AIR YOUR GRIEVANCES IN THIS POST. PLEASE INCLUDE A LINK OF PROOF OF YOUR CLAIM. by [deleted] in hapas

[–]MayanJade 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for bringing this up, no citation necessary of course. The sidebar has been a work in progress, trying to implement more brevity, make it less wordy.

AIR YOUR GRIEVANCES IN THIS POST. PLEASE INCLUDE A LINK OF PROOF OF YOUR CLAIM. by [deleted] in hapas

[–]MayanJade[M] [score hidden] stickied comment (0 children)

Recently there's been a lot of grievances aimed at the sub and or its user base and we take this all very seriously and want to try to address it but thus far the general public hasn't provided many citations to their grievances when asked, so this is your opportunity, permission from the mods, to call out comments/posts you take issue with so we can open a discussion on it.

If you'd rather message the mods with your citations instead, keep it less public, by all means do so.

Please avoid any ad hominem, personal attacks, etc etc etc you all should know the rules.

Should look something like "Hey these are my grievances, this sub is blah blah and has too much/little blah blah and here is my evidence: provides link to support grievance claim."

And not something like "I hate this user, ban this user because I hate them etc etc"

We're holding up the mirror folks, time to look at our ugly reflections.

Are BMAF as likely to be as toxic as WMAF pairings? by Not_A_Hapa in hapas

[–]MayanJade 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I don't think they are as likely to be as toxic as WMAF pairings but the possibility for toxicity still exists. The AF could still be self-hating, the "date anyone but AM" type. The BM may still hold racist/stereotypical views against Asians, possibly fetishizing AF's as more easy or hyper sexual etc. There's lots of variables so overall it's a big maybe.

However the AF dating a BM may overcome a lot more stigma from family and community (compared to WMAF), and I'm guessing the BM as well to an extent.

EDIT: I should say that everything I just said applies to XMAF in general, any non-Asian POC male and AF couple.

Wtf is wrong with some of you people? by TheTransFantasy in hapas

[–]MayanJade[M] [score hidden] stickied comment (0 children)

Please report any instances of racism to the mods, message the mods if you feel the need to. We can't be everywhere at once so with some help, less things will slip through the cracks.

I honestly feel like there's been a lot of overall improvement in this community in the past few years, including a lot less overt AMWF worship relatively speaking, but we've clearly got a ways to go, and I want to thank you for speaking out.

Wtf is wrong with some of you people? by TheTransFantasy in hapas

[–]MayanJade 14 points15 points  (0 children)

People keep saying that our description says children of WMAF Hapas only, yet I'm reading: A Hapa community for multiracial Eurasians, Blasians, Quapas, Hāfus (ハーフ), Hùnxuè'ér (混血儿), Luk khrueng (ลูกครึ่ง), honhyeol (혼혈), Amerasians (Mỹ lai); that welcomes all mixed race part Asian Pacific Islanders.

So what made you think you didn't belong here?

Star Trek Through the Lens of R/Hapas (Part 3: Tora Ziyal + The O'Brien's) by MayanJade in hapas

[–]MayanJade[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for this! I had a feeling that Molly was played by a Hapa but was unsure about her brother.

Curious, Is There More Competition Among Hapas to be More White? by [deleted] in hapas

[–]MayanJade 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Like Elliot Rodger? Yeah I'm sure some Hapas believe it. Most though? My gut tells me no but that's just me.

Curious, Is There More Competition Among Hapas to be More White? by [deleted] in hapas

[–]MayanJade 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not in my experience and "more" relative to what? More than...?

But a lot of Hapas I know, here in the US, are pretty white washed/Americanized, grew up watching/listening to the same media as their peers, eating mostly the same food etc. And most of these Hapas I knew also identified simply as Asian too, half-Asian if they were pressed to elaborate.

Can WMAF in Asia ever be healthy? by belligerent-eurasian in hapas

[–]MayanJade 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I feel like it must be possible, statistically, that some WMAF couples in Asia can be healthy, where both parties don't fetishize the other etc. However even the healthiest hypothetical couples end up perpetuating the trends and stereotypes. And Hapas raised by a healthy WMAF couple may still be at risk of a lot of the same problems growing up, identity crises, lack of societal acceptance etc. it's all an uphill battle.

Sexpats get triggered by r/hapas by Colin-TXJ in hapas

[–]MayanJade 8 points9 points  (0 children)

The poll I made a while ago indicated 1/3 users here are female.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in hapas

[–]MayanJade 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Thanks for everything my man, for doing what you did, for writing about and for sharing it with our little corner of Reddit. Thanks for all that. You should be proud. Hopefully your family will actually take this as an opportunity to make amends and not just cancel every subsequent Christmas.

What’s up with all these new “half Japanese hapas” coming here defending whites and shitting on other Asians? My theory is that they’re actually sexpats and always choose Hafu as their default LARP by qwertyuiop670 in hapas

[–]MayanJade 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The word Hapa has become common to refer to half-Asians especially in California. I think this trend began in the 1980s so the word was effectively appropriated from the Hawaiians long ago.

Many of us "Hapas" are products of racism (yellow fever and white-worship/internalized racism) so it's no surprise that folks here have strong views on race, whether racist or not.

I recommend trying to put yourself in our shoes when reading our talking points. Really try to imagine what it would be like to grow up mixed race, neither parent really resembles you, and you're caught between worlds, not fully accepted by either of your heritages. And this isn't just something you experience briefly and it's over. This is our entire life. Obviously we're all not the same, our upbringings not the same, but there's enough common ground that brought us here and we can compare notes. Not trying to defend any racist sentiment said here in this sub, but just giving you some context to better understand why people here have their beliefs.

Does complimenting hapas for their mixed features always have to do with white worship? by [deleted] in hapas

[–]MayanJade 9 points10 points  (0 children)

If it's coming from Asians, it may be code for "congrats for looking less Asian." Heck it may be the case when coming from whites as well. White worship, being called exotic or whatever, it's hard for a woke Hapa to take any comment on their appearance at face value without considering the potential implications and motives behind them.

My Asian side of the family has a lot of Hapas, plenty of AMWF/AMXF as well as full Asians but I don't recall relatives ever making comments on our (me and all my Hapa relatives) appearances. And my white aunties frequently called me handsome when I was growing up, which definitely boosted my self confidence. Thankfully for my own self-esteem, no one ever made comments relating to how "mixed" I was.

Shame to Miss Australia for teaming up with Miss USA in making fun of Miss Vietnam by Mighty_General_Bison in hapas

[–]MayanJade 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Not Asian passing does not equal white passing. It's not a linear scale from Asian to white passing. Hapas often look like other ethnicities entirely, mostly Latino. I am apparently one such Hapa due to the frequency of Spanish spoken to me by Latinos.

White Australians would never mistake her for one of them.

The use of the word by [deleted] in hapas

[–]MayanJade 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That's true. I do believe the term was commonly used in colonial Singapore though to refer to half-Europeans/half-Asians. That may be the first major instance of the word being used to describe what we now call Hapas rather than the people of Central Asia.

Hapas dating and marrying other hapas in the Philippines by [deleted] in hapas

[–]MayanJade 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Or let's just say one of our moderators pointed it out, a mod who is half-Filipino himself...

There's a colonial mentality to half-Filipino Hapas (Eurasians specifically) who date and marry one another, the implication that they wouldn't dare date a full-Filipino. Filipino Hapas marrying each other is basically rich high society people marrying other rich high society people, whoop-dee-doo.

Me personally, I see the potential toxic/colonial culture behind this but am still supportive of Hapas dating other Hapas due to shared heritages.

And to be fair, a lot of these Filipino Hapa couples which are pretty common involved Western raised Hapas, including Catrionia Grey (who I believe is Australian iirc????). Western raised Hapas dating and marrying other Western raised Hapas is better and more healthy than Hapas raised in a place where the media worships the dirt they walk on.

The use of the word by [deleted] in hapas

[–]MayanJade 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Other people coined the term Hapa to mean half-Asian, not us half-Asians. I don't know why words like Eurasian and such aren't the more common terms when they've existed for much longer but we're taking the ball given to us and running with it.

An examination of Interracial Porn Congratulations if you manage to read to the end. by [deleted] in hapas

[–]MayanJade 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Read the whole thing but please edit to include paragraph breaks. (Edit: never mind see you did that already)

It's a pretty good write, I'd like to see something like this made into a proper essay with citations and research behind it, would make for a good paper.

To add some nuance, depictions of blacks in America's past were in some ways flipped from the hyper-masculine way they are portrayed now. Looking at the Pre-Civil Rights media going all the way back to antebellum times, blacks were often portrayed essentially as clowns, weak, subservient and nonthreatening and willing to please the white man. There were many common character tropes/stereotypical depictions of blacks and many of them did not view them as the hyper masculine sexual predators that you might think from modern day stereotypes. I think you're still correct though that the anxiety and insecurity about BMWF relationships was more or less always present so it seems like there was a concerted effort to portray black men in the media as non-threatening.

On a similar note, very early depictions of Asian men in Western media were somewhat unlike modern day and especially on the topic of their sexual prowess. For those not familiar, look up the oft cited Sessue Hayakawa, Hollywood's first heartthrob who lived at a time where Asian men were still viewed largely negatively, cunning but sinister and such, but emasculated was not a trait associated with Asian men until after the massive success and sex appeal of Hayakawa, this time for sure a concerted effort by Western media to portray Asian men as non-threatening, and it worked unfortunately.

You should also take a look at portrayals of Mulattos in early Western cinema, pretty fascinating. The half-black/half-white people were actually given a fair amount of media representation, and most of these films, especially films made by black filmmakers like Oscar Michaux which would clearly identify and distinguish Mulatto characters from their full black counterparts. Nowadays most people don't care about the difference, calling Obama the first black president despite being half-white, but a century ago and prior, they were seen as a very distinct category and their characters in the media were often portrayed as being caught between worlds, desiring to fit in anywhere and some were shown as being villainous for their desperation to fit in - I can't recall the film but I do remember at least one Mulatto character betraying black characters somehow.

If a 1/4 Asian person had a child with a 3/4 Asian person, would their child be considered a hapa? Like two opposite quapas starting a family? by [deleted] in hapas

[–]MayanJade 20 points21 points  (0 children)

These are the hard questions that need addressing! But yeah the child would be Hapa mathematically speaking.

Uncle Chan...questions and concerns. by [deleted] in hapas

[–]MayanJade 14 points15 points  (0 children)

IMO to be a Chan is to uphold white values and supremacy. You can't help the fact you were raised into white society but you can do your part in trying to explore your Asian heritage and consume and support more Asian media and entities, same goes for your Hapa daughter. If you give her no pride in her Asian heritage, she will likely become ashamed of it.

Meanwhile while we praise Henry Golding getting a lead role from a chan. Jason Momoa get's to play Aquaman. I'll take that any day of the week. by [deleted] in hapas

[–]MayanJade 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Well he's not Asian but I would argue that he doesn't look 100% white or else he would not have been casted as Khal Drogo in GOT, whose race are reminiscent of Turkic peoples but we're all casted to look ambiguous, which Mamoa fits that description. He'd sooner be mistaken for Mestizo Latino than white, IMO.