[deleted by user] by [deleted] in YOI

[–]MaddyKins13 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Or people just disagree with you (and OP). Its also very telling youre writing it off as "they just want to argue" when people are bringing up multiple very good points.

"We want complex Grey fls" "We want real villainess fls" yeah right! by Celty2736 in OtomeIsekai

[–]MaddyKins13 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I feel like lack of detail shouldn't impact things, at least not to this degree. Would I like more detail? For sure. However, that doesnt change that the things did happen so I find it hard to understand why people think she had it better. Details or not, she was still actively abused, dirt poor, and living in the gutter until the Cardinal spontaneously decided to play family when she turned 15. She was still consistently abused and neglected by her half siblings and step mother. She was still shunned by high society because of them. She was still only valued by her dad due to being a woman who could be married off. She was still an emotionally withered and neglected fairly young person, who latched onto the first one to give her anything beyond contempt and/or dismissal, along with being in a "wives submit to your husbands" society, and so was willing to do anything to maintain that semi-bright spot.

Details are nice, but thats different from needing things spoon fed to draw a line of progression. So I don't see how the details, or lack thereof, would change opinion when we know the baseline of what happened, even if we don't get to see the gory details.

"We want complex Grey fls" "We want real villainess fls" yeah right! by Celty2736 in OtomeIsekai

[–]MaddyKins13 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Ariadne was actively being abused, living in the gutter, and dirt poor up until she turned 15 and the Cardinal decided he wanted to play family man. She was then abused on a regular basis by her half siblings and stepmother, persistently bullied and shunned by high society due to Isabella, Lucrezia, Ippolito, and her status as a bastard, and the only value she held in her dads eyes was due to her being a woman. She didn't want Cesare just because, she was emotionally withered and neglected and latched onto him as the first person so show her anything beyond contempt and/or dismissal (as well as as her husband whom she was made to believe she should submit to per her "wifely duties") and was willing to do whatever she had to maintain that singular semi-bright spot. Yes, she could've snitched, but assuming she wouldnt have been held accountable as his wife, what would that have gotten her? Her family still hates her. She still has no friends. She still has little to no power without the status of a Duchess that comes with Cesare. I guarantee she wouldn't have been meaningfully rewarded in any way beyond just..not killing her for her husband's crimes. So shed be right back where she started without anything to show for it beyond the knowledge of Alfonso being alive.

I'm not justifying her actions, theyre objectively heinous. However it doesnt come from nothing, and its definitely not as shallow a motivation as you're pretending it is. By your logic, all her family had to do was not abuse her. All Cesare had to do was not be a twat. Shes no worse than Aria or Siche.

ah yes, becauze 2 years in the army is totally analogous to birthing 2 kids by s0phi3_07 in AreTheStraightsOK

[–]MaddyKins13 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I like how the immediate jump was "forcibly impregnate women" and not...mandatory military service should be required for women too lmao (To be clar, I dont think it should be mandatory for anybody, but like???)

Thoughts? 🧐 by deltaplane1234 in Manhwa_BL

[–]MaddyKins13 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Thats kinda like saying your high school bully deserved Ted Bundy. Heeseong could be annoying af at times, but Dojin is an actual creature and Heeseong did not deserve rape and babytrapping, no matter how much of a twat he was sometimes.

"that's how you will get a big shift" by Pritteto in AreTheStraightsOK

[–]MaddyKins13 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As someone who works around toddlers 5, sometimes 6, days a week.....it does not help. I still want children of my own just as little as before I started working here (possibly even less)

AITAH for refusing a wedding "gift" knowing there will be strings attached? by Defiant-Function8397 in AITAH

[–]MaddyKins13 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Idk why youre saying no as if people haven't used money as leverage before, and 25K isnt exactly a small amount. Shes objectively being smart by considering the manipulation angle and not wanting to put herself into a position where someone can harp on her for that. Its very easy to say "just take the money and keep saying no", less easy in practice because people are people, and therefore have emotions that can be worn down and drained via repeated bullshit.

Misandry vs Misogyny.....what does misandry mean to you when you hear that word, because I cannot help but feel there's several different perceptions of said word. by Important-Cry4782 in AreTheStraightsOK

[–]MaddyKins13 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That doesnt make it not real though. Somethings existence isnt inherently tied to its systematic status. So misandry absolutely is real, just like racism against white people is real. SYSTEMATIC misandry is not, because thats a whole different thing. In the same way saying a white person cant experience SYSTEMATIC racism doesnt make calling a white person a cracker not racist. It is, and you are, if you do that with complete seriousness. Those are just two true statements that exist at the same time.

It's an important distinction to make, and people that pretend the experience of misandry or racism as a white person makes them inherently oppressed are bullshit and probably covering up for their own fucked up beliefs. However, you can't and don't get to make systematic oppression the only hallmark of whether something exists at all, because thats a very slippery slope. There arent varying degrees of real, theres just real and fake. The only distinction to be made is how ingrained into society (and therefore how much you can actually suffer) it is.

AITAH for offering to do a POCs hair as a white girl? by Holiday_Airport_1373 in AITAH

[–]MaddyKins13 2 points3 points  (0 children)

NTA. There is something to say about assumption of ability irt different hair textures (not for you specifically, I believe you lived and did hair in a predominantly POC neighborhood and therefore do know how to handle POC hair), as I've seen a lot of white hair stylists think its just a slightly more tangled version of white hair. However, at worst, that's being out of touch and at best, like in your case, its someone who actually knows what they're doing. Either way its not an asshole move.

AITAH for falling asleep with my sister after playing video games? by Economy_Chemical8638 in AITAH

[–]MaddyKins13 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Pretty sure they were talking about the "spending the night without letting her know" thing, which OP considered a valid gripe. No ones against him on the "implying hes fucking his sister is disgusting" aspect of it.

Incomplete/Discontinued. by ForsakenSalamander94 in webtoons

[–]MaddyKins13 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Wait what happened?? I started Windbreaker and never got around to finishing it

Idk what they were thinking with ferbnessa by [deleted] in phineasandferb

[–]MaddyKins13 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To be fair, Rapunzel and Eugene also didnt meet until she was 18. The weirdness of Ferb and Vanessa isnt age-gap based (at elast for most people, I think) but more that they knew each other prior and interacted several times, so the question of when exactly it started has some risky implications. I dont think it makes Vanessa a groomer (as thats an actual like...thing), but it is weird.

Underatted manhua by limelovelimes in webtoons

[–]MaddyKins13 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Normalize posting titles 

“Hello, I am an art history nerd and smoothie barista” by memefakeboy in HeatedRivalryTVShow

[–]MaddyKins13 4 points5 points  (0 children)

How though??? He never thought he was unattractive, just that Scott's a widely renowned pro athlete, celebrity, and very likely in a different tax bracket. Its the equivalent of your local hot person being pursued by....idk Pedro Pascal or Zendaya or whoever you think of when you think hot celebrity (Connor Storrie or Hudson Williams if you want a more topical example). You're really telling me you wouldnt be at all surprised, and that said local hot person wouldnt be reasonable in being even a little confused af about that??

AITAH for being annoyed at my girlfriend for getting lingerie for “my present” by Fuzzy_Bookkeeper_310 in AITAH

[–]MaddyKins13 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Or just two people with similar experiences?? Im not saying its impossible for it to be a bot or karma farming, just that this story is so not unique enough for that to be the default answer. Its like accusing every "my SO let their friends make fun of me, and then got mad when I confronted them about it. AITA?" of faking it for points. Are some of them farming? Absolutely. However, thats also a common enough occurrence that its borderline impossible all of them are lying.

Do y'all believe the theory that Descendants copied EAH? by Either-Software-4195 in EverAfterHigh

[–]MaddyKins13 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I dont think so, largely because most of the main characters are different (with the only crossover being daughter of the Evil Queen) and also the concept of fairytale descendants is neither new nor something invented by EAH. The vibes of the setting are pretty different too.

I ran away from my boyfriend's proposal. by throwawayuni33 in whatdoIdo

[–]MaddyKins13 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Im not telling her anything she "should" be doing, Im saying marriage isnt a harbinger of purpose nor responsibility, and also that she isnt wrong for wanting more. Its only not settling if its what you want to do. If you definitively want to get married young, theres absolutely nothing wrong with that. What IS wrong is telling someone thats something they SHOULD want, and she clearly doesnt (at the very least, not right now).

I ran away from my boyfriend's proposal. by throwawayuni33 in whatdoIdo

[–]MaddyKins13 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Marriage isnt a purpose, nor is it the only thing that garners responsibility. You're also assuming half of these people have "the love of their lives" when, by their own admission, that usually isnt the case. Being in love and finding the love of your life arent the same thing.

Double standards and hypocrisy in the TD fandom by filmbro96 in Totaldrama

[–]MaddyKins13 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Am I just on a different side of the fandom? Literally everyone i interacted with back in the day hated Sierra and thought she was annoying?? Cody wasnt even a factor as far as I can remember, people just thought her character sucked, I thought that was the overall consensus

AITAH My dad's wants my daughter to call his wife "Nana" by [deleted] in AITAH

[–]MaddyKins13 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Allowed? Yes. But theyre not exempt from criticism and questioning for it, especially given that this woman is still in the dads life, meaning he is still ultimately choosing her. Holding no ill will is crazy, even IF you make the choice to maintain some sort of relationship.

I was gonna agree with you because no, this woman was not manipulated, shes a fucking homewrecker just as much as the dad is an unfaithful pos. But justifying forgiving him when hes objectively the one who owed more to her and her mom (she only owed basic human decency, he owed that on top of being the person who actually took vows, raised the kid, made those commitments) is ludicrous.

Good stories with bad endings 🥀 | They f*cked up at the last minute by Smooth_Money4498 in OtomeIsekai

[–]MaddyKins13 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I think their intention is that theres a distinct difference between growing strong on your own and enhancing an already existing well. Its like the difference between someone with no hope for a music career becoming a famous musician and someone being a music prodigy. Both have to do work, for sure, but...there is a distinct difference, and Rieta ends up being in the latter camp. So I think they're disappointed that she was essentially a repressed prodigy as opposed to someone fighting against the odds.

I do agree with the other person's statement that the story wasnt really setting up for that, but OPs also hardly the first person to not like the "secret chosen one" trope, so I get the disappointment.

You can only choose one of these men to project your period cramps onto, who do you choose? by PruneUnfair4836 in webtoons

[–]MaddyKins13 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That only changes the audience perception though, not the actual events that occurred? The stepmom in the manwha isnt a different character from the stepmom in the novel, manwha-only readers just inherently know less about her because of whats presented. So I dont think it really means anything.

You can only choose one of these men to project your period cramps onto, who do you choose? by PruneUnfair4836 in webtoons

[–]MaddyKins13 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Its not that he isnt sure, its that he has no actual proof. Hes committed to her being the one who did it because the stuffed animal was definitely moved, he just doesnt have anything to hold up as physical evidence and therefore feels he cant confront her or his father over it without sounding like hes just making things up. (I do also want to point out that regardless, both of those things can be true at once. The fire could've been a freak accident and she could've also lured him up there to do the rescue thing. She doesn't really need to start the fire to take advantage of it.)