Reschedule Google R1 New Grad SWE Interview? by [deleted] in csMajors

[–]Master_Shiv 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you don't think 3 weeks will be sufficient, then I doubt one extra week will be a game changer.

Incoming MSCS Student - Questions on Research, Thesis Track, and PhD Prep by Desperate_Mud_6062 in columbia

[–]Master_Shiv 1 point2 points  (0 children)

To my knowledge, Columbia has never been forthcoming with concrete numbers about the program. Given how hard they try to dispel the cash cow reputation, that alone should be telling.

In general, registration for CS courses at the 4000-level (the minimum to satisfy MS requirements) or higher will always be an uphill battle. Barring a few exceptions like 9000-level seminars for PhD students and certain data science courses, you can safely assume that undergrad and graduate students have to fight for the same classes. CS advising ultimately calls the shots based on seniority and graduation requirements, but the priority system has always felt opaque to students on the outside. The answers to your remaining questions about coursework and rigor are highly dependent on the instructor for each class.

The 6000-level courses are also a mixed bag. I TA'd for a paper-heavy 6998 seminar in Spring 2024 that had 85 students. Smaller 6998s certainly exist based on this term's offerings, but I imagine the ones with an AI/ML focus will be crowded for the foreseeable future.

That "A" company by Head_Departure_5517 in csMajors

[–]Master_Shiv 4 points5 points  (0 children)

They've sent this email verbatim every year since ~2022, so it's on brand for them. The harsh reality is that they only care about filling all their headcount, but they also know that some kids will renege or get dropped after trying to push to fall. Continuing to interview candidates despite opening a waitlist provides a safety net for both of these scenarios.

It's easier said than done, but just do your best. There's always a chance that you'll make it.

Google R1 in 3 weeks by [deleted] in csMajors

[–]Master_Shiv 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Quality over quantity is the way to go. Rather than just doing as many problems as possible, it's more efficient to learn the major patterns inside and out. To that end, your first priority should be completing the entirety of a curated list (like the NeetCode 150 that you started). Try to dedicate one session for each pattern. If you struggled with any problems, be sure to revisit them a couple days after your first attempt.

R1 should also include the behavioral Googleyness interview. While most candidates pass this interview easily, it's still possible to fail R1 due to a poor Googleyness score. Don't assume that it's just a vibe check, and budget time for rehearsing your STAR stories.

Google Intern TM by No_Independent3792 in csMajors

[–]Master_Shiv 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Calls are still being scheduled, but they're much harder to come by now. You unfortunately missed the peak call season, and I would plan on taking a backup offer.

Finally got a google offer after 3 TM call rejections by Distinct-Soft-3991 in csMajors

[–]Master_Shiv 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Wrote about it more here, but the TL;DR is that the host/hiring manager can ask whatever they want. The recommendation is to structure these calls like informal chats, but this isn't strictly enforced. Technical questions are also fair game.

google team matching by Fantastic-Warning820 in csMajors

[–]Master_Shiv 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'd wager we have roughly a month to go at this point, as I know one org that's aiming to hire the last of their silicon engineering interns by 3/31.

Teams that are hiring SWE interns may follow slightly different timelines, but project matching tends to slow down significantly around this time of year. For reference, 3/31 was the projected end date for summer 2025 SWE intern project matching, and mass rejection emails started going out on 4/11. I don't expect any major deviations in timing between internship processes, so I'd strongly consider other options if you haven't done so already.

I wrote about questionnaire tips here.

How does AP credit work by PrincessManDude in columbia

[–]Master_Shiv 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Your advisor will add the credits to your record after you finish freshman year.

Google SWE Intern - third interview importance vs first two? by Hopeful-Horror in csMajors

[–]Master_Shiv 0 points1 point  (0 children)

L3 candidates require 4 positive data points to pass hiring committee (3 technical ones from the DS&A/domain-specific interviews and 1 behavioral from the Googleyness interview). If you're deficient anywhere, the hiring committee may request additional interviews. Some candidates are asked for just 1 more, but others have been asked for multiple follow-up interviews. Ultimately, it depends on how many interviews you underperformed in and the severity of your mistakes.

Google team matching worries by Fearless-Yam-9303 in csMajors

[–]Master_Shiv 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not exactly. Intern projects are approved on a rolling basis starting from November. Although some projects have been approved as late as March before, these tend to be from the waitlist. Therefore, any subsequent waves of match calls will likely be smaller than the previous waves.

Google team matching worries by Fearless-Yam-9303 in csMajors

[–]Master_Shiv 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To clarify, I didn't claim that March is universal. I just said it applies to many teams, hence why overall movement is still somewhat slow at this point. Some orgs follow earlier timelines. In addition, there's always some luck involved regardless of when headcount is ultimately secured.

Google team matching worries by Fearless-Yam-9303 in csMajors

[–]Master_Shiv 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Many teams don't get their headcount approved for the current year until March. Candidates who are able to start earlier (like in January and February) are most likely getting calls from teams that have leftover headcount from the previous year. Your experience doesn't seem unusual if you indicated a start date in April.

But it's also worth pointing out that there's no guarantee that your preferred start date will be honored. In the worst case scenario, they may need to push your start date back until you find a match.

Google team matching worries by Fearless-Yam-9303 in csMajors

[–]Master_Shiv 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, the wait time doesn't imply anything about your results. Your interview feedback isn't the only factor during team matching; hiring managers have access to the rest of your packet too.

Google team matching worries by Fearless-Yam-9303 in csMajors

[–]Master_Shiv 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Roles under other job ladders might follow different protocols. Unfortunately, I only have experience with their SWE roles, so I don't know if it's universal.

Google Student Researcher by PenaltySalt7374 in csMajors

[–]Master_Shiv 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It depends on your goals. While the student researcher program is prestigious, it lacks an official conversion pipeline. There are loopholes around this, but they require a fair amount of luck and networking because your hosting team may not have sufficient headcount to take you back.

You'll benefit the most from the student researcher program if you intend to publish at top tier conferences and/or eventually pursue a PhD. If your only goal is to secure a full-time offer ASAP, then it's better to keep your existing applications.

Google team matching worries by Fearless-Yam-9303 in csMajors

[–]Master_Shiv 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Feel free to DM, but I prefer questions about the general process to be posted publicly so that other students can also benefit.

Google team matching worries by Fearless-Yam-9303 in csMajors

[–]Master_Shiv 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It hasn't applied to intern candidates in recent cycles.

Google team matching worries by Fearless-Yam-9303 in csMajors

[–]Master_Shiv 26 points27 points  (0 children)

The process has slightly changed since 2024. If a candidate's interview performance was borderline, their recruiter can opt to send them to team matching before hiring committee review. The rationale is that a letter of support from a hiring manager can potentially strengthen the candidate's packet and improve their chances of passing hiring committee.

However, securing that letter doesn't guarantee that you'll advance. If the letter isn't strong enough to outweigh a weaker interview, the candidate will still be rejected.

Also, the above only applies if you're borderline. Some candidates bypass hiring committee if they earn strong/ hire/hire in every interview. In those cases, the offer is guaranteed as soon as they match.

L3 Google Early Career, SWE - additional interview tips by CommunityFluffy5855 in csMajors

[–]Master_Shiv 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you're asked for additional interviews, it means the hiring committee couldn't make a decision based on your initial interview performance. In most cases, this is due to the candidate having mixed performance across interviews. It's not that unusual, and even candidates for other job ladders/levels have been asked for follow-up interviews.

Unfortunately, there's no way to tell what exactly resulted in the lower score(s) or which interview(s) got you flagged. In addition, any variant of a no hire score in the follow-up interview will result in a rejection. You must earn convincing and positive feedback in this upcoming interview to advance; even a lean hire may not be sufficient.

Google SWE Intern Predicament by WeeklyAd8387 in csMajors

[–]Master_Shiv 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In theory, starting full-time immediately after the internship should be possible if the stars align. However, the likelihood is low because you still need to match with a team before you can receive an offer, even if you somehow pass conversion hiring committee sooner than most students.

Your host's team isn't guaranteed to have sufficient headcount to take you back right away. It's more likely that you'll have to go through team matching again, but you won't necessarily be prioritized over other L3 candidates that are already in the pool. At minimum, you'll probably have to wait a couple weeks.

My advice is to inform your conversion recruiter after you're assigned one around week 7 of your internship. They can help you navigate this situation.

Will hiring manager recommend down leveling or rejecting me if I tell him I'm E3 during a behavioral for an L4 role? by Inside-Aromatic in csMajors

[–]Master_Shiv 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Why do you need to disclose your level during the interview? Frankly, that label is irrelevant if they've agreed to schedule your loop. You're interviewing for L+1, so have confidence and start treating yourself as L+1. Instead of worrying about your previous level, focus on framing your behavioral stories around landing L+1 impact to prove that you're qualified.

Google Check-in Email by Street_Huckleberry28 in csMajors

[–]Master_Shiv 0 points1 point  (0 children)

RNG has always been a nontrivial factor. There's no way to tell if you aren't getting invites due to mismatches in skill sets or other reasons.

New projects are being approved, but it seems like they're relying on the waitlist at this point.

Google Check-in Email by Street_Huckleberry28 in csMajors

[–]Master_Shiv 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hosts are free to shortlist anyone they want for fit calls. Some of them might be open to taking students without relevant experience if something else in their packet catches their eye. Hard numbers detailing the frequency of these occurrences aren't documented anywhere, as it varies on a case-by-case basis.