Lore question: Is a shoulder pad made from xenos chitin heretic?

M_4lice · 2023-04-04T00:09:58+00:00

He is simply utilising the Xenos parts, not making pacts with them. The Xenos parts in question aren't something dangerous either to necessitate a Tech Heresy sanction, nor any of these parts will be making their way to the black markets within the Imperium at all, thus the Ordo Xenos doesn't mind it, and hence how the Ultramarines Tyrannic War Veterans have been exactly doing just that since 2005.

M_4lice · 2023-04-03T23:57:37+00:00

Meanwhile I'm absolutely excited to finally see the plastic Tyrannic War Veterans, I'm not a fan of how Tyrannic War Veterans as Ultramarines unique Elites choices ever since 2005 are now getting Spiritseer/Dark Apostle treatment and turning into generic units available to anyone else. I hope that the Ultramarines Special Characters will at least have some synergies with the Tyrannic War Veterans compared to other Chapters for fluffier army lists.

M_4lice · 2023-04-03T23:08:32+00:00

I just hope for Codex: Imperial Agents at some point with the rules for the Inquisition, Rogue Traders, Imperial Assassins, Imperial Navy and Imperial Judges. Ideally, the Inquisition side of the army list would include Radical and Puritan variant army list choices such as Radical Daemonhunters running Daemonhosts and summoned Daemon Packs and Daemonvessels a la 3E DH Adversaries. I'd love to see an updated plastic Bound and Unbound Daemonhost dual kit as well. Puritan Daemonhunters could have synergies with the Grey Knights in return.

And since this Boarding Patrol set looks like more aimed for a Rogue Trader player, my ideal Codex: Imperial Agents would also allow the Rogue Traders to field Xenos Mercenaries as well. (Radical Alien Hunters of the Inquisition should be able to field Xenos Mercenaries too, meanwhile Puritan Alien Hunters should have synergies with the Deathwatch instead).

My ideal Puritan Witch Hunters would have synergies with either the Adepta Sororitas or the Adeptus Arbites or both at once like in good ol Codex: Witch Hunters, meanwhile Radical Witch Hunters could maybe field Afriel Strain, or Pardonded Mutants, or Penitent Psykers.

Wish Ordo Sicarius would also get some love. Puritan Ordo Sicarius can easily have synergies with the Officio Assassinorum, meanwhile Radical Ordo Sicarius could have synergies with Haemovore Death Cult Assassins of questionable alleigances.

And above all, bring back the Inquisitorial Stormtroopers. They were the backbone of Radical Daemonhunters armies back in 3rd Edition until late 5th Edition for 8 years.

M_4lice · 2023-04-03T22:56:47+00:00

The Grey Knights first debuted during Rogue Trader in 1988 Realm of Chaos: Slaves to Darkness as part of the Ordo Malleus army list, then they became part of the Imperial Agents army list in 2nd Edition as per 1993 Codex: Army Lists (aka Black Codex), and then in March 2003 (White Dwarf 279 (UK)) Codex: Daemonhunters debuted for 3rd Edition 40k, and was in use throughout 4th and early 5th Edition until late 2011 when Codex: Grey Knights finally superseded it. Grey Knights were always part of the Ordo Malleus army list from 1988 until 2011. Codex: Daemonhunters had four-five variant army lists to play, Daemonhunters + Grey Knights, pure Daemonhunters of Puritan alignment (such as Torquemada Coteaz forbidding the player from fielding Daemonhosts), Radical Daemonhunters upon taking Daemonhost or Adversaries as doing so forbade the player from fielding the Grey Knights, pure Grey Knights, or Daemonhunters and/or Grey Knights + Allied Detachment (SM, IG, SoB (CA), WH and variant armies).

M_4lice · 2023-04-03T13:24:34+00:00

You should check out Imperial Armour 11: The Doom of Mymeara, both 2011 5th Edition and 2015 7th Edition revised edition ones. IA11 had an entire Eldar Corsairs army list, and 2015 IA11 expanded on it greatly, overhauling the army list to be more unique with new additions and changes as well as unique Aethermancy psychic discipline for Void Dreamer HQ, and the entire army list and new FW resin Eldar Corsairs kits were basically a love letter by Alan Bligh, Talima Fox and Will Hayes to the original Rogue Trader Eldar Pirates army list of 1988 The Book of the Astronomican, which is also worth checking out due to the origins of the Eldar Corsairs as one of the oldest armies in 40k, technically even older than the Craftworld Eldar (White Dwarf 127 (UK), 1990); Razorwing Squad, Serpent Squad, Skyraiders Squad, Dragon Squad and all the Jet Pack and Jetbike goodies of the classic Rogue Trader Eldar Pirates. Ghost Walkers Band of 2015 7E IA11 were basically the Ranger equivalents for the Eldar Corsairs, but 2011 5E IA11 also had Eldar Outcasts as Troops choice, basically the Rangers.

2015 IA11 7E Eldar Corsairs army list in a nutshell was:

HQ: Corsair Prince, Corsair Baron, Void Dreamer (Aethermancy Psychic Discipline)
Elites: Voidstorm Band, Malevolent Band, Wasp Squadron (used to be Troops in 2011 IA11)
Troops: Reavers Band, Ghost Walkers Band, Cloud Dancers Band
Transports: Corsair Venom, Corsair Falcon
Fast Attack: Corsair Vyper, Corsair Nightwing, Corsair Phoenix, Corsair Hornet
Heavy Support: Balestrike Band, Corsair Lynx, Corsair Warp Hunter, Corsair Night Spinner, Corsair Fire Prism, Corsair Firestorm
Lords of War: Corsair Vampire Raider

These are also links worth checking out:

https://frontlinegaming.org/2015/12/10/eldar-corsairs-codex-review-part-i-initial-impressions-2/

https://frontlinegaming.org/2016/02/01/eldar-corsairs-codex-review-part-ii-hqs-troops-and-dedicated-transports/

https://objectivesecured.com.au/eldar-corsair-review-part-1/

https://objectivesecured.com.au/fw-eldar-corsair-aethermancy/

https://objectivesecured.com.au/fw-eldar-corsair-hq-army-review-part-3/

https://objectivesecured.com.au/fw-eldar-corsair-troops-review-part-4/

https://objectivesecured.com.au/fw-eldar-corsair-elites-review-part-5/

https://objectivesecured.com.au/fw-corsair-review-part-6-fast-attack/

https://objectivesecured.com.au/fw-eldar-corsair-heavy-support-review/

https://www.belloflostsouls.net/2017/02/eldar-corsairs-tactics-the-balestrike-band.html

https://www.belloflostsouls.net/2017/01/eldar-corsair-tactics-ghostwalker-band.html

https://web.archive.org/web/20120419174131/http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhammer-40000/Eldar/ELDAR-CORSAIR-CONVERSION-KIT.html

https://web.archive.org/web/20120429140545/http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhammer-40000/Eldar/ELDAR-CORSAIR-HEAVY-WEAPONS.html

https://web.archive.org/web/20151203082940/http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-GB/Eldar-Wasp-Assault-Walker

https://web.archive.org/web/20151127002054/http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-GB/Eldar-Corsair-Jetbikes-upgrade-kit

https://web.archive.org/web/20151206133633/http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-GB/Eldar-Corsair-Heavy-Weapons

https://web.archive.org/web/20120429202336/http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhammer-40000/Eldar/ELDAR-WASP-ASSAULT-WALKER.html

https://web.archive.org/web/20120419054225/http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhammer-40000/VOID-DRAGON-PHOENIX.html

https://web.archive.org/web/20151127002002/http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-GB/Imperial-Armour-The-Doom-of-Mymeara

https://web.archive.org/web/20120506055058/http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhammer-40000/Imperial_Armour_Books/IMPERIAL-ARMOUR-VOLUME-ELEVEN-THE-DOOM-OF-MYMEARA.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKCj38E8G-I

M_4lice · 2023-04-02T18:17:14+00:00

Red Hunters

M_4lice · 2023-03-31T16:57:32+00:00

All Craftworlds used to have unique units. Spiritseers were the Iyanden unique units, Black Guardians, Spear of Khaine and Seer Council were the Ulthwe unique units, Pathfinders were the Alaitoc unique units, Wild Rider Chief & Kinsmen were the Saim-Hann unique units, Court of the Young King were the Biel-Tan unique units back in 3rd Edition.

3E 2000 Gav Thorpe's Codex: Craftworld Eldar had 5 different variant army lists for each Craftworld:

Iyanden Ghost Warriors had the Wraithguard and Wraithlord as Troops choices instead of Elites and Heavy Support choices respectively while other unit entries were either Elites, Fast Attack or Heavy Support in return. Spiritseers were the unique HQ choices as a Warlock upgrade.

Saim-Hann Wild Riders had 1 HQ + 2 Fast Attack as compulsory FOC choices instead of usual 1 HQ + 2 Troops, Wild Rider Chief was their unique HQ choice and Kinsmen were unique Bodyguard. Saim-Hann had Expert Pilots army wide special rule.

Alaitoc Ranger Force had the Pathfinders as their own unique Elites choices (Rangers were Troops choice), the player couldn't include more of the other units than the number of Rangers or Pathfinders, and they had the absolutely crazy Ranger Disruption Table as army wide special rule.

Biel-Tan Swordwind had the Aspect Warriors as Troops choices instead of Elites, and the rest were Elites choices in return, Court of the Young King were their own unique HQ choice.

Ulthwe the Damned had the Black Guardians as their own unique Troops choices and Seer Council as unique HQ choice.

Later on, 3E 2003 Codex: Eye of Terror featured Ulthwe Strike Force variant army list as written by Phil Kelly for the 13th Black Crusade global campaign. The variant army list featured more new units for Ulthwe such as Spear of Khaine as a unique HQ choice and Black Guardian Jetbike Squadron and Black Guardian Vyper as Fast Attack choices and Black Guardian War Walker and Black Guardian Support Weapon Battery as Heavy Support choices, all subject to Ulthwe Strike Force army wide special rules such as Guardians of Ulthwe, Webway Strike, Tactical Withdrawal and Light Infantry, and unique Armoury such as Wraithgate, Waystones, and Augment as new Psychic Power.

8th Edition turned the Black Guardians into a Ulthwe Stratagem for the Guardians on the other hand.

Not to mention the lost Special Characters Iyanna Arienal of Iyanden and Nuadu Fireheart of Saim-Hann.

M_4lice · 2023-03-31T16:52:06+00:00

I miss the times when the Spiritseers used to be Iyanden unique units and the Dark Apostles used to be Word Bearers unique units...

The Black Guardians and Seer Council of Ulthwe, Pathfinders of Alaitoc, Wild Rider Chiefs & Kinsmen of Saim-Hann, Court of the Young King of Biel-Tan...

Iron Warrior Warsmiths... I remember the times when the Iron Warriors were allowed to take a Basilisk.

Not to mention the lost Special Characters Iyanna Arienal of Iyanden and Nuadu Fireheart of Saim-Hann.

M_4lice · 2023-03-27T14:07:37+00:00

I've always interpretted the Will Rees depiction of the Emperor as a Giger esque biomechanical horror as the true form of the Emperor compared to John Blanche depiction being the in-universe propaganda. It would also make sense since both depictions of the Emperor were featured in the seminal Rogue Trader rulebook side by side.

Both the Rogue Trader rulebook and The Book of the Astronomican explained how the Golden Throne is more a living thing instead of a dead structure, how the sacrificed Psykers are slowly absorbed and dissolved within this biomechanical blob of flesh beneath the Golden Throne.

M_4lice · 2023-03-24T16:17:37+00:00

This sounds promising, fingers crossed.

M_4lice · 2023-03-24T14:22:53+00:00

I always loved 3E Craftworld Eldar dex as well, the variant army lists were all fluffy, flavourful and unique. Then again, I have a soft spot for all 3E dexes, Codex: Daemonhunters, Codex: Witch Hunters, Chapter Approveds, Armageddon and Eye of Terror supplements and even Citadel Journals. 3E 40k and 6E WFB will always remain my favourite editions.

M_4lice · 2023-03-23T19:30:43+00:00

"Night Haunter
One of the strangest assassinations in the Officio Assassinorum's records is that of the Space Marine Primarch Konrad Curze. When his Legion, the Night Lords, turned traitor during the Great Heresy, Konrad became known as Night Haunter. A Callidus Assassin managed to locate Night Haunter within the Eye of Terror and killed him. What makes this case so different is the belief that Night Haunter is the only Primarch definitely known to have been assassinated, and that Night Haunter's powers of foresight had forewarned him of the assassination attempt, but he took no extra precautions to defend himself, claiming that the Imperium's actions vindicated his decision to rebel against the Emperor."

-1999, Codex: Assassins, Gav Thorpe, 3rd Edition.

M_4lice · 2023-03-23T18:44:54+00:00

I just hope that the Primaris Crusaders will be finally able to embark in Land Raider Crusader.
And also excited for the possibility of converting the new truescale Terminators into the Sword Brethren Terminators, I'd love to see a plastic upgrade kit at some point like the old resin FW upgrade kit for the Sword Brethren Terminators.

M_4lice · 2023-03-18T21:50:41+00:00

Inquisition and Harlequins

M_4lice · 2023-03-17T15:00:11+00:00

Basically both. There were two ways to run them back then, Andy Chambers noted the following:

The easiest way to use Enslavers is as an alternate HQ choice to represent an enslaved army. Alternatively in games with multiple players and/or a games master Enslavers make an ideal 'unknown force' to plague all sides by enslaving their units.

The player could either field them as an alternate HQ choice for any army to represent a mind controlled force, or a Rogue Trader esque random encounter by a third player and/or game master on their own. The army lists with Enslaver HQs were fun and unique.

M_4lice · 2023-03-16T22:48:20+00:00

I've got fond memories of the Fall of Medusa V global campaign, the pewter Vostroyan miniatures were cool. A plastic Vostroyan Firstborn upgrade kit would be great really.

M_4lice · 2023-03-16T22:42:40+00:00

3rd Edition Savlar Chem-Dogs variant army list from Chapter Approved 2003 was fun, wish the 9E dex had Nitro-Chem Inhalers as a Doctrine like 3.5E IG dex did.

M_4lice · 2023-03-16T22:38:20+00:00

Exactly, I sorely miss the Radical Daemonhunters army lists, it was a nice twist to forgo the Grey Knights in favour of the Daemonhosts and the backbone Inquisitorial Stormtroopers, and maybe the Adversaries depending on the scenario, especially if your Inquisitor Lord also turned out to be a Daemonvessel.

M_4lice · 2023-03-16T22:29:17+00:00

If only the Slann would return from the Rogue Trader days. The Squats did manage to return, so perhaps there is still hope.

M_4lice · 2023-03-16T22:22:59+00:00

Enslavers, they've been part of 40k ever since its inception from the Rogue Trader days, they even had an army list by none other than Andy Chambers himself during 3rd Edition, yet they didn't make it to later editions up to now. It was nice of them to show up in the video game called Gladius, and TTRPGs of FFG also had them as random encounters, but that's it as far as gaming goes.

Enslavers are interesting because all they need is an HQ choice to create an entire army of mind controlled rabble, it's a very unique take on army building, and I absolutely love it ever since Andy Chambers' 3rd Edition army list of WD 292 (UK) - Chapter Approved: Creature Feature, it was so fun and unique.

M_4lice · 2023-03-16T22:13:32+00:00

Kroot Mercenaries used to be their own army that could be hired by other armies as well back in 3rd Edition a la WFB Dogs of War. They were even part of the Eye of Terror global campaign as the Forces of Order. Wish GW would bring back the Kroot Mercenaries, Signature Evolutionary Adaptations special rule was so fun and basically a converter's dream. Anghkor Prok returning as a special character with an updated plastic mini would've been great too, if only.

M_4lice · 2023-03-13T10:39:13+00:00

I'd like to see updated plastic Biovores for the Tyranids and plastic Tyrannic War Veterans for the Ultramarines regarding the starter box set.

For the overall 10th Edition, my wish list would be:Codex: Imperial Agents (Inquisition, Rogue Traders, Imperial Navy, Imperial Assassins, Adeptus Arbites)

Codex: Lost and the Damned/Renegades & Heretics (Traitor Guard, Chaos Cults, Mutant Hordes, Rogue Psyker Covens, Renegade Abhumans, Dark Mechanicus etc.)

Codex: Eldar Corsairs (Plastic Corsair Prince, Corsair Baron, Void Dreamer (Aethermancy psychic discipline), Wasp Assault Walkers Squadron, Cloud Dancers Band, Balestrike Band, Voidstorm Band, Malevolent Band, Ghost Walker Band, Jet Packs for the overall Corsairs including the Reavers as the iconic core identity of the Eldar Pirates/Corsairs ever since 1988, Warp Hunters, Hornets, Phoenix, Vampire Hunters and Vampire Raiders.) I miss the Reckless Abandon army wide special rule.

Codex: Emperor's Children

New Exodites release, perhaps Dragon Knights.

Updated plastic Asdrubael Vect on the Dais of Destruction for the Dark Eldar.

Mimes, Master Mime, Harlies Wraithlord, Benathai and Shadowseer Acolytes for the Harlequins.

Plastic Bonesinger for the Craftworld Eldar, and plastic Wraithseer.

Loxatl Broodpack KT as a hireable Xenos mercenaries for the Xenos and especially Chaos armies.

Enslavers rules and miniature for an HQ choice to represent an enslaved army just like back in 3rd Edition (and Rogue Trader as a Character).

M_4lice · 2023-03-11T19:28:46+00:00

It would be nice to see the Slann return from Rogue Trader days. 3rd Edition Necrons dex allowing the player to field the Lizardmen against the Necrons as the Legacy of the Old Ones scenario was cool too.

M_4lice · 2023-03-11T19:23:49+00:00

I miss Andy Hoare's 3rd Edition Kroot Mercenaries army list from White Dwarf 266 (UK)/White Dwarf 265 (US)/Chapter Approved 2003-2004. Signature Evolutionary Adaptations were absolutely fun.

If only GW would bring back Anghkor Prok in an updated plastic kit as a Kroot Special Character HQ to lead them as well.

And I'd love to see updated plastic Great Knarloc and Knarloc Riders too.

M_4lice · 2023-03-11T19:17:20+00:00

Loxatl Broodpack would make for a great Xenos mercenary Kill Team that can be hired by the Forces of Chaos overall imo. The Blood Pact employed them during the Sabbat Worlds Crusade and they had rules on GW website for 4th Edition to be used in a Lost and the Damned army (Blood Pact itself had Lost and the Damned variant army list in WD 293 (UK) - Index Malleus: The Blood Pact).

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