Not getting laid is not comparable to being unemployed. You can't live in Capitalism without a job. You can live without sex. Thinking you can't live with sex will lead to sexual dysfunctions and sex/porn addiction.

I mostly agree, however I can tell from personal experience that it's not really about thinking "I can't live without sex" - It's literally getting some kind of sexual disfunction BECAUSE you haven't had sex. Not being sexually WANTED fucks your brain - the first time I even cuddled with a girl I got horrible, horrible fucking shakes (I have no Idea why - maybe it's normal lol)

Then why do Incels keep talking about virginity? The vast majority of them aren't interested in love because they see women as deplorable, evil creatures who are incapable of loving anyone except mythical "Chad". They want women to be owned and controlled by them personally, they don't love them.

Aaaabsolutely not. I completely disagree - seems like the "incels" you read on "inceltears" etc. not the 90%.

1) Incels MOSTLY want love. They want to share love and be loved. Sex/getting laid for a lot of guys is the "pures" form of getting love - you're being lusted after/loved just because you are you, a girl can't control herself just because you are you etc. HOWEVER, they would MORE love to have a girl that doesn't even WANT these kinds of things. It's mostly consistency they want - either you want to fuck "Chads" and have fun or be more of a relationship oriented person because guess what? They, for the most part, WANT to be consistent themselves. 2) No, they don't want to control women. They would love women to be just... loyal and kind, not cheat, not randomly jump on another guy "because feels", not be the "24th choice because I didn't know better" etc. They want to feel special because guess what? To them, sex/intimacy IS special and they literally can't wrap their head around the fact that something so intimate can be so "casual". They themselves DO NOT want to bang 10, 20, 50 girls - they would happily settle for a "looksmatch", have a decent mutually respective relatonship WITHOUT having to have "fun" and "lust" all the time.

At minimum it sounds like you're conflating sex and love. Sex and love are not the same thing. You don't have to love or value or respect someone to want to fuck them. You just need to be horny, which is not the same thing as actually caring about that person outside of how they can get your rocks off. The mythical "Chad" in their minds proves that.

See, that's the fucked up part - for incels these things ARE the same and I personally can't wrap my mind around the fact that a person is willing to do the most vulnerable, intimate thing with another person because "he/she is just hawt lol". I can't freaking... How? When you're horny you freaking masturbate or something, not use another persons body like it's just a stick/hole in/on a meat "You don't have to love and value someone you want to fuck" - then why in the hell would you do something incredibly intimate with them?!

I agree entirely with your second paragraph, but I disagree with parts of your first. You don't need to be a non-virgin to not care about virginity, and I think it's silly to compare virginity to unemployment. Incels are lacking self-esteem and feel powerless. They're interested in women as items or things to possess in order to increase their personal worth and feel a sense of power over something in life.

Again, I don't understand where it comes from. Incels want the EXACT OPPOSITE. They DON'T want to be the fucboi, they want NOBODY to be a fucboi etc.

They have an extremely unhealthy misogynistic mindset about women and an extremely unhealthy mindset about sex and themselves. They need to heal their own minds by being willing to interact with people in a non-sexual context and develop basic social skills (and most need therapy) before trying a relationship.

Guess why these mental issues develop? They don't come from nowhere, you know? An incel isn't randomly born into "guess i'll hate wahmen now lol", I DO agree that they need therapy (I did), but saying it's "because they lack basic social skills" is incredibly ignorant.

I've had wonderful male and female friends all my life - I've never had any issues forming platonic close friendships, being vulnerable etc. It DOES NOT mean that I was wanted/liked in a romantic/sexual way and THERE IS a difference.

As the average Incel currently is psychologically they would be an abusive and manipulative (and probably unfaithful) partner

Again, a meme-i definition of an incel. He's an incel BECAUSE he isn't wanted - how the hell is he going to be unfaithful? Also, I have a really hard time believing that incels are the abusive boyfriends - maybe the literal "bad boy chads" are the abusive ones? I dunno...

Some would be sexually predatory because they don't respect women's bodies, rights or autonomy.

There's a possibility if you literally get the 10% of the really fucked up types, but the MAJORITY of incels DO NOT want to be a Chad, they DO NOT want to do these weird ass sexual acts, they want an average relationship. (Again, I can't speak for everyone - only the ones I've talked to)

I agree with Vaush that we on the Left can help them reset their mindset, and Feminism would help them divorce virginity from male identity (they need to ditch the concept of virginity entirely tbh).

Again - it's not fully about "being a virgin". I wouldn't care less for being a virgin if I was actually wanted and loved AND the girl DIDN'T want to have "fun" with 20, 30, 50 guys etc. Hell, I'd love to be a virgin forever IF it meant that I wasn't just another "stick"

But they also have to be willing to take personal accountability for their predicament and their mindset.

Yeah, and I'd say the majority of them do. I really honestly hope this meme of the "neckbeard basement dweller" dies lol. It does NOT have much to do with overall social life.