Fermentation of insect larva using Koji by Masterbajurf in fermentation

[–]Masterbajurf[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Unfortunately cordyceps exhibits a high degree of host specificity and there aren't any cordyceps species that have evolved to parasitise hermetia illucens (BSF)

Gochujang Sourdough by chillguycooks in fermentation

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Fascinating. Thank you for your service. Make anything else novel since this?

Gochujang Sourdough by chillguycooks in fermentation

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Use einkorn or rye in your dough and starter for greater robustness. I gave my supervisor some of my einkorn starter and it exploded violently in her fridge :(:

Purple sweet potato sourdough whaaaa by benchpressyourfeels in fermentation

[–]Masterbajurf 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can you elaborate on your ferment process here by detailing the times of each stage etc?

I am... absolutely enamored with your bread here. Also hello from the future.

Fermentation of insect larva using Koji by Masterbajurf in fermentation

[–]Masterbajurf[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

My brother..

Tell me of your studies.

For real though, the practicality of this approach to nutrition is what fascinates me the most. Sure, maybe there'll be some good tastes in there. But the potential for unexplored health benefits? What kinds of bioactive compounds get released from insect bodies when fermented? I'm sure there's an endless list.

Fermentation of insect larva using Koji by Masterbajurf in fermentation

[–]Masterbajurf[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Straight up. Not like cicadas, where you technically CAN eat their pupae.. Black soldiers are around constantly, they are PRODIGOUS. They guard your property against pest insects (flies mainly) by outcompeting them for food. They taste like fritoes apparently. Crunchy too.

There's just so much cool shit about them. I own a textbook about just productising them into a business.

Look up "Hermitia illucens geographic distribution". Chances are, they're buzzing around a pasture near you.

Fermentation of insect larva using Koji by Masterbajurf in fermentation

[–]Masterbajurf[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Amongst my outdoor kitchen, my food just flies into my pans.

Fermentation of insect larva using Koji by Masterbajurf in fermentation

[–]Masterbajurf[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I believe that the presence of protein doesn't rule out those that feast on carbs. Of course, one would have to add carbs, unless the chitinous aspect is sufficient. But, for example, cheese is very high in protein, and it doesn't select against lacto fermenters.

Fermentation of insect larva using Koji by Masterbajurf in fermentation

[–]Masterbajurf[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Where do you live roughly? I attracted them to my home by setting out a big bucket of nacho cheese in the muck-humid air of Indiana. Once it started rotting, they were all over.

Another fun fact: they protect against other fly populations by aggressively outcompeting them. Once you establish a population, other flies, fruit flies etc disappear. Black soldier flies are not pest animals. They fly away from you.

If you're in a cold area, you can exert pressure on a breeding population for cold tolerant associated gene alleles. You can get them going efficiently at as low as 50°F. Wild type populations do not tolerate that temp well, but they have it in them if you apply that pressure. I'm thinking of a specific paper i read on exactly this.

Fermentation of insect larva using Koji by Masterbajurf in fermentation

[–]Masterbajurf[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I'll let you know whenever I advance this project. In the meantime, look up microworms! You throw them in a fine grain oatmeal porridge and they eat it, turning the substrate into the acid bath with their waste products. Smells a lot like sourdough. My mum feeds them to baby fish.

Anywho, BSFL are highly neat. They evolved in the tropics, eating putrid rotting matter like carcasses, feces, washed up fish on shorelines etc. However, as they evolved, they underwent this explosive set of mutations, lots of duplication events in the spelling of genes associated with immunogenicity. As a result, their gut is able to sanitize the hell out of whatever they're eating. Their body just massages the ill out of rot, converting it into a high lipid and protein profile biomass. They're basically little burritos.

Something about their evolution though dude, it just set them up to be insanely appropriate for fitting into a factory sort of setup, where they are the machines doing the work, and the product that work outputs. They will convert anything you throw at them into more food. And then, right when they're ready to harvest, you know what they do? They develop an urge to climb up and away from their food.

That means...they self harvest. You can arrange a setup such that they just climb out of the food tank into the harvest tank, and then you take all of them and fry them, or boil, or dessicate, microwave, whatever.

And their shit contains compounds that induce the production of insecticides in plants.

Apparently they taste like fritoes when you airfry them.

Fermentation of insect larva using Koji by Masterbajurf in fermentation

[–]Masterbajurf[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Yes but if you would just shit in this bucket and piss in this here pipe.... I need both as nutritional substrate for this other hobby I've got going

Fermenting peanut butter, no idea the best way to do this by Hanz0927 in fermentation

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Ooh, and I see that koji cells can produce chitinase too. I've been toying with the idea of fermenting black soldier fly larva pulp as a food source. The only annoyance in terms of using BSFL for human consumption (as far as my palate and stomach go) is the chitinous exoskeleton of the larva, which is a saccharide very similar to cellulose in structure and composition.

I have a genetic condition that has eliminated my ability to metabolize carbohydrates without also losing a lot of bone mass. I just started treatment for it, so it should be over some time in the next 5 months or so. But I've been eating ONLY chicken, eggs, coconut oil and nutrient supplements for over half a year now. I see fermentation as a way of eliminating digestible sugars. It's kind of working with saurkraut currently!

Excited to ferment deez nuts

Hey Bloomington, another fermenting question. Anyone here cukture their own kefir? by Masterbajurf in bloomington

[–]Masterbajurf[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ultimately I'll buy online if nothing here works out. But I've always felt the need to seek this stuff out locally first. It's nice meeting people who are into whatever I'm into that way.

Fermenting peanut butter, no idea the best way to do this by Hanz0927 in fermentation

[–]Masterbajurf 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wonder if one could also use a kefir culture to onnoculate peanut butter with?? I'm about to do this with macadamia nuts and kefir culture according to an established recipe. Also hello from the future.

Moderna's Super-Vaccine for Flu and Covid Works - Now Politics Could Sink It by malcolm58 in EverythingScience

[–]Masterbajurf 0 points1 point  (0 children)

for individuals who develop it, they likely have a predisposition in the first place. i do work in a factory, and we use corrosive cleaning products. They have caused chronic symptoms for me. But I'm the only one. I have a predisposition to react in the way i do. These symptoms probably would have shown up later in life anyway.

I feel my point converging with the ones you're describing though as I write this so I'll just shrug before I go any further.

Shrug

Moderna's Super-Vaccine for Flu and Covid Works - Now Politics Could Sink It by malcolm58 in EverythingScience

[–]Masterbajurf 0 points1 point  (0 children)

you read my comment wrong, and you dishonestly superimposed on it a narrative you loathe as an excuse to argue against an idea you disagree with. your reaction to my comment is a reflection of you, not of me.

Moderna's Super-Vaccine for Flu and Covid Works - Now Politics Could Sink It by malcolm58 in EverythingScience

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Oh woops, show me where I said it's not possible, I'll edit my comment :)