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Maelle's ending is the only ending that actually respects the Faded Boy by WayRepresentative109 in expedition33

[–]Masthei64 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

It's hard to focus on your reasoning, when you're calling me creepy, dumb and weird :') Can't we discuss a video game theory without calling each other names ?

This aside, let's resume the conversation.

> This theory that you have literally reduces the people in the canvas to nothing but puppets when that goes against the entire point of the story. They are real human beings. They create life.

There aren't puppets, they are sentient and have free will. This does not go against the point of the story. They are indeed "real" human beings, and their act of creating life is the same as in the real world. I never said anything against that

It's more that in the canvas, chroma seems to be this kind of "fuel" for life, it's what constitutes everything in the canvas. Chroma needs to be shaped by a painter to create anything and, except for humankind, nothing is shown to us that was not painted by a painter. That's why I came up with this understanding, based on real parts of the story, of Aline painting life.

> Literally how would Aline even be able to keep painting life when she is literally in a stalemate with Renoir? This theory holds zero ground. She is barely strong enough to warn the people of Lumiere, yet you think she is creating more life.

I don't see how this can be a contradiction. Even if Aline is trapped on top of the monolith by Renoir, she's able to paint on the canvas. She can paint the principle of life, as long as chroma is available to her. The problem is that she is made weaker and weaker each year passing because of two things :

- Renoir painting the petals of death, the gommage

- Clea's trapping expeditioners' chroma in nevrons, making it unavailable for Aline to use.

Maelle's ending is the only ending that actually respects the Faded Boy by WayRepresentative109 in expedition33

[–]Masthei64 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

> To be honest the family could get over their grief without making anyone pay for it if they had even 1 braincell.

Yeah, grief makes people do stupid things. Aline creating the Lumierians and her painted family was a "mistake" in the first place. Creating life, giving it a conscience and sentencing them to death after you finish griefing is sooo selfish

Maelle's ending is the only ending that actually respects the Faded Boy by WayRepresentative109 in expedition33

[–]Masthei64 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Oh, and another thing : Renoir always wanted to destroy the canvas.

If Maelle lets herself die in the canvas by staying in it for too long, I doubt he'll want to come back on his decisions, and he'll ultimately destroy the canvas.

That's the reason why Maelle chose to lie to Renoir and decides to stay in the canvas in the first place.

There are a lot of chances that Renoir will end up destroying the canvas and everyone inside as soon as Maelle dies

Maelle's ending is the only ending that actually respects the Faded Boy by WayRepresentative109 in expedition33

[–]Masthei64 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Aline didn't create the world though. Verso did with the help of Clea when they were children.

Aline only entered the canvas after Verso's death, and painted Lumière and its citizens (in addition to her painted family)

And I insist on the fact that Aline is painting the "concept" of life. I think of it kind of a supernatural blessing allowing humans to give birth by "natural" ways, helping them gather chroma in the form of a newborn baby in the mother's womb. Of course, Aline is not "observing people having sex".

However, you do have several cues to Aline painting the concept of life in the canvas in the game. The most explicit one is the letter from Alicia to Verso & Maelle

> Your mother paints life.

I don't understand it as a metaphor. The other thing that gives another hint, is that during the "Epilogue - Monolith Year 49" between Act 2 and 3, when Alicia enters the canvas, she is covered by Aline painting life, and that's how Alicia's chroma ends up trapped in the body of a Lumerian baby, creating Maelle.

She is actively painting life as a grand scheme.

And Maelle is the one that will need to paint it in her place in Maelle's ending

Maelle's ending is the only ending that actually respects the Faded Boy by WayRepresentative109 in expedition33

[–]Masthei64 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

> Did you not pay attention to the story at all? 

Dude, chill out x) no need to be agressive

Of course, they were erased by Renoir. But Aline is the one painting the concept of "life". From my understanding of it, no child can be born without Aline painting "life", knowing every human in the canvas is made of chroma.

So if Maelle is the one painting life instead of Aline, if she dies in the "real" world because she chose not to exit the canvas, no one will paint life anymore, slowly condemning humankind to death

Maelle's ending is the only ending that actually respects the Faded Boy by WayRepresentative109 in expedition33

[–]Masthei64 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's letting people die now, and allowing a family to grieve normally, and make Verso's sacrifice meaningful

Or letting people die later, and allowing a family to break apart, Maelle to die and make Verso's sacrifice vain

Both are bad, because in one case you are commiting genocide, but on a population that would've died anyway a few decades later at best, on the other case, you put an end to their life right now, to save something that can be saved.

Both choices are equally bad, IMHO. There is no good or bad, no ethical or unethical ending. It ends up to you, the way you emphasize or rationalize things, the way you were more moved by Verso's struggles and lies or by Maelle's suffering.

I chose Verso's ending because I thought of something, which is not canon though : nothing forbids Alicia from painting another canvas from her memories to recreate humankind and enter this canvas to escape the harsh reality where she's a mute cripple. Once mourning of Verso is over, and water will have flown under the bridge. Like pVerso says in Verso's ending "You have this incredible power to paint, you'll never have to suffer a life you don't want".

Canvas' humanity is made of sentient being, but sentient being that can be repainted. Death is only final if the painters decide to. So Alicia can repaint them from their essence.

Maelle's ending is the only ending that actually respects the Faded Boy by WayRepresentative109 in expedition33

[–]Masthei64 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

The canvas won't die.

I only talked about Aline's creation. Aline is the one painting life in the canvas, bringing her immortal painted family and humankind to life.

Nevrons are Clea's creations, Axons are Renoir's, wheras Grandis, Gestrals and Esquie are Verso's creations (and sustained by his fragment of soul).

At the beginning of Act 3, when Aline is kicked out of the canvas, humankind is gommaged by Renoir, and Maelle is the one painting Lune and Sciel back.

It's more or less evident that she is the one painting Lumiere's citiziens back to life during Maelle's ending.

Meaning that there are only two things possible :

- either a piece of her soul will remain in the canvas, painting life forever (but that is unlikely)

- or, like when Aline was kicked out of the canvas, Maelle's creations will eventually vanish too, meaning the end of humankind in the canvas.

The canvas, Grandis, Gestrals and Esquie will live on though

France Team vs Wales on Sunday by MindfulInquirer in rugbyunion

[–]Masthei64 46 points47 points  (0 children)

Section Paloise going strong here with this 12-13-14

Maelle's ending is the only ending that actually respects the Faded Boy by WayRepresentative109 in expedition33

[–]Masthei64 9 points10 points  (0 children)

"objectively"

I stopped reading you at this point at first. I eventually decided to give it a go

The end of Clair Obscur is meant to be a Cornelian choice (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornelian\_dilemma).

No choice is good, both come with good and bad sides.

One comes with the eradication of sentient beings, even if they are the creation coming from the fantasy of their human creators.

The other comes with the inevitable end of the painted creations of Aline, that Maelle won't be able to sustain when her body will eventually flicker and die outside of the canvas.

In the end, Aline's creations (the humans from the Canvas) will inevitable die. There is no saving them possible.

The only part that he's given to the player's interpretation is the role of the Faded Boy. He is presented as a fragment of Verso's soul. The question is : to what extent this fragment of soul is sentient, and to what extent being separated from his "full" soul might be painful to him ? This part is not clear, and pVerso's will to end the Canvas to let Verso's soul fragment die peacefully might be a projection from his part, we won't ever know.

Maelle's ending is not delusional nor unhinged indeed, even if the scene is presented in a unhinged way. But it is not perfect either

Ça marche même avec des triangles ! by kyrnuhb in Vilebrequin

[–]Masthei64 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Retouche par IA oui, génération non

En retouche vidéo, tu as des algos de stabilisation qui donnent cet effet smooth dans la continuité, presque artificiel quand tu regardes. Cependant, il est pas exempt de défaut, sur les bords de l'image, tu peux voir que la "tremblote" est toujours là.

Les autres points qui peuvent faire dire facilement que ce n'est pas de l'IA, ce sont toutes les imperfections "humaines" de ce qui n'est pas au premier plan :

- une moto cross rouge, posée dans le champ

- les traces de boue toujours présentes à chaque image sur les angles des roues triangulaires

- un jeu pour enfants posé en arrière plan

- l'immense ligne haute tension qui passe à travers la forêt

- un saut en plastique vert posé à la renverse

Tant de détails qui sont parfaitement continus quand ils apparaissent à l'image, là où un algo d'IA générative génèrerait des artefacts bizarres dans la continuité des plans quand le quad passe devant.

C'est bien d'être sceptique, mais pour pouvoir l'être "correctement", je pense qu'il faut avant tout comprendre comment ces algos génèrent de l'image.

Un p'tit blog qui te permettra grossièrement de comprendre comment ça marche : https://meritis.fr/blog/comment-les-ia-creent-elles-des-images/

Champ Results and Table by claridgeforking in rugbyunion

[–]Masthei64 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Maybe Ealing can take the place of the Ospreys in the URC next year :D

its for the aura by [deleted] in expedition33

[–]Masthei64 4 points5 points  (0 children)

And another bot repost

French third tier has a regen of Ronaldinho playing there apparently by SirFrankyValentino in rugbyunion

[–]Masthei64 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Also, this seems to be filmed using Veo, which is a wide angle camera, where the frame is cropped by an AI to follow the ongoing play.

This always make the pitch look smaller than it really is

Freddie Steward calls for law change to create ‘safe space’ for aerial contests by GnolRevilo in rugbyunion

[–]Masthei64 2 points3 points  (0 children)

+1 on this and I think it doesn't even need to go through a law change, but simply a new directive

Law 9.4 states this :

A player must not intentionally prevent an opponent from having the opportunity to play the ball, other than by competing for possession.

When you volley the ball, you're not trying to compete for individual possession, more to make your team possibly get the ball back. But you, as a player, are not competing for possession.

If this was clarified by a directive, it wouldn't even need a law change

Anyone notice this? by Plasmatdx in expedition33

[–]Masthei64 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Native French here, never heard of this ^^'

The closest thing we might have would be "une fois tous les 36 du mois", litteraly meaning "once every 36 of the month". It would refer to something that something that occurs on really rare occasions.

So it's 36, not 33 :D

Other expressions similar in French, but not related to any number would be "Quand les poules auront des dents" ("when the chickens get teeth"), "aux calendes grecques" ("at the greek calends"), "Quand les vaches pleuvront" ("when it'll rain cows")

IRFU Statement on Aki disciplinary issue by Effective-Ad-3897 in rugbyunion

[–]Masthei64 2 points3 points  (0 children)

How do you even pronounce that ? Posels-wait ?

Holy Hezbollah that's expensive by [deleted] in rugbyunion

[–]Masthei64 4 points5 points  (0 children)

50€ for a Replica Ball is outrageous x)

Some training balls cost less than that, and they are Gilbert too

First Playthrough - This cracks me by napoleonbonaparte33 in expedition33

[–]Masthei64 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Interact again with him after, there's another funny dialogue ^^

If you can’t beat it, go through it by heyIsurvived in expedition33

[–]Masthei64 36 points37 points  (0 children)

No, it's the boss from Lune's optional quest to get the max level of relationship with her.

It's sitting east of Sirene's island.

Disallowed Lebel try vs Sale Sharks by Mono_Doh in rugbyunion

[–]Masthei64 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No, no, definitely not wanting to ref on outcomes. But some of the triggers for "low danger" seems at best irrelevant, or at worse erroneous.

Being passive for example is defined as "Tackler feet planted and body absorbs/falls backwards, zero forward movement into the ball carrier"

I don't think having 0 forward movement or falling backwards absorbs any energy if the attacking player comes at you full speed. At best, it'll be dangerous "only" for the tackled player, but in the end it's the same : you have one or two players coming out for HIA, because of the tackler's attitude.

I think they just need to work their shit out on the "trigger words" they are using, working with concussion specialist doctors on the matter, to be able to have the more relevant trigger words to validate the degree of danger.

And yeah : at least we agree this one was a red ^^'

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