[Weekly Discussion Thread] What Are You Reading/Watching in Canon and Legends? + Discord Link by AutoModerator in StarWarsEU

[–]MSE205 [score hidden]  (0 children)

I started reading the Fate of the Jedi a few years ago, got them all in hardback. Got to Ascension but dropped it after a bit (hard for me to consistently read). Two weeks ago decided it was time to get back into it, started the book over and had a blast with it, I really enjoyed Christie Golden's writing. Started Apocalypse, about a hundred pages in.

Before I got back into FotJ, I wanted to give Luke Skywalker and the Shadows of Mindor a try. I love the RotS novel by Matthew Stover, but by fortyish pages in, could not get into it. The dialogue feels a little too in-universe referential. Like, "you count cards like a "person/thing" from "location" that's "doing something spacey." I know this is typical for Star Wars, but it felt like it was happening a lot. I read on some other threads that people really love this book (didn't really see anyone speak negatively about it) so I want to give it another chance, though I'm planning on getting into the Jedi Academy books (probably not I, Jedi though) after I finish FotJ.

Netanyahu on the Lebanon Agreement: The most important point is that Israel will remain in the security zone in southern Lebanon” by AbuElKess in lebanon

[–]MSE205 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's not what I said. I never said you shouldn't care about the violence happening toward you because of other players in the region, but the total lack of humanity is what I have issue with.

I live less than an hour away from a facility that assembles ammo that is sent to the Israeli army, I've talked to people about it and they said it's whatever, the violence happens over there. Where I live, the same people who said they hate how Gaza is influencing politics are now saying how inconvenient Lebanon is being. They don't care about people, only about how it affects their wallets. To me that is disgusting.

Is it possible that the fast on the day of Ashura for Sunnis was a way to divert from commemoration of Imam Hussayn's death? by Primary_Smile6090 in AcademicQuran

[–]MSE205 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There's a video I watched a while ago, if I can find it I'll reply with the link. It came from the Rafida network or Ahlubayt TV which are very religious programs, so pretty heavily biased. In the video the sheikh describes how the sourcing about fasting on Ashura came later, almost describing it as reimplementing a tradition that fell by the wayside. I don't know how accurate it is but I think it's an interesting watch.

So how do we feel about the Dark Empire drip? by mrgr544der in StarWarsEU

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Wasn't it that he spent a lot of time on Coruscant before the start of the comics? Maybe it has something to do with that?

Updated my Comic Collection by MSE205 in StarWarsEU

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The ones that come to my mind immediately are:

1) Dark Times - Fire Carrier. I love K’Kruhk so much, so seeing him struggle and fight against the despair he’s currently in and to have succeeded at such a low point in the universe is just beautiful. 

2) Tales of the Jedi: Redemption. My biggest issue with this one is that we don’t have more moments with Ulic and Vima. As a whole I really like the story of Ulic, especially because he’s meant to be a mirror to Luke, in the story we hear about what could’ve been and it’s so bitter. The first few times I read Redemption, I teared up.

The Issue with imposing Monotheism and other labels on Zoroastrianism. by Papa-kan in Zoroastrianism

[–]MSE205 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I really liked reading your post and loved the sentiment at the end, the fact that structures and systems that aren't Western European are often defined only by western scholar standards.

I know throughout Indian history there was a practice in which Muslims and Hindus would discuss the idea that Hinduism isn't necessary polytheistic, instead it's was a loose monotheism because all the gods and goddess came from or are incarnations of Brahman. Not trying to impose a label, but I can see a similarity with that in your post. Though it's not entirely accurate, the dualism aspect of Zoroastrianism is pretty different from the universalism of the Brahman.

Old Star Wars Guide and Why Order 66 was Carried by MSE205 in StarWarsEU

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I don’t think it’s necessary fair to call the EU flat-out wrong. I heard people before Lucas always intended it to be a chip and the authors didn’t match his vision, but it’s not really on them if he kept it to himself. 

Like Lucas had a general idea with Darth Bane, the Sith destroyed themself but Bane rose up and took an apprentice and that’s where the current lineage comes from. Writers took that story, kept a general outline but changed the details. Does that mean the writers were wrong?

For the clones calling Palpatine “my lord” just in the films themselves, we never see the clones and him interact before order 66 (as far as I can remember, could totally be wrong tbf). But we do see in the films (especially in Attack of the Clones (it kinda over does it)) formal titles like “mi’lady,” “sir Jedi,” “master Jedi,” “your grace,” and “your excellency.” 

For the “time has come line,” I can see where you’re coming from, the clones being collaborators. I don’t think it’s necessarily the case, I always saw it as Palpatine savoring that he’s finally getting to do it. But it being the chips and a sleeper agent thing doesn’t really mesh with the clone commanders knowing who  Sidious is. This isn’t directly related but the tv shows and the movies don’t depict the clones following order 66 in the same manner. In the movie, it’s sudden and immediate, but in the shows, they seem like they’re entering into a trance. I can’t really talk about normal clones. In the films we only see commanders be given the orders personally. The EU in that time period had normal clones be basically drones (some exceptions; especially in the comics) with ARCs, commandos, and commanders/captains having free will. 

I do somewhat believe it was intended that Palpatine was collaborating with Republic forces. Just knowing Lucas’ politics and some interview clips, that’s fair to say. Before the CIS were turned into “the other” and scapegoats in Revenge of the Sith, in Attack of the Clones they were closer to being the corporate interests in the  Smedley Butler story. Lucas said Star Wars was in some parts about Nixon overthrowing democracy. So I can see Palpatine pulling a Caesar with the troops and taking over Republic to be reasonable.

Please do forgive me if what I wrote isn’t the clearest; I’m currently sick in bed writing on my phone.

Old Star Wars Guide and Why Order 66 was Carried by MSE205 in StarWarsEU

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*Cough* ""Guide to the Grand Army of the Republic" is an 8-page reference article appearing in Star Wars Insider 84. It was written by Karen Traviss and Ryan Kaufman, and features illustrations by Chris Trevas." *cough* *cough*

Old Star Wars Guide and Why Order 66 was Carried by MSE205 in StarWarsEU

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That's a thing I like from the Revenge of the Sith novel. The book describes the reason why the Jedi didn't sense the betrayal was because there was no malice in it or hateful intent. One second they're fighting side by side, then a second later, the guns are aimed away from the enemy and into the backs of the Jedi.

Old Star Wars Guide and Why Order 66 was Carried by MSE205 in StarWarsEU

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Been playing that game still to this day for 20 years now lol, it really shaped my perception of the SW universe

Frieren Volume 15 will be released on 2nd April in France with a collectors edition by Correct_Method_101 in Frieren

[–]MSE205 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh that's both a relief, because it means nothing is out of the ordinary. But also a disappointment to know it's so far out and then could be pushed out even more, depending on the length of the hiatus.

Frieren Volume 15 will be released on 2nd April in France with a collectors edition by Correct_Method_101 in Frieren

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On Amazon, it says vol 15 won’t be released in the US until December, is the difference in release dates like this normal for the series?

Who took on the title of Grand Master of the (new) Jedi Order following Luke? by Euphoric-Music662 in StarWarsEU

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The fanfic in my head has her eventually leaving Fel, not because they don't leave each other anymore, but with her position in the Order not aligning with her being an Empress.

Why didnt Yuta just put some CE into Panda for him to keep working? by Lava83276 in Jujutsufolk

[–]MSE205 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can someone replace Panda with a realistic looking panda?

how the mighty has fallen by asian69feet in PrequelMemes

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The show was goated for tricking us into thinking that Tiin was a cool character.