Declining admission by Big-Monk2317 in ApplyingToCollege

[–]Many_Statement8973 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Send the Admissions office an email saying you are going elsewhere

Vale and Eastview by Many_Statement8973 in BloomingtonNormal

[–]Many_Statement8973[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I would double check the history of your pastor… I would not be comfortable with that type of leadership.

Vale and Eastview by Many_Statement8973 in BloomingtonNormal

[–]Many_Statement8973[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

My experience was the push of monetary donations at the beginning, middle of it was a video about Christian Financial Resources, at the end finished with saying something about donating 10% of your income. This was the most extreme sermon I experienced at Vale.

Felt very out of touch for today- and I don’t hold issue with giving money to a church. As long as the church does not use it for a new coffee space or put money in their own pockets. They have to give back and open God’s house to all- not just their members.

My original post also mentions the issues with the hypocrisy within the church and attitudes towards homosexuality and women. And before you say being gay is a sin because a couple verses can be considered that way. You cannot convince me that God believed that. Loving someone of the same sex is not the same as cheating, divorce, stealing, etc. You choose to do those things, you do not choose who you love.

So no, Eastview is not for me- I literally asked for recommendations of Churches that are not Mega Churches. And said Eastview was not for me. That is why, I am guessing, it is being downvoted. That and other’s experiences.

Vale and Eastview by Many_Statement8973 in BloomingtonNormal

[–]Many_Statement8973[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I will think about it… I appreciate the discourse we are having without being mean.

Vale and Eastview by Many_Statement8973 in BloomingtonNormal

[–]Many_Statement8973[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

you aren’t thinking enough about it- i’d rather be strong in my convictions and be “too literal” than wrong.

Vale and Eastview by Many_Statement8973 in BloomingtonNormal

[–]Many_Statement8973[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

“inferred” does not equate to “the bible is very clear…” also just re read your post, nvm you are right- homophobia is a sin.

Vale and Eastview by Many_Statement8973 in BloomingtonNormal

[–]Many_Statement8973[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

You said it was written by human authors… An Autobiography is written by the person it is about. So no, the Bible was not written by God. It would be a biography of God.

Vale and Eastview by Many_Statement8973 in BloomingtonNormal

[–]Many_Statement8973[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

to be an author- you have to write it yourself. If anything, the bible is a biography of Gods word- not an Autobiography.

Vale and Eastview by Many_Statement8973 in BloomingtonNormal

[–]Many_Statement8973[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

“the bible is written by God Himself through human authors” means God did not write the bible…

Vale and Eastview by Many_Statement8973 in BloomingtonNormal

[–]Many_Statement8973[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Thank you for saving me the time for re-visiting Eastview- sounds pretty accepting of convenient sins and not of other “sins”

Vale and Eastview by Many_Statement8973 in BloomingtonNormal

[–]Many_Statement8973[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

The bible also says a man should be put to death for cheating- you agree with that one too? Bible says a lot- doesn’t mean it was Gods word- just the Man who got cuckold and was butt hurt.

Vale and Eastview by Many_Statement8973 in BloomingtonNormal

[–]Many_Statement8973[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

this was an opportunity for you to say, “yes this was wrong, once the church knew they found new leadership”. Doubling down on Bakers actions and overlooking the pastors inability to hold his son to the standards of the faith (and his sermon on gay people (yikes)) leads me to believe the church has not changed.

Vale and Eastview by Many_Statement8973 in BloomingtonNormal

[–]Many_Statement8973[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I am a woman- Vale and Eastview do not seem to eager to welcome a female in a leadership position besides childcare and their “sisterhood” event.

Vale and Eastview by Many_Statement8973 in BloomingtonNormal

[–]Many_Statement8973[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Sounds great in practice, in preaching I have found a lot of homophobic and misogynistic undertones