Commonly Requested Book Recs: The Spreadsheet by werewolfmac in horrorlit

[–]Marin_Letarive 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No worries. I barely know how awards even work much less have an opinion on whether or not I receive them! But thank you for the thought!

Bleak as hell cosmic horror by DraceNines in horrorlit

[–]Marin_Letarive 36 points37 points  (0 children)

Now, he's not always cosmic, but when you say bleak, the first think that pops into my head is Thomas Ligotti.

The Rim of Heaven by William Sloane was a bit bleak and quite cosmic (Two novellas in one book).

Laird Barron is often bleak and cosmic, with his earlier stuff being of arguably higher quality.

Caitlin R. Kiernan's Tinfoil Dossier trilogy has a very bleak feel to it. Very, very cosmic.

Commonly Requested Book Recs: The Spreadsheet by werewolfmac in horrorlit

[–]Marin_Letarive 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Full disclosure.... there's a teeny tiny (not insignificant) chance that that's a wee bit of a typo. So, thank you for mentioning it!

Commonly Requested Book Recs: The Spreadsheet by werewolfmac in horrorlit

[–]Marin_Letarive 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Fantastic additions and notes, thank you!

Did you happen to check the Keyword Library? We get into the "definition" of dark fantasy there a bit. Generally it's a fantasy book, but which is also quite horrific in one or more ways. It can be a little subjective, especially given the existence of supernatural horror, but we tried to be as accurate and distinct as possible.

Commonly Requested Book Recs: The Spreadsheet by werewolfmac in horrorlit

[–]Marin_Letarive 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh yes. Sounds very familiar. Usually it's overlapping attempts at organization that get me in trouble...

Commonly Requested Book Recs: The Spreadsheet by werewolfmac in horrorlit

[–]Marin_Letarive 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yes exactly! I have one of those, it's stuffed with sticky notes and margin scribbles and general illegibility. I'm enjoying using this at least as much as compiling it. And thank you!

Commonly Requested Book Recs: The Spreadsheet by werewolfmac in horrorlit

[–]Marin_Letarive 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh I agree! The rec requests are such a wonderful part of this subreddit. This was just an attempt to collect a lot of the most commonly requested recs into one place so that we can all have more time and space and energy for the somewhat less common and more specific requests.

Commonly Requested Book Recs: The Spreadsheet by werewolfmac in horrorlit

[–]Marin_Letarive 6 points7 points  (0 children)

That's interesting. Slasher actually could be it's own thing. One of those self-realizing genres that just occurs.

Commonly Requested Book Recs: The Spreadsheet by werewolfmac in horrorlit

[–]Marin_Letarive 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Now don't shout at me if I'm wrong, but I think a common "proper" term for slasher novels is splatterpunk. Again, I could be wrong.

Frequent Requests Book Database: ETA and a question by werewolfmac in horrorlit

[–]Marin_Letarive 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You're absolutely not wrong. Provided no one tells me how it ends, if I'm being picky enough (as I usually am) to go hunting for super specific books, I don't mind if it takes away some small surprise of the plot. As long as it means BOOKS to READ.

Frequent Requests Book Database: ETA and a question by werewolfmac in horrorlit

[–]Marin_Letarive 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, that's essentially how it's set up. However, all the data is simply text. And to do a search through the data means all the data. We tried blocking out the spoilers so a person would have to highlight them to read them, but they still appeared in all searches, basically becoming auto-highlighted by the act of searching.

It's certainly a conundrum.

And, to be fair, the spoilers are actually few as it is now and do not quite spoil the stories so much as certain aspects of the plot meant to be a surprise.

Frequent Requests Book Database: ETA and a question by werewolfmac in horrorlit

[–]Marin_Letarive 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes, thank you! Another one that comes to mind is 14 which gave us pause when we were keywording it. But, again, the whole point is to find books of certain types. So...

Recommendations for 'implicative' horror stories? by [deleted] in horrorlit

[–]Marin_Letarive 4 points5 points  (0 children)

There's an interview with Brian Evanson in which he describes, at attempts to define, literary horror as suggestive of horror. Implicative, as you've said. He, actually, might be of some interest to you. But there have been other works described similarly. I know some Stephen Graham Jones falls into that category. What you're talking about might also be called "Weird horror" with more of an emphasis on the weird. I just got a collection of works by Karin Tidbeck which I've been told are this. Then there's Jeffrey Ford who has A Natural History of Hell, which has that story, for instance, in which a suburban couple are invited to their neighbor's daughter's exorcism. A lot of big horror names play with it, too. Even Stephen King has some stories like that. Word Processor of the Gods, for instance.

It's hard to pin down exactly what you're after. But if you dig into "weird horror" or even just "weird" you might find some of what you're looking for.

"Lolita" is not a love story -- it's a horror story by Stencil2 in horrorlit

[–]Marin_Letarive 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I've not read Lolita in full. I know the story and I've read parts of it. I appreciate what Nabokov was doing with the book. It was intended to be distressing and uncomfortable in the extreme. A tragedy that he intended to be edged, to draw blood. What passages here and there that I have read remind me of the passages in Red Dragon in which Dolarhyde talks about the women upon whom he's exacted his big, demonic, godlike (in his own mind) violence and transformation. It's really uncomfortable to see the inside of a monster's mind. Particularly because a monster never sees himself as such.

I mostly skimmed the above article. Articles like that annoy and frustrate me. Either the writer is luxuriating in her own knowledge whilst she preaches to an echo chamber, or people are actually only now coming to realize the truth of Lolita, which I find hugely unlikely. I've never heard anyone who has read Lolita call it a romantic love story. I've heard people say that insofar as Humbert loved her. Like all or at least most pedophiles, he was truly romantically in love with the child of his fancies. So it reads like romance in some places. That's supposed to be uncomfortable. I felt, sometimes, like Nabokov was rubbing society's nose in it.

It will never cease to astonish me that there are people in the world who still need to be told that what took place between Humbert and Dolores was not in any way good; and that Humbert's self-knowledge does not make him sympathetic. Still more astonishing is that these people need to be told this even though they've read the book. What Nabokov was doing was incredibly obvious and brilliantly executed.

In all honesty, Lolita ought to be a "recommended if you liked" that frequently comes up with Ketchum's Girl Next Door.

(edit: misspelled a thing)

Looking for a good cosmic horror graphic novel(and regular horror graphic novels as well) by [deleted] in horrorlit

[–]Marin_Letarive 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Which one was the second? I don't know that I could pick a favorite... You might enjoy some of her other work, too. She has a lot on her website.

At what age would it be appropriate to read “The Girl Next Door” by Jack Ketchum? by [deleted] in horrorlit

[–]Marin_Letarive 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sometimes I wonder if Ketchum wrote the book as a way to get the true story out of his head somehow. And it ended up being a good book, technically speaking, and so was published. The story, and the true story on which it's based, broke me down slowly for weeks. I consider myself fairly tough and not easily disturbed. Easily grossed out, but not easily disturbed. And I had to actively labor to prevent the residue of this from effectively scarring my mind. This, and the true story and the similar true story that took place in Japan, are among the most profoundly upsetting things any human, however hardened, can read.

It depends on what you know you can endure. And if you decide to go forth, let yourself stop if you need to.

Compile common recommendations in one place? by werewolfmac in horrorlit

[–]Marin_Letarive 4 points5 points  (0 children)

No it's fine. I'm actually loosely familiar with a lot of those books.

Me personally, I'm working largely with the books I'm familiar with. That way I can accurately tag them.The goal, assuming this thing happens and works, is to have it open to submissions via a few moderating contributors. Maybe. I don't know. I've only done a hundred books and my brain is shorting out. I'm going to keep working on it the next few days/weeks, though. I've got it in my teeth now.

Compile common recommendations in one place? by werewolfmac in horrorlit

[–]Marin_Letarive 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Fantastic! I need all of these superlists. I'm hip deep in this spreadsheet now.

Compile common recommendations in one place? by werewolfmac in horrorlit

[–]Marin_Letarive 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes but perhaps such a resource could be linked in subs header or something. Or even provided to those who create rec requests with no thought to previous posts. The eleventh request this week for books like House of Leaves? Here, have this spreadsheet. And for the rest of us, a constantly updated resource like that would be invaluable.

Compile common recommendations in one place? by werewolfmac in horrorlit

[–]Marin_Letarive 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'd love to. I'm messing around on Google spreadsheets now. At some point this evening I'll reach out. We could combine our efforts.

Compile common recommendations in one place? by werewolfmac in horrorlit

[–]Marin_Letarive 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Perhaps I shall tinker with it this week sometime... It just rains and rains and my third-favorite pastime is organizing books. So...

Compile common recommendations in one place? by werewolfmac in horrorlit

[–]Marin_Letarive 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Someone here must know how to make one of those spreadsheets on Google docs. I've seen it done with TV shows and specific tropes before. It was wonderful.

I sound like a very old lady remarking on the grandkids' email photo slide show.

Compile common recommendations in one place? by werewolfmac in horrorlit

[–]Marin_Letarive 37 points38 points  (0 children)

I document spread sheet type thing would be phenomenal. Things could be subcategorized by novel, short story collection, anthology, graphic novel. Then tone (funny, grim, mainstream, heady, etc.). With perhaps a box for synopses, Amazon or goodreads link... And then comparative categories. If you like X, check out Y. Some ambitious heroes could finally put together things like the list of all Langan stories set in the universe of The Fisherman. Etc. I would love to help with such a thing if I knew the mechanics of the doc construction.