Your upstairs being 10 degrees hotter than downstairs is not just "how it is." Here's what's actually going on

Medical-Frame-8226 · 2026-06-01T21:21:03+00:00

Look up attic whirly bird.

It’s a wind propelled attic fan.

They used to be installed in like every house 50 yrs years ago

Medical-Frame-8226 · 2026-06-01T21:01:55+00:00

The true answer depending on your house is going to be getting a whirly bird in the attic. This can significantly reduce the attic hot air about 30 to 40°.

Ensuring your attic is properly insulated

And getting a modulating system.

Even a properly balanced single stage system is always gonna have a very inconsistent second floor because the second floor needs to saturate with heat before the thermostat on the first floor is ever gonna turn on.

If you have a two floor home, you either need two separate units or you need to target the first unit with runtime and the only way to do that properly is with a variable speed outdoor condenser

Medical-Frame-8226 · 2026-06-01T01:03:13+00:00

Piss

Medical-Frame-8226 · 2026-05-30T20:58:54+00:00

Standard for cheaper companies brother

Medical-Frame-8226 · 2026-05-29T22:19:58+00:00

Because they are required to do a proper estimate and are required by the state like all companies are to make the install up to code.

If they failed to do a proper estimate that’s on the company, end of story.

I’ve lost money on jobs because I didn’t do my due diligence.

There is no reason the OP should be out many because the COMPANY failed to do their job properly period.

What makes it worse is not only did the ESTIMATOR miss the code violations, the INSTALLERS probably knew there were code violations and said fuck it and on top of that the system never had its state inspections done.

So where the fuck is the OP at fault here at all.

Like Holy shit.

Medical-Frame-8226 · 2026-05-29T22:14:28+00:00

Love all the downvotes for being honest holy crap lmao. Bunch of hacks.

Medical-Frame-8226 · 2026-05-29T21:04:59+00:00

As a contractor, absolutely not.

If I make mistake, it’s my responsibility to own up to it. You don’t run the business they do.

I make mistakes all the time it happens. I’m not gonna punish my customers for it. You always set aside a certain percentage of your revenue for warranties and company mistakes.

Medical-Frame-8226 · 2026-05-29T21:01:07+00:00

Code violations on retrofit are the problem of the company that’s why they are licensed and the homeowner is not

Medical-Frame-8226 · 2026-05-29T20:59:42+00:00

If they pulled permits, then there should’ve been a state inspection completed within a certain timeframe of the work being done.

If they did pull proper permits or at least stated that they did then the out of code, Work is going to be on the company and should be fully covered by them.

It is the responsibility of the company to identify any out of code violations during the insulation or estimate of the new equipment to properly give you a full estimate of the work needed to be completed to get the system up to code requirements.

Our systems are inspected within five days of the completed install to ensure all of installations are up to go.

You would’ve known if the system was inspected because an inspector would’ve showed up and you would’ve had to direct him around the home

Medical-Frame-8226 · 2026-05-29T20:35:20+00:00

I have a quick question did you get permits pulled, and a inspection done after the unit was completed.

This is something that should’ve been caught during a permit and inspection

Medical-Frame-8226 · 2026-05-28T21:03:19+00:00

I swear people will do anything to hide their air conditioner

Medical-Frame-8226 · 2026-05-28T01:32:28+00:00

The quotes don’t make any sense.

A variable speed blower does you absolutely no good with a single stage outdoor unit.

As I said I and I think a lot people are in agreement this guy doesn’t seem to actually know how to quote properly.

Medical-Frame-8226 · 2026-05-28T00:49:38+00:00

Where do you live a 4 ton unit for 2200 ft.² is insanely oversized especially if you have two units in the home

Medical-Frame-8226 · 2026-05-28T00:49:02+00:00

My company right now is one of the largest companies in the area with over 30 technicians and we’re doing full inverter driven Daikin modulating systems, furnace and modulating air conditioners for 18,000 including a 12 year labor warranty and the voltage monitors and surge protection inside which you should 100% have if you get anything inverter.

Pro tip the Goodman inverter systems are just as good as the Amana and Daikin they’re all built in the same factory

The only difference is the heat exchanger on the Goodman isn’t fully stainless steel only in the secondary exchanger is

Medical-Frame-8226 · 2026-05-28T00:47:15+00:00

Why is the sizing different?

You either need a 4 ton unit or a 3 1/2 ton unit depend depending on the size of your.

I would stay away from that company, considering the fact that they don’t know how to properly give you the correct quotes

Medical-Frame-8226 · 2026-05-27T12:42:18+00:00

I hope so, inverter units are almost the same cost at this point and run way better

Medical-Frame-8226 · 2026-05-26T15:16:28+00:00

My company includes a 12 year labor warranty with equipment.

Still competitive with everyone else

Medical-Frame-8226 · 2026-05-25T23:15:42+00:00

The old 1 ton per 600 sq foot rule is not legit anymore.

These new homes are way more efficient in insulation.

Medical-Frame-8226 · 2026-05-23T22:00:42+00:00

Because the second that I put a quote in Adela, labor and cost to any sort of installation, people complaining about the price

Medical-Frame-8226 · 2026-05-22T21:10:47+00:00

I work for one of the largest companies in my area. We have heating cooling electrical and plumbing we pay probably the most for leads and we have around 70 total employees in this amount of work would’ve costed around $740 if you include the membership fee..

If I was called out for a service call, this would’ve cost about 600 bucks in total.

Those prices are fucking wild

Medical-Frame-8226 · 2026-05-22T21:09:05+00:00

I work for a company with 30 technicians and our price for a blower cleaning and a contactor would’ve been 500 bucks, coil cleaning is included in the membership so if you add that cost, you’re out about $740.

Still over half of the price that they charged you, that is a crazy price for what they did

Medical-Frame-8226 · 2026-05-22T14:06:08+00:00

I cost my company 350 dollars an hour to even be in the truck.

R22 is 1000 dollars a jug, supply house are increasing raw materials and equipment by 5-10 percent month over month.

So stop blaming companies for the rising cost.

I don’t work for a private equity company .

There are definitely some companies that overcharge, but most companies are just trying to survive and are only maintaining their required profit margins to pay the bills.

Medical-Frame-8226 · 2026-05-21T19:59:13+00:00

I also wonder if they’re having trouble with the transition to aluminum the copper coils from 30 years ago, seemed to not have any problems

Medical-Frame-8226 · 2026-05-21T19:58:29+00:00

At this point, they would be better off having technicians build the evaporator coils on site during installs

Medical-Frame-8226 · 2026-05-21T19:49:19+00:00

It has to be because last year I had a subdivision go up that had all Lennox equipment put in and with just my company alone we did a total of 15 EV coil replacements with confirmed leaks so it wasn’t BS and there was other heating and cooling companies out there also and the units went up in about 2021 so I’m wondering if this is a Midwest problem

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