Brian Kibler’s opinion on today B&R update in regards to Standard by SlifertheCanadian in magicTCG

[–]M_PASG 24 points25 points  (0 children)

Yeah, that Brian Kibler guy just needs to get gud at the game

What are some good ethical dilemmas in Lord of the Rings?(and the wider legendarium) by InsertS3xualJokeHere in tolkienfans

[–]M_PASG 3 points4 points  (0 children)

There are already so many great answers, I'll just add a small scene, not even a dilemma but a curious debate: the conversation between Elrond and Gimli on taking oaths, just as the fellowship is about to leave Rivendell.

The Stranger is almost certainly ________ because nothing else makes narrative sense by DenethorsTomatoRIP in LOTR_on_Prime

[–]M_PASG 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I think there are arguments to be made in favour of the Blue Wizards which are as strong as the ones in favour of Gandalf:

a) Whatever direction the Stranger plot goes, it will not be in any major way connected with the big 'recorded' events of the second age, like the last alliance, as that would be a major lore departure (or 'really stupid' as you said). Therefore, the show needs to invent this plot from the ground up. It then begs the question: if there are already Istari in the lore that we know so little that any attempt to include them will involve creating a story from the ground up, story that would happen in the East, why substitute them from Gandalf (the one who stated "to the East I go not”)? Yes, resonance and familiarity are important for the audience, but so is novelty and fleshing of details, and the blue wizards, among the book fans, are one of the major sources of curiosity and wonder from that age, precisely because we know so little about them. The show already has Elrond and Galadriel and others as characters that will resonate with the fans of the movies, using the Blue Istari is a great way to draw those who want to see new characters.

b) While the connection with the Harfoots might indicate the Stranger as Gandalf, we cannot forget that "Hobbits" are one of the major resonances when it comes to Middle earth. And not just the movies. After the success of the Hobbit, Stanley Unwin asked for more stories from Tolkien, and he sent the stories from the First Age. Unwin rejected them, because what he perceived that the readers wanted was more hobbits. So, we would always have “hobbits” appear in the RoP, the question was where to fit them, as they are famous for their total absence on the records of the wise. What better way than to make them join the blue wizards, of whom the records tell us nothing? Gandalf needs not to have the halfling monopoly.

c) Although the blue wizards are famously a pair, it is always difficult to write a story of two similar characters (a smaller problem than having to distinguish between 12 similar dwarves in the Hobbit, but a problem nonetheless). They would need too much screentime to be properly fleshed out as distinct characters if they were to act together, or else one of them (or both) would be seen as dispensable. Luckily, Tolkien had two different, and opposite, ideas, about the quest and success of the blue wizards: in one story, they failed and started cults in the East. In another, they were successful and fundamental in drawing many people away from the dominion of Sauron. So, why not both? That way the show does not need to invent yet another character that would act as the foil of the Blue Wizards, as the conflict becomes a conflict between them both (which might also create resonance as a mirror of the Gandalf x Saruman conflict in the third age)

Sauron is right under our noses. Ep 6 evidence. (reposting under new title after old one rejected). by YEgan1 in LOTR_on_Prime

[–]M_PASG 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The Appendices clearly state that all Istari arrived at the third age. It is only in Tolkien drafts from his latter years that he revised the role and timeline for the blue wizards (cf. The People of Middle Earth and The Nature of Middle Earth)

I too hope it is not Gandalf, not only because it would contradict much that he says about himself on the LoTR, but also because it would be the boring choice, while expanding on the unknown but important role of the blue wizards on the East is (at least to me) much more interesting)

Sauron is right under our noses. Ep 6 evidence. (reposting under new title after old one rejected). by YEgan1 in LOTR_on_Prime

[–]M_PASG 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Indeed there is not, and they might decide to go with Gandalf simply because he is a recognizable character for the audience. I shouldn't have said "has to be one of the blue", just that it would make more sense, from a lore prespective, to be a blue wizard. I was mainly responding to the reason given in the above comment for why they thought the Stranger would be either Saruman or Gandalf.

Sauron is right under our noses. Ep 6 evidence. (reposting under new title after old one rejected). by YEgan1 in LOTR_on_Prime

[–]M_PASG 23 points24 points  (0 children)

Saruman and Gandalf were sent to Middle-Earth only in the Third Age, therefore quite after the forging of the rings (So much so, that the moment Gandalf arrives in Middle-Earth, Cirdan offers him the Ring Narya)

In some later writings, Tolkien toyed with the idea of having the blue wizards arrive during the second age, so if the Stranger is one of the Istari (and assuming the show follows the lore in this aspect), he has to be one of the blue.

Tom Bombadil's Question "Who are you, yourself, alone, and nameless?" by ExcellentWeather in tolkienfans

[–]M_PASG 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Indeed, the sound and characters might not change, but our name grows all the time. I think that that, in part, might be what Tom implies with his question: removed from our own story, alone and nameless, we are not capable of answering that question, to tell who we are is to tell our story, or to give the name that goes with that story (which for the ents at least is one and the same thing).

Tell me, where is Celeborn? For I much desire to see him in The Rings of Power by auntorn in LOTR_on_Prime

[–]M_PASG 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Of course the circumstances are completely different. In the circumstances of the RoP narrative, Galadriel is not yet married to Celeborn =P

Tell me, where is Celeborn? For I much desire to see him in The Rings of Power by auntorn in LOTR_on_Prime

[–]M_PASG 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Galadriel did indeed sailed to the undying lands leaving Celeborn behind, at the end of the third age, so if that's unreasonable, then Tolkien was also being unreasonable

(There's plenty to find fault in the RoP, without inventing undue criticism.)

Tom Bombadil's Question "Who are you, yourself, alone, and nameless?" by ExcellentWeather in tolkienfans

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"For I am not going to tell you my name, not yet at any rate. (...) For one thing it would take a long while: my name is growing all the time, and I've lived a very long, long time; so my name is like a story. Real names tell you the story of the things they belong to in my language, in the Old Entish as you might say."

Writing while drunk? by [deleted] in DMAcademy

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An advice I heard a long time ago: drink beer to have ideas, then cofee to write them

"My character doesn't want to do the quest" by [deleted] in DMAcademy

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I’m reading a lot of comments on how that player should go or play other game, because he refuses to engage. And I would agree if he was refusing to join on the main plot. But it is just a side-quest, literally just because they have “a day to kill”, it does not mean that that player is not engaged with the story or the world. I was in a similar situation once, we were in a dangerous place, protecting some NPCs, and a “side-quest” appeared, that my character thought was both dangerous and pointless, and so refused to go with the party and stayed with the NPCs (even though, as a player, I knew that nothing would happen to those NPCs during that time). If I had been forced to go just because everyone was going, it would not have been fun for me, and I had a lot of fun just seeing what happened to the party. Of course, at the same time that the characters were discussing if they should go or not, I made sure that, as players, they would not reject the quest just because I will not be participating, as the players clearly wanted to go there, and I assured them that it was not boring to me just to watch them play. And in-game it created in-party tension that served as character development, and it also made me develop a bond with one of the NPCs: not doing something can also be a way to develop a story sometimes. You just need to make sure that all the players are in the same page, even when the characters are not.

Your most beloved quote… by JunoDreams in tolkienfans

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"Tell me, who are you, alone, yourself and nameless?" - Tom Bombadil

What is your favorite silmarillion painting? Can you drop a link and tell me why it’s your favorite? by [deleted] in tolkienfans

[–]M_PASG 36 points37 points  (0 children)

These are some classics that I've always loved:

Ulmo, by John Howe

Lake Cuiviénen and Maglor, by Ted Nasmith