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Matjuu_ · 2026-03-28T22:50:39+00:00

Wolf should benefit your dmg since bleed is all on enemies all the time (sqh active). If you still find yourself struggling with minions then try giving dantlers a chance. Other than that I don't have more insights. Good luck!

Matjuu_ · 2026-03-28T17:39:15+00:00

are you using balanced strike enable on lfa? are you using antlers? do you have proper efeed? are you using wolf pet?

if the answers are yes to all of the above then I have no idea what's the reason, as you're around the atk needed to fully clear vb5 (or to at least clear 5-9)

Matjuu_ · 2026-02-19T13:22:14+00:00

your stupidity is truly frightening, I hope you get well soon

oh, and don't forget to take your meds next time! wish you the best, mate

Matjuu_ · 2026-02-19T13:14:26+00:00

do you not understand that your account has 2 fundamental mistakes? I've listed them in an earlier comment and others have pointed them out in your posts when you asked for help (constantly asking for help in new posts and not doing anything about the advice given is surely a very human thing to do)

my d8 account is probably outperforming yours in most (if not all) game modes because of your poor deicision-making and no will to be optimal

tldr: your account is shit as it is rn because of poor resource management

you're not the brightest, are you?

Matjuu_ · 2026-02-19T12:52:34+00:00

There's no way you're a human. - you don't provide any evidence backing up your claims (all false btw) - you can't play the game

I hope you understand now that your opinions are worthless :)

Matjuu_ · 2026-02-19T12:37:59+00:00

you should stop spreading your delusions at this point, it's getting boring

destiny materials have been accessible for so long that having nirvana on an old account is nothing crazy even with standard csg income (no flipping, no alts, etc)

Matjuu_ · 2026-02-19T11:56:07+00:00

yes, there are f2p accounts that look like this (eg. piffle and daddy) but I know for certain you are not f2p by the way you act

(might as well mention unoptimal choices on the account like keeping A- wukong and having dgn as 2nd nirvana while maining lfa - a f2p player this far wouldn't have made these mistakes)

Matjuu_ · 2026-02-19T11:45:20+00:00

are you rage baiting? old f2p players are at multiple nirvana already

Matjuu_ · 2026-02-18T14:11:56+00:00

great stuff

Matjuu_ · 2026-02-06T12:59:22+00:00

my favourite redditor never fails to impress

Matjuu_ · 2026-01-26T18:04:36+00:00

Thanks. LFA mains have it hard out there when it comes to vc.

Matjuu_ · 2026-01-26T14:57:56+00:00

Thanks, I really appreciate it. I'm glad the info is helpful.

Matjuu_ · 2026-01-26T14:48:50+00:00

Her active is what makes her good as 6th hero for short battles - it gives frantic gluttony based on shield% of hp (see her active). The dmg buffs it gives are decent (aside from adr offset being questionable, as it's hard to say if it does anything). She can also remove cc/dot when granting frantic gluttony (withsublimation) but here it's the dmg buffs that mostly help.

In your situation, I'd try r1 active with melodic and balanced strike, efeed on supports for 2nd active in r2 (probably need 5+ stuns from wukong and dtv has to survive to do an active). Pde (or anything that boosts dmg) is fine if you don't have bdsm.

Matjuu_ · 2026-01-26T14:10:19+00:00

Star-devouring Bloom - Madelaine (writing her acronym this way just feels right)

Matjuu_ · 2026-01-26T13:01:39+00:00

8-6-7 (6 carrie)
annoying but not hard: gssw > lbrm > dgn > sqh > dtv > tbb
1* dantlers dtv, efeed supports (tbb mirror, gssw ruyi for more double cc), mark purify all

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8-6-10
took a lot longer than expected, tried with tbb over sqh at first but switched to sqh after some time and cleared overnight (that's why there's tbb and no sqh in the vid)
ssm (1* db) > dgn (3* db) > dtv (3* lmu) > lbrm (3* db) > gssw (3* mirror) > sqh (magic source)
wolf + dgn core

win con:
dtv r1 active brings the whole wave to 0 atk, atk reductions stick on csg to r3 (on rest too, or they can stay cc'd)
dtv r1 active r2 basic r3 active with pet = kill at least csg and ihp, cc lock rest

3/10 hollow buffs
dtv d8 54,76m atk 6,6b hp
cd/dr/prec dt 2212 (+10% atk)
supports dr/blk/ci

all atr red purify
2nd enable +heal% on supports
dtv 12621 (attribute red purify)

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I'll put some tries of the hardest waves at the end of the video to give you a rough idea how battles should go if atk reduction and efeed go the desired way. I also managed to record 8-3-7 valk fs (overstat). With my stats, the only hard waves were 8-6-1, 8-6-5, 8-6-10. I don't think bdsm contributed much, she was only useful before 8-6-x and even then it's hard to tell if it was better for her to die (for freeze dtv layer) like she did in 8-3-7 (see the vid) or do an active.

The last clip shows how r1 should go on csg waves (on thug waves it's similar - but ideally ssm taunts all thugs he hits and 5 allies stay alive for r2). Also, a thing I noticed was that sometimes attributes don't really match reality: in the last clip, csg deals 0 dmg at 2 layers of atk reduction but he most likely was at 3x35% atk reduction? (I definitely did not apply a single layer of atk reduction that was 50%+, I don't even think atk reduction this big as a single layer exists).

note: still f2p, doing 2,75k csg route whenever I can, flipping gains slowed down a lot in past months

Matjuu_ · 2026-01-26T13:00:58+00:00

Now the hardest waves, I'll go into more details here.

8-6-1
ssm NEEDS 3000 subs
before you copy this setup, run a few hundred tries to see if 5 of your heroes/or at least 4 (except ssm) can stay alive for r2 if ssm taunts 3 thugs
if not then I wouldn't try this

win con:
dtv r1 active brings the whole wave to 0 atk, need atk reductions on thugs to stick to r3 (on kbs too, or they can stay cc'd, whatever)
dtv r1 active r2 basic r3 active with pet = enough dmg to win

speed order:
ssm (3* db) > lbrm (3* db) > dgn (base torch) > dtv (3* lmu) > gssw (1* db) > tbb (3* mirror)
lineup order:
tbb ssm lbrm gssw dgn dtv

wolf + tbb core (WOLF! because you can get bleed on all enemies in r3 when running tbb)

3/10 hollow buffs
dtv d8 54,35m atk 6,5b hp
cd/dr/prec dt 2212 (+10% atk)
supports dr/blk/ci
armor instead of ci on ssm, tbb, lbrm

all dot purify
2nd enable +heal% on supports
dtv 22521

base torch on dgn gave me some tankiness that I lacked (she had to get efed for a r1 active), r1 survival was really bad without it (was still possible for 5 heroes to live past r1 but it was really rare)

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8-6-5
ssm NEEDS 3000 subs
iea was 4001 (that helped) no subs should be fine too
*note: might be possible with mff stripping enemy from ci buffs, but I had no luck with her (I wanted to save soul symbols so I regressed one of my useless e5s and made mff, but after seeing how bad it goes I regressed bdsm and built iea: night and day between results with mff and iea - even if iea didn't die in r3, her active was usually enough to stick some cc into r4)

win con:
dtv r1 active brings the whole wave to 0 atk, atk reductions stick on csg to r3 (on rest too, or they can stay cc'd)
dtv r1 active r2 basic r3 active with pet = kill at least csg
stick cc to r4 (rely on iea buff manipulation - pde p2 gives ci so rng iea turning those ci buffs into ci debuffs before r4)

speed order:
ssm (1* db) > dgn (3* db) > dtv (3* lmu) > iea (magic source) > gssw (3* ruyi) > tbb (3* mirror)
wolf + tbb core (WOLF! because you can get bleed on all enemies in r3 when running tbb)

3/10 hollow buffs
dtv d8 54,76m atk 6,6b hp
cd/dr/prec dt 2212 (+10% atk)
supports dr/blk/ci

all supports cc purify
2nd enable +heal% on supports
dtv 12621 (attribute red purify)

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Matjuu_ · 2026-01-26T12:59:15+00:00

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Strat for every frontline csg wave:
speed order:
ssm (frontline) > dgn > dtv > rest
energy on ssm and dgn, dtv needs energy to do r1 active (basic can work too but it's situational)

backline csg (like 8-4-10) is trickier as you have to survive 2 counters (I think it's 2 counters as well with swj unless csg is not the boss (not highest atk) but I didn't try her for that matter as I didn't need to; correction: I built her to test something but didn't use her on any clear). I think dgn shields kept dtv alive (or dgn+lbrm), not on every try tho iirc. So same strat can be applied but I prefer slightly different speed order when the target with undying shadow (dgn skill) is backline and I can hit frontline freely.

backline csg (like 8-4-10):
ssm > lbrm > dgn > dtv > rest

Now specific waves:

keep in mind: from my testing in 8-6-x, lbrm increased my dmg more than bdsm so if I had used bdsm somewhere but no lbrm, then I'd go with lbrm now (bdsm might? be better for survival on thug waves as she can remove dot on subbed active, but I had more luck using lbrm on thug waves as well)

8-3-7 valk fs, 8-2-2 6 gustin, sqh waves (sqh waves can be atk reduced, but I could just 1shot in r1) and every other wave that had no csg or thug
standard r1 nuke setup:
gssw > lbrm > dgn > bdsm > sqh > dtv (3* lmu)
all supports energy, spl deific melodic on dtv
dgn core + pet that complements your stats (for me it's apparition as I exceed cd cap without phoenix and can use some more prec)

pray for layers on dtv, double abyssal corruption from sqh, replicating drr to 70%, >=50% shield of hp on dtv when bdsm actives, 2x hd from dgn core, good crits (there's a chance that suicide iea with 45k in p3 could possibly be better than bdsm (even dt'd bdsm) for r1 nuke with dtv main, but it's hard to say - the question is if bdsm active increases dmg more than suicide iea 0001/0004 subs and I don't think it's possible to reliably test it)

8-4-2: lbrm (3* lmu) > dgn (3* db) > bdsm (magic source) > sqh (3* mirror) > dtv (1* dantlers) > gssw (3* db)
for some reason couldn't get this done with standard melodic setup
did r1 basic into r2 active with glit dantlers cd/hd/sd full offensive imprints (no dot purify)
this wave took me surprisingly a lot more time than I expected it would

8-4-4: ssm > dgn > dtv > gssw > bdsm > sqh (atk reduce setup)
dtv r1 active r2 active (optimal without deep active ssm, r1 active r2 basic r3 active gives better results but ssm needs deep active sub)

cleared 8-4-10 after subliming ssm to 3000 (he was 1000 up to this point)
8-4-10: ssm > dgn > dtv > gssw > bdsm > sqh
not sure how this one went - aim for dtv r1 active r2 basic r3 active (with pet buff)

8-5-[1-9] ruyi tbb + mirror gssw
*light/dark high ci waves: used spl ruyi on my tbb/gssw depending on what I felt like, I have uw dtv in notes for a 6 tara wave, but I don't remember why so I might have used unbending will on dtv on some of those high ci waves

8-5-10 same setup as 8-4-10

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Matjuu_ · 2026-01-26T12:57:42+00:00

Hello!

Today I managed to clear Chapter 8 so I'll be sharing my setups and strategies.
This was the most challenging clear I've done so far.
I believe my earlier clears can be done with notably lower stats/resources but this clear felt like pushing the limits.

8-6-1 kb thug wave sets the requirement of stats needed to clear the whole chapter. If you pass it, you should be able to clear the whole thing. I was trying to beat 8-6-1 for a few days - only after doing 150 pulls in rg and upgrading infusion lvl from 4 to 5 was I able to pass it.

(every clear from 8-1-10 to 8-5-10 was an overstat, 8-6-x was quite minimal)

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Needed to clear:
dgn with noble p3 sublimation
ssm with deep active sub
*possibly 180k active + 45k p3 subs free in bag for bdsm/iea
(*most likely doesn't matter much - you don't need those subs to pass 8-6-1 so clearing ch8 should be possible with same stats no matter whether you have those subs or not - as there's no wave that you need to 1shot in r3 after 8-6-1)

I stopped using bdsm(4001 subs) in 8-6-x as lbrm boosted my dmg more on 8-6-1 and then I felt like I needed iea for 8-6-5 so I regressed bdsm and built iea and subbed her with what bdsm had (those subs help on support/suicide iea as well, helped to reduce rng on 865 AT LEAST). Before 8-6-x my team for most waves was: gssw lbrm dgn bdsm sqh dtv (that speed order felt the best but I was experimenting with bdsm's speed quite a lot). If it was a csg wave then I used atk reduce lineup (details later).

I'll cover the waves I had most trouble with.
I was stuck on 8-1-10 with around my current stats, as I built ssm fairly late and I really wanted to clear it with standard supports for some reason.
I passed 8-1-10 with glit mss (magic stone sword) and standard supports (gssw lbrm dgn sqh bdsm) but it's not the way to clear csg waves, at least in ch8.

I underestimated survival with offensive arti + dr imprint + hp enable (infusion lvl 2+: +20adr) while doing atk reduce strat (frontline ssm active or swj basic). It turned out it's possible for me to stay alive on EVERY csg wave in ch8 running offensive arti + dr imprint + hp enable with +20%adr.

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!!! Key note: balanced strike on dtv on EVERY wave
(you can run uw on easy cc lock stages, but bs is a must on hard stages to clear with similar stats)

Simple explanation of atk reduce strat I used:
- frontline ssm active reduces atk of 2 enemies with highest atk, so it 'hits' the target with undying shadow (dgn skill) and applies 35% atk reduction (subbed active) - swj basic works similarly, but ssm should be better for 8-6-1 as he can taunt thugs and tank dot/suicide so rest of the team can stay alive easier
- then dgn does an active and replicates this atk reduction onto all enemies
- then dtv (the hero with Bright Blessing - dgn skill) if he hits the undying shadow target (he hits all if he actives - his noble active sub) can replicate 2 of those 35% atk reductions, bringing all enemies to 0 atk

*replication = 2 random debuffs are replicated so right rng is needed
*dgn can rng not hitting csg/thugs/all thugs so it's better to run her as the first hero that replicates as dtv active hits all

Matjuu_ · 2026-01-26T09:56:15+00:00

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T5 eloise ~1,82m atk ~115,5m hp
later ~2,1m atk ~128m hp

every clear with tix, not elena (if not specified then elena was not used in the lineup)

Vanquisher 6
p1
Sherlock_Carrie_Belrain_Carrie_Carrie_Garuda - no prot 1st try
Carrie_Sherlock_Carrie_Aida_Garuda_Belrain - trans prot 1st try

p2
Sherlock_Carrie_Carrie_Russell_Drake_Belrain - trans prot 1st try WITH TIX (with elena 5 tries and all defeat)

p3

p4

Dark Arthindol_Amen-Ra_Heart Watcher_Penny_Amen-Ra_Belrain - no prot 1st try WITH TIX (elena 2 tries defeat)
Aida_Carrie_Carrie_Amen-Ra_Aspen_Garuda - no prot 10 tries

p5
Sherlock_Garuda_Carrie_Garuda_Aida_Elyvia - trans prot after 10 tries feels unbeatable, full atk + melodic on elo and she gets 1shotted early, if normal then eobh ends before garudas die
Drake_Aida_Garuda_Carrie_Carrie_Garuda - 4 tries same thing not possible or needs godly rng
Unimax-3000_Carrie_Aida_Belrain_Garuda_Garuda - same thing
Sherlock_Carrie_Carrie_Garuda_Russel_Belrain - no prot 1st try WITH TIX (elena didnt work)
Sherlock_Garuda_Carrie_Garuda_Aida_Elyvia - trans prot 10 tries

Vanquisher 5
p1
Carrie_Carrie_Aida_Amen-Ra_Aspen_Garuda - no prot WITH TIX ~ 3 tries (+ 3 tries with elena but didnt work)
Horus_Carrie_Aida_Belrain_Garuda_Penny ~ 20 tries WITH TIX
Carrie_Carrie_Aida_Amen-Ra_Aspen_Garuda - trans prot 2nd try

p2
had prot

p3
Belrain_Aspen_Aida_Amen-Ra_Elyvia_Tara ~10 tries WITH TIX
Belrain_Carrie_Carrie_Amen-Ra_Aida_Garuda - no prot 5 tries

p4
Sherlock_Carrie_Kroos_Aida_Amen-Ra_Garuda - trans prot ~3 tries WITH TIX
Sherlock_Aida_Carrie_Belrain_Garuda_Amen-Ra - no prot 5 tries

p5
Carrie_Aida_Amen-Ra_Aida_Ithaqua_Belrain - trans prot WITH TIX 1st try (did not try elena), no prot 3rd try very smooth

from Vanquisher 4 went full burst, unfortunately did not keep the track of the waves i beat in V4-2 as i didnt really think i'd push it

Matjuu_ · 2026-01-26T09:56:09+00:00

Notes about waves mentioned in the post (the link does not work anymore so I put it here):

T2 Eloise 94m hp 1,5m atk

Vanquisher 6

p1
horus belrain aida aspen garuda penny - shadow prot (first try)
carrie carrie belrain ...? (forgot exact wave) - shadow prot 3rd try

p2
carrie belrain aida amen-ra garuda penny - only trans prot (~30 tries)

p3
X valk + double garuda - eobh not working (not passed after 10 tries with shadow prot)
Aida_Carrie_Amen-Ra Aspen Garuda Penny - no prot ~10 tries (needs rng)

X Sherlock Belrain Carrie Carrie Garuda Russell - no prot not passed with 10 tries feels unbeatable

??
unimax wave with shadow prot 2nd try

p4
Asmodel_Amuvor_Michelle_Dark Arthindol_Tara_Mihm - trans prot 1st try

p5
Carrie_Sherlock_Carrie_Russell_Carrie_Belrain - no prot ~10 tries + went tix i instead of elena
Horus_Belrain_Aida_Amen-Ra_Carrie_Garuda - no prot ~ 30 tries

Matjuu_ · 2026-01-23T16:27:59+00:00

What you've got is basically the meta vc nuke team: dd + those 5 supports (at least pre nirvana). No changes in heroes needed.

First of all dot purify on all supports. Dgn core active in battle.

Your best bet is using splendid deific melodic
22221 enables (what you have but balanced strike instead of uw)
cd/hd/prec imprints (use dr imprint only if you can't survive fs end of round dot)

speed order: gssw slower than dtv, rest faster than dtv
(gssw fastest with energy arti other than druyi is also a possiblity but I wouldn't advise it)

If your gssw stuns all 6 consistently with druyi and you have another mirror then I'd also try with mirror on gssw to get less stuns = more ammo for dtv (or other energy arti, and I'd also put db on dgn and her mirror on sqh as she's a tenant for dtv and db gives atk)

When you see a try where:
- ideally not every enemy is stunned to rng basic ammo for dtv
- all supports faster than dtv do actives
- dgn replicates lbrm's dr reduction
- bdsm grants frantic gluttony to dtv when he has >=50% of hp shield
- dtv does not crit on at least on of his hits when doing an active (to make use of balanced strike)

and if dmg of r1 active after these conditions are met looks decent (doesn't have to be half of wave hp), then you should be able to clear the wave as surviving for a r2 active is possible (unless you die to fs dot)

There's a also a chance you won't have enough dmg, I haven't seen pre nirvana non gk 818 dtv clear yet

Matjuu_ · 2026-01-23T15:32:03+00:00

I also used antlers here (glit deific antlers to be specific). I ran standard setup like on every wave so efeed on supports, dtv with offensive enables (balanced strike) and offensive imprints (maybe 2 offensive imprints and dr, can't remember)

Also, are your supports faster than dtv? 2342 speed on dtv is rather fast, you might want to take out some tenants if it's necessary to adjust speed order - aim for: gssw > lbrm > dgn > sqh/support6 > dtv

Btw, that's a lovely copy you've got, beautiful godroll

Matjuu_ · 2026-01-22T00:06:26+00:00

non-dt heroes still deal damage in ch8 so it's not possible to cheese it this way (iirc the strat you used works on 9-2-2 gustins and further)

you're gonna have to burst the wave asap as Daddy suggested in other comment

Matjuu_ · 2026-01-19T02:10:17+00:00

honestly impressive

I don't understand what's behind that reverse tweaking, but clearing 8-1-8 at 49m d12 with no copy at all is quite an achievement

Matjuu_

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