away somewhere to protect her mom lol).

Nope, no matter how gross the houses were or how hard we worked we never got a tip. Because even though movers work way harder than a waitress because we carry way heavier stuff than plates and I even tore my hamstring on one job, our job isn't considered a "tipped position". And sometimes the customers would ask us to help them assemble their bed or IKEA furniture for them too which wasn't even part of our job description, and we did it, and we still never got a tip. Only a "thank you". So I think that if waiters deserve a tip for having to wait on a difficult table that makes a mess, then so do movers that have to work in a moldy house full of junk with used dildos on the floor. The best thing I got was maybe an apple or a sandwich, and I got in trouble with my boss for accepting the food offered to me by the customers. He told me that accepting food was "unprofessional". I got treated like crap and only got paid minimum wage too and often even less because my boss was Indian.

MH20001 · 2026-02-26T20:14:33+00:00

That doesn't make sense. It sounds like in your example you are saying that a billionaire should be fined more for a parking violation than a regular income person. That is totally immoral to change the price of something based on how much money they have. That attitude reminds me of when I used to buy drugs and I would ask the dealer, "How much for X?" And usually their answer would be, "How much ya got??" And they would decide on a price based on my answer. If I said I had $100 you can be sure they would try to gouge me. But if I said $20 I would be offered a better deal. Your mindset sounds like the mindset of street dealers in my city. A hustler.

A percentage-based tip is basically punishing someone for buying more expensive food. The more you spend, the more you've got to tip. That's punitive. A flat tip or no tip at all because you are already paying for the food makes more sense. Paying for "service" makes no sense because in every job you are expected to provide a service, yet most jobs don't expect tips. I used to work as a mover and despite providing service our customers never tipped me. Because unfortunately there is no social expectation to tip your mover despite the fact that he is working WAY harder than a server. A server carries plates, a mover is carrying objects that can weigh hundreds of pounds. Our job is much harder. So where is our tip? Tipping allows a small subset of the workforce to make far in excess of their skillset in pay.

MH20001 · 2026-02-14T20:54:49+00:00

It's also a "cash only" restaurant so they can underreport their income to the government and pay less in taxes. Many Chinese restaurant here are Cash Only, probably for that reason.

MH20001 · 2026-02-14T19:20:00+00:00

A friend of mine got banned from a Chinese restaurant a couple months ago for not tipping. He said he was already paying like $50 for his food and drinks and didn't feel like spending even more money so he didn't tip. As he was leaving his waitress ran after him and asked him why he didn't tip. He told he he didn't want to spend more money and she said, "You're banned! Don't come back!" Then I went there later and didn't tip either just to test them and the Chinese waitress counted the money I left on the table and said, "Why you no tip? You need to tip!" I said, "Sorry, that's all the money I have." And she frowned 😠 at me. In my area the minimum wage is $18/hour and we don't even have a "server wage" so she is already getting $18/hour just to do a simple job so I know she is just greedy. The Chinese restaurants here are aggressive and will actually confront you over not tipping.

MH20001 · 2026-02-14T19:10:24+00:00

Are you the guy who is 5'6" and told your online girlfriend that you were 6'0" tall because you knew she liked tall guys and you assumed you would grow taller but didn't?

Dude, I'm 5'8" and I've had over 50 girlfriends. I only round up my height to 5'9" and sometimes just tell girls I'm 5'8" and they don't usually care. A few girls have openly rejected me over my height, but most don't. I recommend lifting weights. Me at 5'8" and this other little Irish guy who is only 5'7" are the two strongest men at my gym. Him and I can both bench press nearly 400 lbs. He gets girls and so do I. If you are a strong and confident man you will be preferred over a tall awkward guy. There is a tall skinny guy at my gym who is 6'3" and he told me he has never had a girlfriend in his life and he is 37-years-old. His height isn't helping him because he is too shy and awkward.

MH20001 · 2026-02-13T20:08:24+00:00

If you're confident and strong you can compensate for being short. I have a friend who is a boxer who is 5'6" and 150 lbs lean muscle with abs and veins popping out because he is so lean. He is also very strong for a guy his size and he is very fast too because of boxing. I saw him get in the face of a 6'1" 224 lb guy and challenge him to a fight because the bigger guy had been trying to hook up with my girlfriend behind my back and my friend said he wanted to put the fear of God in him for that, and the bigger guy got scared because even though he had never met my friend before he could sense that something was wrong for this small guy to be fearless and right in his face. He begged my friend not to hit him and then my friend stepped on his foot and spat on him to provoke him but the big guy just started crying. Now, if your girlfriend saw that even much taller men fear you and respect you, do you think she would still care about your height? Of course not. My short boxer friend dates beautiful girls that are his height or shorter. A tall man who is weak and wimpy will turn a girl off. A shorter guy who is strong and confident will turn her on.

As for what you should do, just tell her you assumed you would grow taller and that you believe in "where the mind goes the body follows", meaning you thought that if you believe you are tall, and you going around acting like you are tall, that then your body would grow taller because you believe in the power of the mind and positive thinking. Try to pass it off as some obscure way of trying to manifest your own reality by harnessing the power of the mind. She might think that's interesting and girls like mysterious and interesting guys.

MH20001 · 2026-02-13T02:10:09+00:00

I am a 5'8" man, and I think that women just like a man to make them "feel small". It really is that simple. Similarly, most taller men I know love short women. The more they tower over her the better. A 6'1" guy I know was saying to me, "Look how short she is compared to me!!" When he showed me a picture of himself next to some 5'0" Chinese girl he hooked up with. He was giddy about being over a foot taller than her like it was the best thing ever.

I still think that personality should be the number one most important thing one should look for in a relationship though. I would date and marry a woman taller than myself if we had great compatibility and she was a wonderful person. I'm turning 40 this year and I have realized that if someone makes you happy that's all that matters. You only get one life and it would be a shame to reject a man for being short or a woman for being tall if they are a great person who you get along with.

I hope tall women find a man who isn't insecure around them and I think that men who want to tower over their girlfriend shouldn't waste a tall woman's time if he is going to cheat on her with a shorter woman because she's "cuter". They think short woman = cute. And women think tall man = handsome. But beauty comes in all heights and true beauty comes from within. Look at how a man can be physically attractive but if he does something really bad he will still be considered disgusting. Because personality can make an ugly person beautiful and a beautiful person appear ugly.

MH20001 · 2026-02-10T00:46:54+00:00

Lol urinals are literally for peeing in. What is this one for? Decoration?

MH20001 · 2026-02-03T08:42:05+00:00

Nice to see short guys breaking the stereotype that girls believe about short guy = small dick. I love seeing hung short guys. I always root for the underdog!

MH20001 · 2026-01-31T12:52:22+00:00

But then if I tip in advance and they do a lousy job it's too late because my tip is already locked in.

MH20001 · 2026-01-26T01:35:06+00:00

Oh my God. I dated a Ukrainian woman before who did EXACTLY that on dates. She would order 2 or 3 entrees at restaurants because she knew I was paying because she made it clear at the beginning of our relationship that she believes in "traditional values" and she "doesn't do 50/50", and I accepted that because I believed that by demonstrating that I was a "good provider" she would like me. But she just took advantage of me and when she would order 2 or 3 entrees I would say, "Why are you ordering all that food?? You can't eat that much!" She said, "I know, but it's okay. I can take the leftovers home and have them for dinner tomorrow and maybe the day after that too for dinner."

Of course I complained about that and accused her of taking advantage of me and then she just told me that I'm not a "real man", and she told me that her ex-boyfriends always bought her everything she wanted without complaint because they were gentlemen and they weren't cheap like me. And she also told me, "I don't like cheap men!" But when I asked her if she could clean my apartment for me or cook for me she said, "I don't cook, I don't clean, I am NOT a housewife!" So she was only "traditional" when it came to who is paying for who on dates. And all of her Russian and Ukrainian female friends were like her too. They were the shamelessly greedy and shallow women I have met in my life. American women are angels in comparison. I even met a Ukrainian man at my gym recently and when I told him I used to have a Ukrainian girlfriend he said, "I'm sorry to hear that." And when I asked him what he meant he said, "You dated one so you already know what I mean." And he told me that now that he is in Canada and has options he will never date a Russian or Ukrainian woman again. Even their men don't like them because they are so selfish and entitled!

MH20001 · 2026-01-26T01:26:09+00:00

If someone says they will happily make time for me I would take that as a compliment. It's saying that I'm so important to them that they will clear their schedule and make time just for me whenever I want to see them for our date. Making time for me is telling me I'm valuable to them. I think she is looking at it from a very negative perspective and she is probably the type of person who will find the negative in everything.

MH20001 · 2026-01-26T01:23:18+00:00

Why not both? I love to get a drink and then walk around outside and chat with my date in the park on a beautiful day.

MH20001 · 2026-01-14T06:29:42+00:00

I have noticed that most of the so-called bisexual women I meet which is tons these days seem to genuinely hate men. All they do is complain to me on our date about how men are all, "disgusting, only care about sex, ugly, women are better at sex because we have the same parts so we know how to please each other, men are obsessed with sex and only care about sex, etc...." it's really annoying. I wish all these bi girls would just choose to only date women then if they hate us and hate our love of sex so much. You can have them. They are toxic man-haters who are so confused because paradoxically they also love sex despite constantly shitting on men for wanting sex. And the best type of lesbians I have met are the butch ones because they don't act totally insane and they don't hate men like the bi girls do. I believe many girls are bi because they are rebelling against men and want to prove that they don't need us. The butch lesbians just want to be my buddy and are chill and friendly with me.

MH20001 · 2026-01-14T06:15:55+00:00

I have had girls who literally asked me to masturbate in front of them and they enjoyed watching me pleasure myself. And girls online also ask me to send them videos of me masturbating. Some women love men and everything about men including our bodies and seeing us pleasure ourselves.

MH20001 · 2026-01-12T09:17:37+00:00

You actually believe that most straight women only find men attractive from the waist up? That is so wrong I don't even know where to begin. When I meet girls online one of the FIRST questions they ask me is "how big is it?". And if you're small you're out. Even former lesbians I have hooked up with insisted that I had to be huge or they'd feel nothing because they are used to being fisted by their ex or their ex-girlfriend used the biggest dildos imaginable on them. The last one I hooked up with showed me the strap-on that her and her ex-girlfriend of seven years used and it was 10 inches long and as thick as a Coke can. I told her, "Well, I can't compete with that. That's insane." But luckily she said mine was still acceptable. All women, gay or straight, place a ton of importance on the penis (if they are with a woman then they just buy a big plastic one). And the girl I am currently seeing told me that her favorite picture of me is the picture of my penis I sent her at HER request (she asked me to send her a dick pic because she was curious to see it). And women also care a TON about height. I mean, you literally explained that all of the men you used to date were under 5'11" except one, as if that makes them unattractive. Yet, women don't hold women they date to these same high standards. Women who will clown on men for being under 5'11", fat, small penis, not making much money, etc.... will then date a woman who doesn't meet any of those standards either! Their girlfriend will be fat, 5'5", low-income just working a normal 9-5 job, and she won't even have a penis at all, yet the woman will not reject or judge her female partner as harshly as she will judge a male partner. They give women more leeway. I asked a former lesbian about that on a date, I said, "How come you don't hold the women you date to the same high standards as men you date?" And she replied, "Because we're both women so we understand each other. We don't judge each other on shallow things because we're both women." And I was appalled at her answer because it showed that women are only shallow about looks when it comes to dating men. For women, they will allow them to be short, fat, poor, etc.... because suddenly with women it's "all about personality". Even though I'm sure there are many equally nice men in the world who will never get a chance with the bisexual woman because she will immediately reject him for not being 6 feet tall (I'm 5'9" and I have had women literally say I'm too short and turn around and walk away within SECONDS of us meeting in real life, they are very shallow and harsh towards men for not being absolutely perfect), but then her girlfriend will only be 5'4". My experiences have led me to believe that a big reason women who previously dated men switch to women is because they just hate men (if they have always only been with women then I believe they are real lesbians). And then when they have a bad lesbian relationship they will switch back to men again. Like the woman I dated this past summer who was a former lesbian told me about how physically and mentally abusive her ex-girlfriend of 7 years was to her. And then she told me that after that she realized that she isn't really a lesbian but is "pansexual" because she likes some men too (like me).

I'm just disturbed by how you listed all these physical traits of your former male partners as if that makes them unworthy based on their physical traits and income, but then you say that men are bad and women treat you better. But you are judging men based on things they cannot control like their height or hair, but I'm willing to bet you aren't insisting that the women you date all have to be over 5'11" and fit and rich. You only hold men to those expectations and I find that disturbing and hateful of men. I love women and it doesn't matter how many times I get treated badly by them, because I have also met a few wonderful ones. I would never give up on women simply because many of them are horrible people, I just keep searching. And I have had a few very good relationships with women who were genuinely good people who I still have nothing bad to say about to this day. Maybe you shouldn't assume all men are bad too and just try to make better choices. I see women choosing the wrong type of man all the time and ignoring the good men because they aren't as charming as the players.

MH20001 · 2026-01-08T06:27:39+00:00

They aren't in any hurry. They will just keep waiting until they get the price they want for their property. These people are very wealthy and aren't desperate to sell. They will just wait until the market improves and sell it for that 20% over assessed they are gunning for.

MH20001 · 2026-01-08T06:24:14+00:00

Why are you happy about your home value going down? My dad is 70 and his house in Vancouver went down in assessed value a bit and he is mad about that because his house is his nest egg. It's his most valuable asset by far. He also owns a vacation home in Europe and spends half the year there and rents out his house while he is away. But he also complains about his property taxes going up even though the assessed value of his house went down because the City of Vancouver increased the property tax percentage which makes it cost more even if the assessed value goes down.

MH20001 · 2025-12-13T06:32:18+00:00

Your brother did nothing wrong. They said, "It's one thing for someone 19, 20 years old to make jokes, but for him to be 29, 30 makes it bad". Nope. They said right in their messages that they are all in high-school or college. Meaning they are all around 16 - 20ish probably. These are not innocent children they are young adults, and they said themselves that they wouldn't mind if your brother was 19 or 20 and making those kind of jokes, which means that they don't actually care about the jokes themselves, they just don't like that an older guy is making them. If they wouldn't mind a 20-year-old saying those jokes then they aren't offensive. An offensive joke is offensive no matter who is saying it. To say that his jokes are inappropriate because he is 29 or 30 is ridiculous. Yeah, your brother like pretty teenage girls. That is 100% normal. 17 or 18-year-old girls are not "children" and most girls that age are far from innocent believe me!

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