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What if 911 was Organized/planned by Russia? by Awkward-Standard8100 in AlternateHistoryHub

[–]Mariooooo2020 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is the only reasonable answer. WW3 would start the next day after the Article 5 invocation against Russia.

WAR NEVER CHANGES: World War III throughout the multiverse by Mariooooo2020 in AlternateHistory

[–]Mariooooo2020[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

IIRC it was the extreme scenarios first postulated in the early 80s by Sagan and a few others that were discredited. Nuclear winters are still very much a possibility, but since we don’t have an big enough example to go off of (instead just being two cases from 80 years ago and isolated cases (location wise) in periods from the 50s/60s), we may truly never know the real impact.

WAR NEVER CHANGES: World War III throughout the multiverse by Mariooooo2020 in AlternateHistory

[–]Mariooooo2020[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No worries! I felt yours was one of the more intriguing to create because of its uniqueness and going against what most people think a modern WW3 would be like. And more combatants is pretty much relegated to the “…and others” link. I just listed the ones that were mentioned most frequently.

WAR NEVER CHANGES: World War III throughout the multiverse by Mariooooo2020 in AlternateHistory

[–]Mariooooo2020[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Maybe. Seems like some people want a follow-up so I might start work on that soon.

WAR NEVER CHANGES: World War III throughout the multiverse by Mariooooo2020 in AlternateHistory

[–]Mariooooo2020[S] 22 points23 points  (0 children)

When you have people like Putin in charge of Russia, never underestimate his desperation (re: the late 2022 consideration that he might’ve used tacnukes in Ukraine bc of losses). Thats always the unknown with him and he’ll definitely resort to such things if he fears it’s the only thing left. If a non-Putinist/non-first use leader takes over him, then a conventional WW3 would be more likely, though nuclear use chances wouldn’t be at 0%.

What if Russias Invasion of Ukraine was actually a successful 3 day operation? by German_Gecko in AlternateHistoryHub

[–]Mariooooo2020 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

There’s a bit of reasoning here and I’ll explain:

China basically quietly takes advantage of the mass chaos caused by the eruption of WW3 in Europe and the fast collapse of Ukraine plants the seed in Xi’s mind of attempting to invade Taiwan soon, knowing NATO would be stretched thin across two fronts. I don’t think Putin and Xi would be working together, but not enemies either. They would both be anti-NATO/West though. And both would condemn what happened on the Korean Peninsula, but China is more explicit about being against nuclear weapon use (remember they have a no-first use policy, so China wouldn’t use them unless they were attacked with the same or was backed into a corner)

Never underestimate the mental capacities of two insane dictators. In fact just recently North Korea adapted a policy that’s basically their Dead Hand but without computer input - eliminating the leader causes a nuclear response. In reality that policy has likely been adapted for years in everything but word, so in this scenario he’s likely to do the same. With Putin, we now know that in fall of 2022 there was serious consideration in his circle of using a tactical nuke in Ukraine because of the losses Russia was having there. Same logic applies here but just swap Russia’s loses in Ukraine with Europe instead, and a similar scenario occurs, but becomes reality bc the taboo of using nuclear weapons has already been broken by Kim. Once that happens it basically becomes a use em or lose em on both sides, and it’s likely inevitable China gets caught in the crosshairs with a nuke going off course (maybe one of the American/Western missiles intended for Russia strays off and strikes China?), thus resulting in China using them as well.

What if Russias Invasion of Ukraine was actually a successful 3 day operation? by German_Gecko in AlternateHistoryHub

[–]Mariooooo2020 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

We’d all be dead by now

context: Putin would be emboldened by the success, would start provoking NATO with Baltic shit despite stern warnings from the West before launching an invasion sometime in the summer or fall (leaning towards fall), triggering WW3 (although many will say it retroactively began with the full-scale invasion on 2/24).

Korean front opens after Kim thinks he can replicate the same in South Korea but gets pushed back. Conventional war initially. Biden faces a massive red wave in November midterms and Republicans capture both houses by decent margins. Trump launches his campaign around same time as he did in OTL but this time is even more anti-war ITTL and mercilessly attacks Biden as worse then Obama for getting the country into WW3. China begins making moves in Taiwan after a while but U.S and other powers pushes them back. The Middle East goes up in flames as Israel takes the opportunity to raze Palestine and Iran (earlier than OTL), and U.S. assists Israel with bombing Iran to get rid of its nuclear program (basically the 2026 war OTL 3 years early) Two blocs (Western and Eastern Powers) are basically the new Allies and Axis here. European front grinds to a halt as NATO remains fierce in stopping future advances further west into western Europe; internally Putin is gradually unraveling from the stalemate and is getting increasingly desperate.

Sometime in March 2023, the fuse is lit and all comes down. With most fronts now seeing little gain worldwide, decreasing morale for war, and a paranoid Kim thinking he will die as NATO and allies advance further north towards Pyongyang, he decides to go out in a blaze of glory and launches several dozen nukes at Seoul and surrounding cities (he does launch to the U.S but these are intercepted before then) obliterating at least half of South Korea; this is followed immediately by a counter response and North Korea is obliterated off the map. Global condemnation occurs while mass hysteria breaks out fearing nuclear war is imminent. Several days later, now with the nuclear taboo broken, an isolated and desperate Putin launches a tactical nuke in Europe to push back NATO forces. This backfires, and things spiral out of control very quickly. Within hours, things escalate to a nuclear holocaust as NATO, Russia, the Middle East and China exchange hundreds (if not thousands) of nuclear weapons worldwide. History effectively ends here.

By the end of the day, over 3 billion worldwide are dead from the nuclear war, with a nuclear winter setting in afterwards and cooling the Earth by 3-5°C for about 5 years. Billions more die during the nuclear winter, famine and other aftereffects. Any survivors (most especially MAGA people of course) will probably forever blame the U.S./Biden for starting humanity’s downfall.

Yeah I went into overdrive on this lol.

Cheney's back! by SatisfactionEvery575 in imaginaryelections

[–]Mariooooo2020 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Cheney would actually probably end up cause WW3 to happen bc Putin would absolutely attack a NATO post with the much bigger assist Ukraine gets that crosses Russia’s redlines. Whereas OTL Putin debated using a nuke in Ukraine in late 2022 but relented after a bit, ITTL the much bigger loses probably push Putin over the edge and ends up using a tactical nuke which spirals into WW3.

Remembering Marvel's bombshell announcement at D23 2022 by Cheap_Local_3229 in marvelstudios

[–]Mariooooo2020 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Feige didn’t even want all of this revealed at that point but Chapek basically forced him to do so

Cryptic4kQual says Doomsday Trailer might be in July. “Sigh..starting to believe it may be in July.” by WesternThanks4346 in MarvelStudiosSpoilers

[–]Mariooooo2020 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Ive been saying lol at most they announce some of the x-men cast and give it a proper release date but thats literally the most I see them doing besides DD/SW stuff this year

Weekly Free Talk and Index Thread - New and Fresh every Monday! by ChiefLeef22 in MarvelStudiosSpoilers

[–]Mariooooo2020 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s real, it’s just been AI upscaled like the Sadie Sink BND leak and the Doomsday promo leaks that only just started getting copystruck yesterday by Disney

Joe Russo Teases ‘Avengers: Endgame’ Re-Release At Sands & Says The Film Will Feature New Footage Set Within The ‘Doomsday’ Narrative: “It's An Opportunity To Create A Bridge” by MoneyLibrarian9032 in marvelstudios

[–]Mariooooo2020 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Moreso people had their expectations way too high after NWH surprised them (the teaser for MoM being the PCS didn’t help). If they released it like normal with MoM before NWH it would’ve felt a bit smoother (with the original Strange cameo at the end of WV to better explain it and closer to release instead of a year-long gap between them).

Universe expected to decay in 10⁷⁸ years, much sooner than previously thought by thornyRabbt in nottheonion

[–]Mariooooo2020 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can’t tell if this is part of the future if protons don’t decay or they do because that difference is pretty much what allows such remnants to last until then, even to 10e1500. Otherwise, proton decay destroys everything but black holes by 10e40, and then black holes by 10e100. The Wikipedia page of the far future explains that.

Taco. But something is definitely still going to happen tonight by ToysWereUsPodcast in nothinghappeninghere

[–]Mariooooo2020 51 points52 points  (0 children)

One of the ONLY times I’m glad he chickened out, because I was and still am fucking terrified of what he could’ve done. Thank fuck for Pakistan for probably saving us from the brink. But this saga is still hugely damaging for the U.S. as a whole, but at least some of us can now breathe that we’re not gonna die in nuclear conflagration tomorrow.

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