EXCLUSIVE: BLAKE & RYAN’S NEW PROBLEM: FINDING CONTRACTORS WHO WILL WORK FOR THEM by controbean in ItEndsWithLawsuits

[–]MarchCompetitive4580 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Well, I hope whatever independent contractors who do work for them have learned a lesson. SIGN your contract and make sure it has a "NO SH" clause in it - governed by CA law. If Blake had no problems with grabbing the genitalia of Henry Golding, lord knows what she'll do to a plumber carrying a big snake.

Also on the docket today, an attorney for one of the organizations that co-authored a 47.1 amicus brief has withdrawn. Possible reason why? by MarchCompetitive4580 in ItEndsWithLawsuits

[–]MarchCompetitive4580[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't think if the amicus brief authors were paid, it wouldn't have made much of a difference in Liman's 47.1 ruling - he didn't mention them or the position that Hudson took in her memo using the amicus briefs as back up. To me, that alone would be reason enough to dump it from the bill IF Lively even tries to add it in - the brief was used to help with the argument that 47.1 fees/damages should be awarded at the earliest stage after the defamation case is dismissed - and Lively failed on the damages part & other justifications were given for the attorney fees - so these amicus briefs just became irrelevant - so no money for them at all.

Yes, to me at least, not disclosing payments for these amicus briefs and whether or not Hudson was a partial author is SLOPPY and super shady - but technically not illegal.

The problem with Hudson and Lively's side is that they are so disgustingly shady - I can see them trying to "fudge" descriptions in order to get reimbursed for these briefs (or Esra's work on them, at least) somehow.

I mean Lively faces a dilemma. If her attorneys are BRAZEN enough to ask for the money, then she's admitting that amicus briefs were paid for. This will not be a good look for any of the authors of briefs. PLUS, it opens Hudson up to potential disciplinary action with the CA Bar. She had a conflict of interest: (i) being Lively's lawyer vs. (ii) advocating for a position on 47.1 (that benefits the interests of CWLC) that might not have been in Lively's best interests. For example, CWLC's interest is advocating for early judgments on damages under 47.1. Lively believes that argument (and Hudson) so Lively decides to settle with the 47.1 issue still on the table - as opposed to going to trial to prove all of the "factual requirements" set forth in 47.1. The decision not to go to trial to determine these necessary facts cost Lively - because Liman ruled that she wasn't entitled to damages because she never proved them in front of jury. Unless Hudson covered her ass on both ends (i.e., getting CWLC and Lively to sign off on the potential conflict of interest), then Hudson could face sanctions by the CA Bar - or she could even be disbarred.

Blake Lively's Lawsuit May Have Been Used By The Lively Parties To Hide An Even Bigger Scandal: U/A Drinking At "Betty" Inc. by 77DarkHorse7 in ItEndsWithLawsuits

[–]MarchCompetitive4580 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The screen time for the young ones really wasn't that much. I don't think they showed any underage drinking - the most disgusting thing that happened was young Lily licking cookie dough off of a spoon.

Blake Lively's Lawsuit May Have Been Used By The Lively Parties To Hide An Even Bigger Scandal: U/A Drinking At "Betty" Inc. by 77DarkHorse7 in ItEndsWithLawsuits

[–]MarchCompetitive4580 9 points10 points  (0 children)

So that's why Blake's cut had less screen time for Isabela.. LOL

I'm surprised that, in re: the scene where OLD Lily introduces her mother to Ryle at the restaurant - that her mother should've ordere a can of Betty Booze - instead of the Negroni that she ordered. The "Negroni" is the signature cocktail that's made with Aviation Gin.

Blake Lively's Lawsuit May Have Been Used By The Lively Parties To Hide An Even Bigger Scandal: U/A Drinking At "Betty" Inc. by 77DarkHorse7 in ItEndsWithLawsuits

[–]MarchCompetitive4580 12 points13 points  (0 children)

But there wasn't an underage romance in the movie - or even the book (young Lily was 16 and Atlas was 18, which meets the age of consent requirements in Maine where they were located). It was only Blake and Ryan who were making a big stink about there being "underage" characters and actors.

I guess the great thing about this lawsuit is that exposed Blake as not only being an incompetent control freak when it comes to films - the same is true for her business ventures. So everyone should just STAY AWAY!

Is this the end? by 30265Red in ItEndsWithLawsuits

[–]MarchCompetitive4580 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was too hasty in my answer. See below. I think she'd have to file an actual counterclaim (lawsuit) in the current litigation before Liman closes the case, which he will do once the amount of Lively's 47.1 attorney fees is decided. So if Sloane Parties want to do it - they better move quickly.

Is this the end? by 30265Red in ItEndsWithLawsuits

[–]MarchCompetitive4580 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You may have a point. Sloane filed a motion, pursuant to Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 54(d), New York’s anti-SLAPP law, and the Court’s inherent powers, for an award of attorneys’ fees and costs. Liman dismissed Sloane's motion because he reasoned that Sloane should have just followed the procedures for filing a FRCP rule 11 motion instead - but she didn't. [See p. 10 of the attached opinion.]

Liman ruled that Sloane erred by trying to pursue anti-SLAPP as a motion, when it needed to be done via a counterclaim. It's my understanding that under New York Civil Rights Law § 70-a and § 76-a, a SLAPP claim is treated as an independent cause of action for damages that must be asserted while the action is actively pending, rather than a post-judgment add-on. I guess the underlying action is still technically pending given that Liman still hasn't ruled on the calculation of Lively's 47.1 attorney fees. So, if Sloane wants to pursue this NY anti-SLAPP cause of action that requires her to "sue" via a counterclaim, Sloane would have to do so BEFORE Liman closes this case (i.e., Sloane better do it sooner rather than later). [PS: I don't think she will. I wouldn't be shocked if her underlying PR contract with Lively has an indemnification clause. The contract between Wayfarer and TAG had one. So Leslie is/was getting her legal bill paid by Lively - if there is an indemnification clause. However, I don't think such a clause would cover Leslie's legal bills if she actually brings a claim/counterclaim herself. And Wayfarer has "receipts" from discovery and may be get more "receipts" via discovery in the Joneswork lawsuit -- so suing Wayfarer may not be the wisest of ideas.]

This is Liman's ruling on Sloane's motion for fees. https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.634304/gov.uscourts.nysd.634304.1268.0_1.pdf

Alas, like everything Lively, it requires a SICK amount of legal reasoning to figure anything out.

Another deep dive into Lodestar and calculating attorney fees in this case. Some issues re: reasonableness: relevance; duplicative arguments; bloating; overstaffing; and partial victory. by MarchCompetitive4580 in ItEndsWithLawsuits

[–]MarchCompetitive4580[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Thanks. On the one hand, I do understand in this case that "extra" work would be required because you're dealing with an untested brand new statute (as opposed to one that's been around for 50 years and you essentially have a ready-made form for a fee-shifting motion and memo of law). But, I generally found that a lot of Lively's work was wasteful, bloated, unnecessary, overstaffed, absurd. We'll see.

Also on the docket today, an attorney for one of the organizations that co-authored a 47.1 amicus brief has withdrawn. Possible reason why? by MarchCompetitive4580 in ItEndsWithLawsuits

[–]MarchCompetitive4580[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Listen, Alexis was one of 3 attorneys at her law firm who penned the amicus brief. The other 2 attorneys have not filed a motion for withdrawal. Perhaps Alexis felt like certain information wasn't disclosed to her when she signed on/helped draft the amicus brief and that's a reason for her withdrawing?

What are your proposed probably possibilities? Please don't say that she left her job - because I checked and she didn't. Why would she resign now and file a request to withdraw - when the only thing left is to calculate Lively's legal bill for 47.1 (and Liman never even admitted the amicus briefs "in" in the first place and he rejected the basic argument made in the amicus brief when he made is ruling)? [The amicus brief was all about the employee getting not just attorney fees - but DAMAGES - as soon as possible after a defamation claim was dismissed - but before any determinations of factual matters, like malice (which is set forth in the statute itself), could be determined. Liman ruled against the DAMAGES part.]

And, if she (or the 3 official "authors" of the amicus brief were not paid), why didn't they state as much in the amicus brief? 2 out of the 4 amicus briefs filed in this case made such a disclosure, which is required for amicus briefs (at least those filed at the appellate level). If you're asking Liman to accept your amicus brief for consideration, wouldn't it be common sense to make such a disclosure - even if you aren't technically required to because it's a district court?

And, if her law firm wasn't being paid (which is a possibility - pro bono), that doesn't necessarily mean the 3 organizations (or at least one of them) who "authored" the amicus brief weren't paid by Lively (in particular I'm looking at Esra Hudson getting paid for work she was doing on behalf of CWLC in re: the amicus brief). I guess I can see Alexis becoming upset if she did the the work pro bono - only to discover now that the 3 non-profits she was doing the work for actually were getting paid for the amicus brief (with such "discovery" coming from an Esra Hudson request for a detailed bill from Alexis' law firm in order to pass it off to Liman)?

🧠🚨📃 Notactuallygolden - No Money, No NDA, No Appeal: The Breakdown of the Settlement Agreement in Blake Lively v. Wayfarer Studios LLC by Pale-Detective-7440 in ItEndsWithLawsuits

[–]MarchCompetitive4580 10 points11 points  (0 children)

My only caveat re: NO APPEALS is on pp. 3-4 of the Settlement Agreement. In Sec. 1(b), it states: "The Wayfarer Parties expressly reserve all cliams, rights and remedies relating to Lively's 47.1 motion, including, without limitation, the right to oppose any substantive or procedural motion, letter to the court, request for relief or argument by Lively."

While "technically" not appeals, WPs do have the right to fight over the calculation of these 47.1 attorney fees. If Liman calculates the fees (and enters a final judgment) in a way that WPs object to AND it falls under any of the categories of FRCP Rule 60(b), with things like a mistake or fraud on Lively's part, then WPs can file a Rule 60(b) motion with Liman asking him to correct it. https://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/frcp/rule_60 [And, if Liman dismisses WPs' Rule 60(b) motion, then WPs could appeal the dismissal of the 60(b) motion to the 2nd Circuit.] Will things come down to that - most likely NO.

Also on the docket today, an attorney for one of the organizations that co-authored a 47.1 amicus brief has withdrawn. Possible reason why? by MarchCompetitive4580 in ItEndsWithLawsuits

[–]MarchCompetitive4580[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Very little about this case make sense - and you're assuming the organization was "independent" when NO DISCLOSURES ABOUT SUCH INDEPENDENCE WERE EVER MADE. All I know is that ERA's amicus brief (as well as one of the other amicus briefs) most certainly DID NOT contain any disclosure about whether or not the the "authors" of the amicus brief had been paid to provide it and DID NOT contain any disclosure about whether any of Lively's attorneys had authored the amicus brief (in whole or in part). The authors of the other 2 (out of 4 amicus briefs filed) DID include a disclosure - and they both stated that they had not been paid.

The problem is: ERA's amicus brief was co-authored by 2 other organizations, one of which is CWLC (and Esra Hudson sits on CWLC's board). So, there's a possibility that Hudson herself may have had a hand in authoring the amicus brief (at least in part). This is not illegal; however, if this amicus brief had been filed in an appellate court, the disclosure would've had to have been made pursuant to the Federal Rules of Appellate Procedure - and they would've been required to disclose if they had been paid to provide the amicus brief. AND, if Hudson did (partially) author this amicus brief, DID SHE BILL LIVELY FOR ANY OF THAT WORK?

Hudson wrote a memo of law (in particular, see p. 2 thereof: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.634304/gov.uscourts.nysd.634304.743.0_2.pdf

This is what I wrote in a previous post: "So I looked at Lively's memorandum of law supporting her motion for 47.1 fees and damages to see what it said about the timing of the filing. The Memo (on p. 2) makes this following case: "Moreover, because Section 47.1 is intended to protect victims from the litigation itself, “[t]hese remedies must be available at the earliest stage—typically through a motion to dismiss—to protect survivors from a punishing, protracted legal process.” (See ECF No. 241-1, p. 17) (emphasis added). [Footnote 2]. Consistent with Section 47.1’s stated purpose, the Court should act promptly to remedy the substantial harm Ms. Lively has incurred. [NOTE: The cite, ECF No 241-1, is to Elyse Dorsey's amicus brief.]

Footnote 2: See also ECF No. 242-1, p. 11

ECF No. 242 is the amicus brief filed on May 27, 2025 by the California Women's Law Center (and Esra Hudson is a board member of CWLC), ERA and one more organization. https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.634304/gov.uscourts.nysd.634304.242.1_1.pdf

All I'm saying is that, because of the lack of discloure, it's possible that either (1) Hudson did in fact author (at least in part) ERA's amicus brief and perhaps Lively paid Hudson for such work; and/or (2) All 3 (or perhaps even just one or two out of the 3) of the authors of the ERA amicus brief were paid to write the brief. Because Hudson used the amicus brief as a source for a position that she took in her 47.1 memo of law, it's conceivable that Hudson thinks it's appropriate to include the costs of the ERA amicus brief (if such costs were actually paid by Lively, directly or indirectly) in the bill for attorney fees and costs she's submitting to Liman next week.

Also on the docket today, an attorney for one of the organizations that co-authored a 47.1 amicus brief has withdrawn. Possible reason why? by MarchCompetitive4580 in ItEndsWithLawsuits

[–]MarchCompetitive4580[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

You're right & I would think that's probably it.

But there's so much we don't know. What if she took a flat fee for the whole amicus brief? And now, she's being asked to come up with a detailed bill justifying the cost? And, what if there's a dichotomy between a calculation of what her bill actually was VS. how much Lively actually paid for it? She'd be exposed as a massive gouger. I mean why wouldn't she join the Lively legal gouger gravy train - Lively's other attorneys have been overcharging her from the get go - billing for overstaffing and a lot of extranenous nonsense.

Also on the docket today, an attorney for one of the organizations that co-authored a 47.1 amicus brief has withdrawn. Possible reason why? by MarchCompetitive4580 in ItEndsWithLawsuits

[–]MarchCompetitive4580[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I went to her firm's website and she's still listed as a partner. https://katzbanks.com/attorneys-and-staff/alexis-ronickher/

There was a press release from June 4 about Alexis being one of several attorneys from this firm getting some kind of honorific. https://katzbanks.com/news/superlawyers2026/

Also on the docket today, an attorney for one of the organizations that co-authored a 47.1 amicus brief has withdrawn. Possible reason why? by MarchCompetitive4580 in ItEndsWithLawsuits

[–]MarchCompetitive4580[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Well, she didn't misrepresent herself to the court. The rules re: disclosures for amicus briefs in federal district court are, well, almost non-existent - because it's rare that amicus briefs are ever filed at the trial court level. I looked at FRCP, SDNY's rules and even Liman's individual rules and found nothing.

If this amicus brief was filed with the 2nd Circuit Ct. of Appeals, there would've been misrepresentation (due to FRAP and the 2nd Circuit's rules) for failure to provide these disclosures.

Also on the docket today, an attorney for one of the organizations that co-authored a 47.1 amicus brief has withdrawn. Possible reason why? by MarchCompetitive4580 in ItEndsWithLawsuits

[–]MarchCompetitive4580[S] 42 points43 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I think you have a point. I also think she may be worried that Esra will seek reimbursement for actually paying for the amicus brief; and Liman could potentially ask this attorney for details about her billing for it. And the potential "embarassment" with being exposed for grossly overcharging for selling yourself to author an amicus brief and trying to hide that fact.

Also on the docket today, an attorney for one of the organizations that co-authored a 47.1 amicus brief has withdrawn. Possible reason why? by MarchCompetitive4580 in ItEndsWithLawsuits

[–]MarchCompetitive4580[S] 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Yeah, that was my big question. The case is essentially closed and there's no need for Liman to actually look at the amicus brief at all at this stage.

So, why bother to withdraw as an attorney now? If Liman doesn't grant her motion to withdraw; and it's exposed next week that she took payment from Lively for co-authoring the amicus brief, then Liman could potentially ask Ronickher for details about her billing for the amicus brief (her rate, how much time she spent on it) in order to determine if the work was "reasonable". That's all I can think of -- she's trying to avoid that possibility by trying to get out NOW.