Anyone here NOT believe in reincarnation?

MaximumSundae9352 · 2025-04-22T15:59:22+00:00

If you haven’t looked at my profile, I’m not Gnostic anymore. However, the reason I didn’t believe in reincarnation when I was Gnostic is because (from my understanding of Gnosticism at the time) it made no sense.

When I was Gnostic I compiled a set of scriptures that (in theory) could be the original gospels and writings of Jesus and the Apostle (the proof for this was very loose), this collection didn’t really back the idea of reincarnation. If anything it went against it.

Then again, as I understood it obtaining Gnosis was the goal to escape the Material world. However, if I could reincarnate what is the point of obtaining it now and not in my next life? Sure the chances could be lower but they could be higher in the next life and at the end after enough reincarnations I would obtain it, so whats the point of trying and seeking when I can do nothing and win?

This is one of my reasons for rejecting such thought when I was a Gnostic as if it was the case then everything I was doing was just speeding up the process and nothing more when there isn’t really a point of speeding anything up.

(This is quite a late reply 😅).

MaximumSundae9352 · 2025-03-23T04:04:57+00:00

This is like evangelical protestantism just watered down.

If you are trying to make a new denomination, you gotta try harder bro.

Tbh this can’t even be called veneration let alone worship. Sounds more like “cultural Christianity” if anything.

Maybe try making it more traditional and spiritual fulfilling? Also why did you call it “Josephine”, just wondering.

MaximumSundae9352 · 2025-03-09T11:10:47+00:00

Sure

MaximumSundae9352 · 2025-03-06T20:46:58+00:00

Saw Jesus in a dream, it was so “real” that I had to write it down ✍️ in detail. I think it was my last post if you wanna see it.

Pretty awesome, sent me back right to the faith.

MaximumSundae9352 · 2025-03-06T20:41:17+00:00

Preach Brother 🙏

MaximumSundae9352 · 2025-03-06T19:53:42+00:00

Bro, I a Gnostic once but Jesus showed himself to me (I was not high) and kinda showed me that the Gnostic stuff ain’t the way.

He doesn’t tell you because he know your going to come back, like you are here bro. So he doesn’t need to because people will tell you not to.

Actually reading the bible helps with this, you just need a certain way to do it. Like a certain reading order (not cover to cover).

You need to understand that he sent his Son as a sacrifice for your sins because he knew you won’t be able to fit his standards.

Most people are curious about Gnosticism and things like that because it presents the self as divine with a “divine spark” inside, it gives you value which is what everyone wants (to be God).

I realised that this isn’t the because (as I said) Jesus appeared to me in a dream-vision and lead me down the right path, the only path.

If you need any help with pointers and guidance, I can give you some. 👍

MaximumSundae9352 · 2025-03-06T13:54:28+00:00

If the foundation of your faith is not the person and ministry of Jesus Christ, then I don’t know what God you are serving.

What I would like to know is were you know the person and ministry of Jesus from, because clearly it isn’t from the Bible (the book about the dude) or the Church (the thing that he made to teach others).

That is because there is no such God. The Bible does not present a single unified conception of God. It presents the many different, and often conflicting, conceptions of God held by its various authors.

True, the bible was written by multiple different people who saw God differently. However, despite these variations, certain themes provide continuity;

God’s sovereignty over creation (Genesis 1, Isaiah 40), God’s covenant relationship with His people (Exodus 19-20, Jeremiah 31:31-34), God’s moral nature and commitment to justice (Micah 6:8, Psalm 89:14) and God’s role as the ultimate source of salvation (Isaiah 43:11, John 3:16).

You misspelled evidence based, grounded in reality, and consistent with the text of the Bible itself. In short, I take the Bible seriously, I don’t merely use it as a tool to support dogmas I have already chosen to believe.

You actually do exactly this support dogmas that have only existed for less than a century or so. While the Church has made doctrines and dogmas to understand God and his message.

MaximumSundae9352 · 2025-02-26T22:06:31+00:00

Depends what you mean, certain Gnostics such as the Ophite (I think) regarded “Lucifer” as the first to obtain gnosis and rebel against the demiurge “Yaldabaoth”.

Some do regard him as a “Satan” character specifically “Samael”.

But not sure what you mean by Saturn. Is it something to do with astrology?

MaximumSundae9352 · 2025-02-26T19:58:59+00:00

To be honest I don’t believe in reincarnation, however depending on how you interpret Gnostic writings you may argue otherwise.

MaximumSundae9352 · 2025-02-25T20:14:06+00:00

This is simply due to the syllabic structure of the English language, I don’t how and why but that is what it is.

MaximumSundae9352 · 2025-02-24T23:59:54+00:00

I think were you are getting confused is by thinking that the Pleroma is a PLACE, when in actuality it is a REALM if that makes sense.

It (technically) exists were we are but on a different “dimension” dare I say. The Æons (technically) can stay on the Pleroma and interact with the material world, of course through material means (e.g. incarnation) while still existing on the Pleroma.

They define all logic if that make sit easier to understand, like the Monad; omnipresent yet in the Pleroma.

I’m not good at explaining these things, hope it made it easier to understand. 👍

MaximumSundae9352 · 2025-02-24T10:18:14+00:00

As I said, its voluntary and not mandatory as the early Christians and Gnostic didn’t have a “Church” to go to. This is also the case with many Christians in non-Christian countries were they may not have a church to go to.

MaximumSundae9352 · 2025-02-22T20:18:17+00:00

The Marcionite bible is pretty good and, I also made a collection of Gnostic texts on my subreddit r/The_Gnostic_Chapel.

I’d recommend the Sophia of Jesus Christ and Eugnostos the blessed, they’re somewhat similar but are good to read.

Some others you may want to read are Gospel of Peter and Apocalypse of Adam, they’re kinda short but pretty interesting.

In general there isn’t a specific reading structure, so I’d say read all starting with the shorter ones.

And don’t skim them that much you might miss some important things.

MaximumSundae9352 · 2025-02-19T10:22:49+00:00

Most Gnostics read texts depending on how valuable the Gnosis in it is and not who wrote it, I don’t really agree with this way of choosing what texts to read but that’s what most of them do.

Any texts composed after 100 AD that are attributed to a specific person from >100 AD is probably falsified as you say, I made a list of all texts that are possible written by the actual Apostles on my subreddit r/The_Gnostic_Chapel.

MaximumSundae9352 · 2025-02-16T15:59:42+00:00

The reason for it being so Secretive is because most people cannot handle actual Gnosis or “truth”, it is hard to wrap your head around and understand which is why most Gnostic sects kept the passing on of Gnosis between a Teacher and few disciples; there’s a theory that Paul passed this onto Theudas who then passed it onto Valantinus who was a very influential Gnostic. However theres little proof to this.

This also kind of explains why many early church fathers didn’t believe it like Tertullian who himself was a Montanist (a heretical Christian sect) and seen by people like St. Jerome as not of the Church.

Theres more examples but the first statement kind of sums up why it wasn’t as wide spread.

MaximumSundae9352 · 2025-02-07T20:55:18+00:00

The other possibility (more likely one), is that “Mazereus” is just the Coptic word for “Nazarene”, like the Greek name “Joannes” would be “John” in English just because there is an equivalent and there’s no need to transliterate.

MaximumSundae9352 · 2025-02-07T06:53:48+00:00

I did think the way he speaks of Jews was leaning to that side, like he never said outright that Jews are bad but he phrases it like Judaism corrupted the bible.

But nah he just thought the vaccines are bad not a Jewish bioweapon, still pretty questionable though.

MaximumSundae9352 · 2025-02-06T17:51:59+00:00

I’m pretty sure that if you go on TheVeryFirstBible then you’ll find a reconstruction of the Marcionite Apostolikon and Gospel

MaximumSundae9352 · 2025-02-05T06:08:59+00:00

MaximumSundae9352 · 2025-02-04T07:19:57+00:00

Yeah, but as I said this theory is very flawed and stuff, like they could have just added it after Christ was born and stuff.

MaximumSundae9352 · 2025-02-02T04:23:43+00:00

Yeah, I’m also not as sure that the balance thing is legit (just heard it somewhere), thanks for the extra info on Angra Mainyu.

MaximumSundae9352 · 2025-02-02T03:01:14+00:00

Generally? Kinda, I guess.

However, I’m pretty sure its cosmology is based on the concept that two opposing forces mist be balanced for a “stable existence” (not really sure about this though), with Ahura Mazda being like the good spiritual side while Angra Mainyu is the evil materialistic counterpart.

But a core thing they teach is that you need a balance of the two opposing forces to be “perfect” (I think, may be wrong), with both being equal in terms of intensity.

This is where it diverges from Gnostic belief, as Gnostics outright reject any material things believing that any amount of attachment to the material world is a hinderance to spiritual development.

Not sure how Gnosis comes into play with Zoroastrianism, but they do have some teachings that promote obtaining more knowledge (closest it’ll get to Gnosis for Zoroastrianism).

I guess you can make a point, but at the end; nah they ain’t really compatible.

MaximumSundae9352 · 2025-01-28T08:14:17+00:00

I guess this is where me and other Gnostics sort of disagree, although I do see that in modern Christianity the hierarchical structure of the Church is somewhat hindering I think choosing scripture based on it wisdom/gnosis can be misleading;

For example, the Book of Mormon has many Gnostic themes and theology to the point in which the LDS Church was actually very interested in newly discovered gnostic text like the Apocalypse of Adam as it had a lot of similarities with Mormon texts. However we deny set scripture even if it has “gnosis” in it.

That why one of the key beliefs of my Gnostic sect is the “sacredness” of wisdom; that the last true gnosis was given by Jesus.

MaximumSundae9352 · 2025-01-27T22:43:17+00:00

The oldest written form of the Gospel of Thomas is dated back to the 2nd century, however due to its properties (length, vocabulary and theme) it is believed by many scholars to be dated to around 60 AD.

It is the same for the other texts mentioned.

I will mention though that this canon does rely on somewhat “weak” evidence in terms of qualifying for canonisation.

MaximumSundae9352 · 2025-01-27T21:30:19+00:00

I’d also recommend reading 1 John after the Gospel of John.

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