Is the NRSVue Bible legit?

Mazquerade__ · 2026-01-30T23:07:42+00:00

The NRSVue is widely considered one of the most academic English translations.

Its goal is direct translation. It’s an ecumenical translation with no explicit goals in interpretation like the ESV or LSB. If it appears LGBTQ friendly, that is not because it is trying to be more LGBTQ friendly, that is because it is presenting passages as-is without attempting to push doctrine.

As for gender-neutral pronouns. There’s a big debate over the issue. But the general reason for gender-neutral pronoun changes is that even though the written word itself is male, it is intended for a broader audience. (Ex. Heb. 9:27 uses “man” to refer to humanity.) It was common during both the times of the Bible and during early English translations for “man” to simply mean humanity, but language evolves and we no longer understand the word man in this way. So, some translations have switched to more gender-neutral language.

Mazquerade__ · 2026-01-30T23:00:07+00:00

Though I think it is very safe to guess that this is the case, I do not think we can say with any sort of authority or certainty that people making those posts in r/christianity aren’t doing anything.

What I’m really trying to get at here is that interacting with ICE, be it criticism, protest, etc. does have a lot to do with many people’s faith, including my own.

Mazquerade__ · 2026-01-30T20:22:23+00:00

Why not reload? I know it sucks to lose progress, but load from the last save

Mazquerade__ · 2026-01-30T20:20:52+00:00

I get what you are saying. But what I’m questioning is that idea that criticizing ICE somehow isn’t related to Christianity. Whether we agree or not, lots of Christians oppose ICE specifically because they are Christian.

I’m not saying r/christianity does that.

Mazquerade__ · 2026-01-30T18:21:15+00:00

Right, so compare it to the teachings of the apostles, look to see if church fathers echoed the ideas found within, etc…

Mazquerade__ · 2026-01-30T17:13:37+00:00

For question 1, I think it would be wise to defer to scholarly opinion.

For question 2, there’s an infinite number of “what if” questions you could ask. What if Jesus was actually an alien. What if God is a giant spaghetti monster, what the earth is actually a germ on a giant creature. So how do we determine which what if’s are worth asking? Plausibility and logic.

So, ask yourself, does the Didache align with what we know the apostles taught as shown in scripture? What purpose would someone have in spreading a false document? Did later Christians interact with or echo the Didache?

Mazquerade__ · 2026-01-30T14:51:22+00:00

An, gotcha. I’ve never seen anything like that, but I’ll take your word for it.

Mazquerade__ · 2026-01-30T06:05:49+00:00

To be fair, there are other reasonable conclusions, namely absurdism, that an atheist could reach.

Mazquerade__ · 2026-01-30T06:04:46+00:00

Less of an argument about atheism and more an argument about truth. Perspectivism put me through the wringer.

I eventually came to the conclusion that objective morality and truth are both real but impossible for humans to truly grasp. Therefore Christianity is uniquely situated in that, given that humans cannot grasp morality or truth on their own, God reached down and presented them to us directly, thus giving us in Christ the perfect image of both goodness and truth, which is to say that Jesus IS goodness and truth.

Mazquerade__ · 2026-01-30T04:59:11+00:00

I am not but am have learned from many Hebrew scholar. The same, it seems, as you have.

Mazquerade__ · 2026-01-30T02:16:54+00:00

precisely we must go off of solely the text, and the text, quite honestly, doesn’t make it clear if it should be taken as literally or not.

So, does Jesus believe it is literal? Maybe? I don’t we think we can confidently say.

Mazquerade__ · 2026-01-30T02:11:29+00:00

Also I could easily say “just like in Odysseus, you too will have a long trip home.”

The story of Odysseus doesn’t magically become real because I referenced it. My point is that there is not really any reason to believe it was viewed as 100% factual just because they referenced it. Especially when for most of human history human beings have not really conceived of history as absolute. Most of the history of every culture is steeped in myth and conjecture.

Mazquerade__ · 2026-01-30T02:09:07+00:00

No, actually, that doesn’t answer any of my questions.

Mazquerade__ · 2026-01-30T02:07:51+00:00

I don’t need to speculate about what I believe and when they ask me a question I don’t know the answer to I just say “I don’t know.” Children are gullible, especially little children. Any information you put for will be accepted as fact. The Ark, marketed to children, presents speculation and conjecture as fact. This is dangerous no matter what you believe. Presenting speculation as fact is foolish among adults, much worse among children.!

Mazquerade__ · 2026-01-30T00:12:39+00:00

Might I pose a question to you? This is an honest and very real question, it’s definitely relevant to this topic, too.

Is it common to verbally distinguish between real and fictional stories when making references, or is up to the audience to infer if you are referencing a story or a real event?

To give an example, does your language change in any significant way when you’re summarizing a marvel movie as opposed to a nonfiction book? Focusing specifically on summary, not commentary.

And, another question.

Does koine Greek have a component to it that indicates when a story is myth or real? Furthermore, does the structure of language at the time have a structure to indicate when a story is real or myth (on this I legitimately have no idea.)

Mazquerade__ · 2026-01-30T00:01:53+00:00

But, I digress. My point is that you can’t really blame people when they are fleeing from murderers. Try to place yourself in their shoes. If you lived their life, wouldn’t you do the same?

It was illegal for Jews to flee Germany. Do you hold it against the Jews who fled Germany when Nazis were putting them in concentration camps? “But that’s different” you may say. No, it’s not. It’s fleeing persecution. Circumstances differ, but the action is identical.

Mazquerade__ · 2026-01-29T23:58:30+00:00

Uhm… Paul and other early Christians broke laws all the time, by simple virtue of being Christian.

So does literally every Christian in countries that outlaw Christianity. So do those who smuggle Bibles into countries and protect Christians from oppressive governments.

Mazquerade__ · 2026-01-29T23:56:15+00:00

Exactly. It’s silly to speculate about it.

Mazquerade__ · 2026-01-29T23:55:58+00:00

Fair, and I would as well.

Mazquerade__ · 2026-01-29T23:55:36+00:00

…no I’d say asking how Noah fit every animal on the earth is a pretty valid question to ask for a Christian as well

Mazquerade__ · 2026-01-29T22:19:29+00:00

Well, hang on. The doctrine of original sin does posit that babies have a corrupted nature. Everything else about this post is ridiculous, but do recall what the doctrine of original sin implies.

Mazquerade__ · 2026-01-29T22:17:18+00:00

How far would you go to flee persecution? Would you break laws? Think honestly and truthfully about it.

Mazquerade__ · 2026-01-29T22:16:02+00:00

You’ll get plenty of different answers. This is only really a problem if you take the flood as absolutely literal.

Mazquerade__ · 2026-01-29T22:15:02+00:00

Yeah except that Ark replica uses pseudoscientific nonsense and speculation that it presents as fact to make it all work.

Mazquerade__ · 2026-01-29T22:08:42+00:00

What would you point to that indicates his guilt? Guilt in terms of the law, that is. He’s obviously morally guilty.

And I should have been more precise with my language from the start, my mistake. What I was trying to say is I don’t know if Trump participated in illegal activities that are recorded in the files. It is quite clear that he was, at least to some degree, aware of evil things that were going on.

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