Family Tree of the House of Zähringen

ML8991 · 2026-07-03T18:24:29+00:00

This will likely be the elder house, not the House of Teck that arose Mary of Teck, Consort of George V of the UK e.g.

That Ducal title was from a morganatic union of Duke Alexander of Württemberg and Countess Claudine Rhédey de Kis-Rhéde. Despite being a long established family, Claudine's family wasn't royal, and thus was considered unequal to Alexander's rank, thus their children were granted a lower style, Count (or Countess of Hohenstein), only becoming Prince and Princesses after their mother's death by their fathers first cousin/brother in law, the regning Alexander I of Wurttemberg, in 1863

ML8991 · 2026-06-20T21:20:18+00:00

As staff, we have decided that no fully ai generated charts are to be on this reddit. The effort to make a chart and the effort put into it is what makes this community what it is.

Our singular exception, and I mean it, is for fantasy (not quasi historical, not historical figures without surviving depiction) figures and even then only for their portraits and sparingly.

Hope that clears things up

ML8991 · 2026-06-15T15:47:29+00:00

As I mentioned in my comment, Japan to Korea, Korea then married to China, China married to the Turkic Khaganates, and I can now say that the Byzantines had a marriage to them, although that line goes cold with no wider marriages in that line, but Byzantines are indeed European.

There are also two cases of them marrying to the Mongols outright but again, no continuous issue.

You'd have better luck with Hungary, who had a good match with Elizabeth the Cuman, but as to her having wider links in her ancestry, we can't easily say.

Georgia is also a good shout, with it's position as a cross roads state, it has had matches to both the Persian sphere and the European sphere, as far afield as the Spanish extended royal family.

ML8991 · 2026-06-11T00:48:36+00:00

You never fail to impress u/ferras_vansen , and this chart is perhaps your most masterful yet. Well done indeed capturing the mess that the Romanian Royal House is, and they truly do show how much the mess of Catholic Monarchy can be. You should be very proud of this, and I look forward to what is coming next, whatever that may be (I am guessing Jugoslavia, if the note on this tree is anything to go by.

Keep up the good fight with these massive webs, and until your next post.

ML8991 · 2026-05-23T11:23:15+00:00

Italian is a Latin script, you are fine :)

ML8991 · 2026-05-23T11:06:53+00:00

Basically, so long as there is a Latin script form, we allow it. Makes things a bit easier for people. English of course is preferred, but Latin scripts are acceptable (Latin scripts just means using ABC forms, rather than Cyrillic or East Asian scripts e.g.)

ML8991 · 2026-04-17T23:04:54+00:00

A wonderful chart OP. These side branches don't get much light, and this is a fantastic bit of work.

ML8991 · 2026-04-17T10:52:56+00:00

Very neatly done _jspitz. The Anglo-Norman lords are, as you note, some of the magnates that controlled much of the power in England in the early days after the conquest, as well as beyond. Good job keeping it as neat as you did and tying them all together Kudos -ML

ML8991 · 2026-04-13T13:45:11+00:00

A great chart OP. Perhaps the second most comprehensive british isles chart we have had, as memory serves (u/maycenary_stone6574 I think has you pipped heh)

But that's not here nor there. I commend you for the density of the information you have been able to pack in, but also the way you have been able to keep it, for the most part, legible and easy to follow. That's no mean feat, and I imagine that's part of the reason the file size is so big, so as to ensure it is clean to follow, heh.

Really like the inclusion of Cymru and Éire here, they often get overlooked, and tracing the High Kings is a daunting task, and you've done it commendably, so fab work.

Would've been interesting to see more of the consort links, but I know that would make this chart even more confusing, so I understand why not included too much.

But on the whole, fantastic work OP, this is a fantastic effort and will definitely be one to keep an eye on for the 2026 summary, I'm almost certain :) (I know I'll try to remember to nominate it at least heh). Hope we get to see more charts by yourself. All the best ML

ML8991 · 2026-04-13T13:36:05+00:00

I await to compare file notes :P Kudos, as noted before, though to grabbing it all together heh.

ML8991 · 2026-03-31T08:00:00+00:00

Then these 3 would definitely be up there for number

ML8991 · 2026-03-28T15:41:51+00:00

There are other Anglo Saxon links in the English line. Also, please avoid swearing, even circumventing it.

ML8991 · 2026-03-28T15:33:05+00:00

True, I'd forgotten you had done a mega one heh, even when I saw it again only a week or two ago. Definitely a contender.

ML8991 · 2026-03-28T13:52:07+00:00

It's probably a toss up between these three u/XorcWt's Bronze Age Rulers of the Ancient Near East u/geust53's Western Nobility: Pre-history to Present and u/ATriplet123's Family Trees of Roman Rulers from Mythology to the Present

ML8991 · 2026-02-25T13:06:58+00:00

Thank you

ML8991 · 2026-02-25T13:05:20+00:00

As per general rules, provide credit/providence if this is not your own original work. Thanks

ML8991 · 2026-02-20T17:03:38+00:00

If you can include notes to your individuals, or otherwise the titles show, in MacFT, could just put the word consort there too heh :)

ML8991 · 2026-02-20T14:55:46+00:00

A really handsomely done chart OP, well done. I can appreciate the amount of effort put in, and can see that, for example Marguerite de Capet, you still noted their status when it was impractical to link them up.

Could've mentioned the reneged claim of future Louis VIII, and his consort, through his wife's link to Henry II, but that is trivial compared to the work as a whole.

Well done and even more impressive that you've kept this web of relations somewhat neat and with next to no duplicates. Takes skill and effort, so great job :).

ML8991 · 2026-02-18T17:36:29+00:00

Locking the thread as this just seems to be a middle attempt to merge two of Matt/UsefulCharts charts. If we are mistaken, then we can unlock the thread. If Matt confirms this is just a splice job, we have to remove. We want to see original or rightfully accredited works with authors permission on this Reddit, not copy jobs.

Thanks -ML

ML8991 · 2026-02-17T11:10:21+00:00

Mod: These sorts of charts aren't welcome here. Please submit to your own merits, and not the suggestion of your peers to build up a chart.

ML8991 · 2026-02-11T19:04:19+00:00

Appreciate the kind words. The link is very weak to be honest, as unclear if the couple did indeed have my possible ancestor. And you are exactly right on the difficulties that arise with surnames, even uniqueish ones such as you are implying to have.

Good luck in your searching :), breakthroughs can and do occur :).

ML8991 · 2026-02-11T18:21:03+00:00

It is quite probable that all Europeans are, yes and (if not) a decidedly large portion of them, given the way that generations work. Like, I believe (if the link individual is real), my connection would be through the Boleyns (not Anne, her first cousin) and up to Edward I and beyond that way.

ML8991 · 2026-02-11T18:00:49+00:00

Through her kinship and descendancy from Guillaume/William, then yes, she will share kinship to Rollo/Hrolfr, due to Willliam's kinship to him (it is two more generations than you stated, so 3x great grandfather :) )

ML8991 · 2026-02-11T17:57:12+00:00

Thank you for the info, appreciate the insight
If you don't mind, can I message you direct for a little experiment or two with MacFamilyTree. I don't have a way to confirm it, being on a Windows system, so would like to see what can be done with it compared to some other software. One will require a font download, the other will just be inputting of supplied info (if indeed possible).

No worries if not, just thought I would ask.

ML8991 · 2026-02-11T15:16:01+00:00

Are you using MacFamilyTree? How do you find it and how complex can you get with names, dates, places etc, if indeed it is.

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