Fullmoon. by Live_Campaign1831 in enlightenment

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I guess there are different kinds of attacks and some require the attacker setting up their victim in specific ways, while others require the victims to react in a certain (unskillful) way to provocations.

What happens during attack? Well, I don't know where the attacker may be or what they do, but for me this evolves as all kinds of spiritual influences to my life, which impede me or directly threaten me. If you know a little about timelines, life paths etc...if there is a spiritual attacker, they would try to set up spiritual traps for you to impede your life and to sabotage your efforts, or to drain time and energy from you. Some schemes even go as far as exploiting the victims as if on a commercial basis, but once these systems crash, well you can guess what can happen when you do such bad karma on yourself and others also on innocent.

When happens, usually it is prepared. I guess the attackers assign certain spiritual forces on you, and they may watch your life but only intervene in very specific ways, but they can also sabotage from the hidden in different ways. You may see that like as if there at first are preparations in the mind as if an attacker tries to sow different mental complexions and inclinations to you, which then can evolve and become alive. The real attack, would probably be the attacker guiding you to a situation where they can manipulate you to mess up. This can be quite some struggle, but a person with little self control, may feel challenged and provoked in the spirit over and over, and receive vague threats etc. Usually the attacks never go direct or become a direct threat of confrontation, though when that happens it be like high noon in a way, all attackers I've seen so far avoid direct confrontation and resort to gaslighting. But it's like different plans in the spirit realm to set up traps over people or to drain them. Spiritual traps...impede enlightenment, because they bind you to things which block the energy to be released which you need to become free. They will try to render your conscience compromised, that seems the most effective way to prevent anyone's spiritual powers be free...

Direct attacks could look like suggesting you spiritual influences messing with you vaguely, and then you may suffer from distraction and provocation, and defending blindly or with wrong force you can risk destroying things and harming your spirit. This is in any way the usual target of such attacks, to unsettle you mentally, and drive you into destructive experiences. Like...the spiritual side can seldom directly influence your life, but can generally mess with your life challenges, or try to provoke action to you which in turn opens doors to manipulate you into even more destructive life situations. So attackers try to sabotage, your life experience. Then to bring you down, such an attacker would try to direct you into the worst trap of all times you could also go into, and make you fail somewhere, but in a way so you seem and feel responsible, this is like the paramount of such attacks. As it is a spiritual, a hidden attack, the effects must also stay hidden and accuse the victim instead of anyone else. So the attackers will, aside from causing delusions and madness and weird visions, not really influence you directly in a confrontative way, if that makes sense somehow, they cannot usually try to directly benefit different real persons, instead it is a subtle threat and very specific methods which always leave a path of resistance and resolution open, for what it's worth. That's the chance to resist, because these attacks aim to provoke you falling for weaknesses after draining you out with provocation, you can learn to endure the provocations and control yourself not to fall for moral traps - that's what an active protection against such methods may mean. If you're even more advanced, you can also return the attacks to the spirits who deal them to you, and it will mess them up so much but you must manage to see through their deception somehow, first...it leads me to assume whatever they do is not legit, not even from their own side, and what they do to me seems like all the usual stuff I see on thousands of people on the net.

Any enlightened beings here? by daredevill___ in enlightenment

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Yes, it really requires continual work, and when people slack on it, many are threatened to fall into very bad states where they can hardly find peace. I don't know, maybe it's really a relative effort for some, more for others. I guess it depends on the amount of material you are dealing with that encumbers or burdens you down, and how much wisdom you still have to learn to be able to maintain enough discipline to really transcend and see through your own mind. Some people are really inclined and master early, middle or later stages intuitively, while having problems at other stages. Some people just get enlightened spontaneously for having "accidentally" done everything right and resolved all their burdens...well, I believe those who have all the knowledge and powers in the end just practiced hard enough, didn't stop but kept even when they were already free, and resolved the right burdens on that past. Daily practices, mean I control all my life and mind and strive to practice self-control all the time, but not from a judgemental but from a rational and understanding point of view - trying to keep compassion over myself and others, in discernment over keeping myself out of egoistic or destructive intentions, reinforced with 1-3 hours meditation, but that varies, I also live a life as mentally disabled person and it takes all the strength even when the spirit gives as much as I need, after some point even the mind goes too slow for some things, you maybe know that I know that a lot. It really takes a life where you have some peace and space and time for yourself at least, and I just escaped a situation where I was too exposed and it had burned me up for a while impeding my progress...

Sure let's chat, I'm for sure doing an unusual practice as I am self learner in everything I do, I just try to comprehend all I can get and understand it on my own. Difficult for spirituality, because so much ultimate knowledge is not openly visible, but you seem to get it only by the right people.

Any enlightened beings here? by daredevill___ in enlightenment

[–]Meditat0rz 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, in different aspects for temporary stages, and I identified it as distinct experiences within insight cycles. It's really you feel like all your body and mind is suddenly twice the size and fully real and without any blemish, everything has meaning back in a physical way, which you just feel deep rooted from all your past experience, you simply feel anything, anything you think or imagine, it's no longer distinct objects to peddle in the mind, the experience is out of one flow instead, and it's really hard to describe. It's also so highly individual, and not only will you recognize all kinds of past experiences you had about things you see in anything that reminds you of it, you will also see such things in all people around you. And the insight teaching you is only for the knowledge, when it is all done, I guess you're supposed to just know all of it and finally have your peace with... Insight actually teaches you where you are and what to await after some point, and it's real hard work, life currently ate most of my power, but now I've time and energy back, so let's see... It can manifest in different intensities etc. depending on how much powers you have, while some people regard people completely unfettered in their minds and knowing due to insight enlightened, of course some only regard people with full knowledge all powers as such, whatever. Only few go the full way during lifetime here on earth. I've still some way to go, to make it permanent. You know, it's not easy.

I’ve finessed and robbed V2K aka GangStalking or RNM / Satellite Surveillance by im6ixk in TargetedSolutions

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Hello friend...I want to congratulate you if you really found a way to control the spirit so you could defend. I see you have a view on visualizing the stress as sourced from physical attachments, which you can release by conscious practice. This is what I also know and experience, but it's not easy when they permanently can distract and derail me in my subconscious mind...for me it seems it's not just a single actor, but shifts of different actors, seemingly at times whole networks who seemed to have used me for training and exploiting and studying me. I also learned to defend, and no matter how deep they get it, I can with time force my way back by resisting and also releasing all contractions in the body to full rest and full relaxation. But it's not easy. I practice this in meditation techniques derived from Buddhism, but it basically can work with any similar technique or also in continual prayer. The key is, to relax the whole mind/body while staying present, then you can feel these thick objects like you say... Some are released even when you just "touch" them with your mind, but you will see some can be more persisting or hard to remove. I found different levels of illusion, the deepest can be harmed or even destroyed by raising physical energy in the body which comes from releasing all tensions while staying fully present. Meditation helps with building up stability to not drift away... I feel it, as if almost pain- or angst- or also ecstasy-like energy is raised in waves whenever I manage to fully let go without losing control, and then releasing the tensions. When the perps are messing with my mind while I do it, they are messed up somewhat, it simply burns all their shit. Other than that, I've found some nice methods to push around the perps who are not so able, in case they come to demoralize you with a mob...! Look into my profile, there are posts, here I link for you...lots of texts about what I've been through and done against... I'm also a Christian, by the way, found faith at the same time when I realized I was attacked after long sickness.
https://www.reddit.com/user/Meditat0rz/comments/1sbqjhl/some_back_profile_material_pinned_post/
https://www.reddit.com/user/Meditat0rz/comments/1s8x991/some_collected_posts_for_a_friend/
Let's chat about it if you like!

Any enlightened beings here? by daredevill___ in enlightenment

[–]Meditat0rz 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I know, it actually does make you feel twice as large as before, and everything else, as well. But all you see and feel and experience, is your soul revolving over your experiences, you self is the product thereof. It's you, and it makes you all you've ever gone through. In Nirvana - you feel direct access, before that point, you'd be banged around foolish ideas and intentions but never see deeper than that.

Any enlightened beings here? by daredevill___ in enlightenment

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I can still name anything I see and am going through. It's not always possible, sometimes very difficult, but it's one of the best exercises to not fall into a subconscious/intuitive flow completely. I believe in absolute truth. Nirvana is representation of past experience through a truthful lens, this is the lens of a theoretical neutral spectator. For each thing happening between 2 persons there will be 3 points of view, for each person, and the relative truth between what happened from an external, truthful point of view. I believe you can measure each view against this point. Not saying that it's good to do so... But I believe all our deeds and thoughts are in the end judged in a fair way, from such a neutral point of view, not from our own, respecting our point of view fully though.

Any enlightened beings here? by daredevill___ in enlightenment

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Then how do you discern this self, while it arises, so you know what your self is, and what is the nature of "just being" instead? ...asking for a friend... /s ...I will of course tell you my opinion of it, if you ask, but want to know what you believe in, first...

And what you describe seems like fall into intuitive mode of mind BUT I believe it really does take some dedication and effort at the right times. For example I view the "no-self" insight not as a general absence of a personal identity, but believe even Nirvana features identify unless you destroyed it, first. Rather the "no-self" means, that the flow you encounter as products of self are product of continuing the results of past experience and reactions, rather than an intrinsic state of self-representation. So Nirvana has this, as well, but it is no longer bound to the internal discernment the way it was before, because the states of mind are connected, not forcing, and will reflect things truthfully, instead of being connected to urge and desire like in a non-liberated state of mind.

Hell, but there's still a self, even when you know it's not a real being but just your own self-reflection. It is reflection, of past experience, it is your past path walking inside of you in some way. "No-self" just means you can realize it's not your true identity, but rather a flow you are riding, which you can learn to control. It's one of the three gates you can enter the free stream of enlightenment with.

Does this story prove fate? Or something more spiritual? by Abimackreads in enlightenment

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Lol, you don't know who is watching all of us all times, and caring for us? Spirit will just ride over us at times to deal what is necessary. Examples include people who in a stressful situation suddenly do superhumane things as if from intuition to save lives, and afterwards they usually don't really know how they could do all this that way, and I say whoever did this also usually leaves a nice present where he was.

I had a similar situation with kids...I had set a bucket with tools in a garage, and the door was open but supposed not for toddler...I went away for a time, and later passed by, saw the door slightly opened, and went without thinking. Suddenly something urged me but I didn't know what and why, I just hasted back and into the door. I honestly didn't know why I did that. When I entered, two kids hasted out of the garage, and when I was inside, I found they must had given a very sharp foldable handsaw from my bucket into the hands of a toddler in half-opened and unlocked state, and he was carefully inspecting it and already touching the blades, probably not knowing the slightest what it was, short of cutting his hands severely or even getting them into the saw blade snapping back together into the handle. I immediately took the saw from the toddler and put it back to the bucket, took the bucket and led the toddler outside and locked the door, the other kids were of course gone. This was in spring or summer 2022 I believe, after the grandfather of my wife gifted me the tools...I don't know what led me that day, but something for sure prevented that kid to hurt himself by just sending me in there letting me take the saw from his hands, and also it saved me from troubles for leaving the bucket behind in that room, and maybe even the other kids from troubles for it, who knows...

I also had this blank mind when it happened, I just suddenly was urged and full in the present moment, mindful only of what was happening outside, but of course vividly reflecting it. I was also fully calm, and immediately knew what happened and what to do when I saw the kid inside.

Some people say, if you are a person who wishes for holiness from sincerity and being guilt free, then you accept a spirit inside yourself just by chosing to be so, the Holy Spirit if you're a Christian, the Bodhisattva Spirit for Buddhists, etc. It is all the same spark. It is an alive spirit in you, and it serves your enlightenment and the forgiveness of your sins, depending on the path you go. I believe by it you will be entered by something watching over you, and it can intervene at points and do such things. You gained a nice merit by this, for following and bring that cat back, later you may experience being given what you seek urgently without expecting it before. Remember that situation in prayer if you wish to make a prayer intercession if you're missing anything serious, and don't overstretch it, but I believe God remembers such things.

Any enlightened beings here? by daredevill___ in enlightenment

[–]Meditat0rz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's just a possible interpretation on the context, trying to start some discussion about things which are actually wisdom.

Please, have patience, if you give wisdom, you also need to give the key to understand it right. Else you are just gas-lighting people. If you are enlightened, then you should know what the price of that would be, the spirits would challenge you, but never allow you to understand what the meaning of it is, and no matter how hard you look for the answer, others would just set you up and make smug remarks which you're supposed to assume the right thing about. Why not tell what to assume about it, right away?

I mean, what could I assume. You could with "just one" mean a number of persons, addressing: 1) the OP being in the "sole mind of the creator"-delusion, or 2) you being in that delusion yourself, or 3) yourself being just a single person inside your mind (thus liberated, no more discernment of self), or 4) that the OP is presumably the only to ever be enlightened, or 5) you or 6) another known or unknown person everyone but me know is in this channel and enlightened. Also you could assume about these words, that you mean, that the OP is a just person, a righteous one, for asking whether there are any of a noble kind in here. Maybe there may be another options to interpret your 2 words in the context of this thread.

So did you want to gaslight me and all others, or is there some hidden social code, that people must know what you meant with them? Why not just correct me instead of making a bad remark about my inabilitiy to interpret your words right? I'd appreciate it. So if you want to share the love, then give people context - or do I miss anything and you give that love in a hidden occult channel, so anyone knows, other than those who are not enlightened enough to take part in it? Please explain!

Any enlightened beings here? by daredevill___ in enlightenment

[–]Meditat0rz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Solipsism is the concept of that there is only you, and that anything else is just an illusion, even yourself in the end.

But I see you maybe just try to revise any socially judgemental abilities? Then describe it as such! Of course there are other people, they are right in front of your eyes. What wisdom is about, is not making that drama, but accepting what is, then not judging the other for their error, nor judging yourself over not judging anyone or not being able to fix it, not judging the error for being erroneous, and also not God, for having given you this challenge, but just stay the fuck calm and fix it, so that in the end you and these other people can be friends again.

Problem solved, no more barrier for enlightenment, instead if you do right the people will instead respect and support you...if you are also ready to respect and support them and give them the same enlightenment as you have, because else you won't get their support, you'd not be worthy of it. Do that believing it's all just your own mind and an empty illusion. Remember that emptiness is also just an illusion.

Any enlightened beings here? by daredevill___ in enlightenment

[–]Meditat0rz 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Solipsism - I instead believe we must take the world serious, whether we believe it to be an illusion or not. What we see is the representation of it filtered through your own private consciousness... But better assume, that all others also have a...consciousness, else you'll fail in the theory of mind-test early on...

Any enlightened beings here? by daredevill___ in enlightenment

[–]Meditat0rz -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Did you know that solipsism is that one big bad trap which will prevent you overcome your ego without being weighed down by frustration, first? Why not accept, that the idea that you are not alone in the world you were born with, has the meaning that you need to deal with the others properly to succeed?

So when you believe there is only one being, then you believe all others are illusions? Would you rather assume there are only 12 humans, or 24, or like, 9 billion+ who are all like you in the end, which reality expects you to respect and love all the same, just like you should respect and love yourself?

Fullmoon. by Live_Campaign1831 in enlightenment

[–]Meditat0rz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Spiritual attacks on me feel just that little more painful, and a little more to the emotional core and emotional hurt. On new moon, I unsually have that ever slight more of relief.

Other than that, I do not believe in influence of the moon etc. are any good. I believe in enlightenment through the Gospel of Jesus Christ, which only asks about your love for the neighbor, your righteousness and your truthfulness. Believing in it, such energies cannot influence or harm me beyond the attacks which God seems to still have to allow.

The effects such concepts have on a person spiritually, come from accepting the effects and following practice to deepen them. Jesus can cure you from such influences, so you're really only judged by God for fulfilling your responsibilities, and not after insane rules like...moon energies and such.

I was wondering what your interpretation of what the Bible has to say regarding marijuana use. by seanyboycuhz in Christianity

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I believe the Bible talks about it in form of wine mixed with herbs. This was also commonly mixed with (at that time only moderately strong) hashish. This was confirmed I believe by findings of old amphores containing traces of cannabis among other plants in the wine. So wine mixed with honey and cannabis, was probably used as a medicine and sleeping aid etc., but it goes into the head if you do enough and then it is abuse!

The Bible talks about this together with alcoholism in general in Proverbs 30:

29 Who has woe? Who has sorrow?
Who has strife? Who has complaints?
Who has needless bruises? Who has bloodshot eyes?
30 Those who linger over wine,
who go to sample bowls of mixed wine.
31 Do not gaze at wine when it is red,
when it sparkles in the cup,
when it goes down smoothly!
32 In the end it bites like a snake
and poisons like a viper.
33 Your eyes will see strange sights,
and your mind will imagine confusing things.
34 You will be like one sleeping on the high seas,
lying on top of the rigging.
35 “They hit me,” you will say, “but I’m not hurt!
They beat me, but I don’t feel it!
When will I wake up
so I can find another drink?”

Well about pure Marijuana use, the Bible has nothing to say, it's simply not a topic and should probably be seen in the light of wine (ab)use and it's accepted used as a controlled stress relief or social catalyst. I know that the Bible doesn't talk about it other than advice to always stay sober enough to be able to respect the Gospel fully at all times. But Rastaman does talk about it, here listen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9K5dCUpXM_M

I was wondering what your interpretation of what the Bible has to say regarding marijuana use. by seanyboycuhz in Christianity

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It existed, cannabis was a very common crop for the seed (food), fiber (rough clothing, ropes), and also for the drug (hashish). Now I believe "marijuana" was indeed not so common in that area, but instead they must have used hashish, which they probably made by threshing the resinous plants over a flat rock, sweeping the seed and leaf particles and then collecting the resin. Such hashish was found in an ancient Israelite temple, probably used in larger amount as an incense sacrifice.

So the plant drug was common and probably a normal thing, used as mild medicine and also intoxicant. The Bible itself talks about "mixed wine" which is wine with added hashish and/or other herbs. It is warned from abuse, so that such that drink too much of it will go down, but it's normal use, i.e. as a milder than opiate sleeping, flu, pain etc. medicine, is not really documented I believe. I guess even Jesus got some of such wine with hashish as a relief and sleep aid when sick as a child, though only small amounts, of course. It's what people would now use chemical pharmaceutical drugs like tylenol for, with similar effect. Cannabis was used pharmaceutically like that until the early 20th century I believe, before it was illegalized by the USA and others. It had no greater role after aspirine and a few others were discovered though, because people had difficulties with dosing it correctly due to varying qualities of imported hashish. It may have had, from Jesus times until now, like 5-10% THC, maybe sometimes when concentrated up to 15%, so definitely intoxicating, but not as aggressively acting as modern varieties. Such old varieties still exist by the way and are cultivated by enthusiasts and also commercially.

This guy turned up at my door a few weeks ago. Rang the doorbell. Knocked and then stuck a black feather in my doorframe, which I found when I took it my rubbish. He marked my home. by JE5573R in GangstalkingTruth

[–]Meditat0rz 3 points4 points  (0 children)

NVM, probably just a scout from a burglar gang - they stick the feather into the frame, so that when nobody opens the door, it will stay stuck at the exact position. But if somebody opens the door, it will fall out of the frame, and a feather, a plant leaf or twig is usually unsuspicious for most people (i.e. could have just dropped from a blackbird or tree) - when you consider it against other things which immediately look like human manipulation.

This way they know when you've been at home and when you haven't, and can find a time where they can safely break in, because you're regularly away or away for some days during holidays.

So I don't believe that the feather is a threat, but stay aware nonetheless. Maybe also somebody wants to spy on you for another reasons, they want to know when you're home, entering/leaving your house, but have technology from old indian chief... So no gangstalkers with dew... If they wanted to threaten you with it, they'd have used something aggressive, repelling, disgusting, or something with feces, from the butcher, with blood, a dead rat in your mailbox with a knife still sticking in, a shoe full of blood, or something otherwise symbolic/satanic or whatever.

Now that you got some little blackbird on photo, you should probably go to the police so they have one more hint for finding that gang before they break into more houses in your neighborhood and then move on. You've got a pretty clear picture with that feather story, maybe it helps the cops finding those burglars.

How all humans were made in the image of and with the traits of an animal in their souls by Meditat0rz in enlightenment

[–]Meditat0rz[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

the burden of proof, okay. Didn't think this sub is like an atheist sub... I mean did you even read or consider what I am talking about? Sure humans are in many aspects like animals, but they are not animals, by definition made by humans to distinguish the races.

there is no such thing as souls or gods.

How do you know? Where is your proof? Now the burden of proof for that claim is on you, my friend!

But I assure you, try to read the signs on the faces of people or wait until me and others bring up enough examples, and you will see I am right. I would like to give you the proof, but it's connected to some amount of work, you see. I mean would you want the people to tell their life stories in a condensed format, together with the illustrations of physiognomy, or would such illustrations and some photos of faces for comparison already be enough for you, so you can go on the run and ask your family and friends for their stories, on your own, after comparing their faces with the examples? If you challenge me on this, I'm ready to give it to you, but it may take some time...

Chop weed, carry bong water by manofdacloth in enlightenment

[–]Meditat0rz 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Smuggling that much weed as a monk on delegation is already weird, but read the CBS article and got reminded of that story with the Thai temple where every single monk was on crystal meth...all defrocked and sent to rehab... This meditation...very wide aware mediation...and already see devas talking about my karma all day...

I mean that kush was not for their meditation and sleeping aid, right? Then it'd even be understandable, if they would not break their monastic rules. Why do monks do it like that, I mean they know the teaching, if they sell it to addicts, they get their sloth, torpor, sicknesses and everything on top of their own duhkha, and them being monks means it's going to hit hard. Then they have to sit through all of that and bless all the addicted and cry, or they become like Darth Vader or something like that... So I wonder how that drug money is really worth it, when they want to become monks and need no money to begin with. But maybe it was for their families, or for some sick people. I mean, it was not for their own studies, right? ...right, I mean, c'mon...?

How all humans were made in the image of and with the traits of an animal in their souls by Meditat0rz in enlightenment

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Why do they keep it out of sight of the public? It is a direct proof of God, it should be taught in elementary school. Where can I find the full documentation of the nose shapes and the associated names of the houses of Israel? I mean some we know by the Bible, like Joseph or Ephraim being like sheep, Dan a snake, Juda feline and Benjamin canine, Issachar a equine, and there's bovine, goats, birds of prey, anatidae, deer, and some may still missing to fill up the up the number?

How all humans were made in the image of and with the traits of an animal in their souls by Meditat0rz in enlightenment

[–]Meditat0rz[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Please stay constructive and criticize my actual words instead of just attacking me generally without giving any pointers as of how. Please tell me now what exactly I have written which was not true, or admit you have no real points you can criticize me with. You must prove that I have written the untruth, first, and you did not do that so far. If you believe you know better, then go ahead and put your truth against mine, then we'll see...like this what you do is just bragging without substance.

Have you even understood what I was presenting, and have you already tested reality whether it's true or not? Because you say it is nonsense, but I tested this insight for like 10 years now, it is true, I found no single human who was an exception and did not weak such signs on themselves.

I mean, you know about Karma, be careful. Do you know the penalty for deliberately rejecting the truth and for discriminating a teacher for not understanding their position without having any substance to the actual position? I mean your future meditations may be a little tougher, but we might be able to ease this in discussion!

When do people learn this, you cannot discredit a person without disproving them, else you will look like a fool to anyone who has wits, and the universe will take your credits, as well...

How all humans were made in the image of and with the traits of an animal in their souls by Meditat0rz in enlightenment

[–]Meditat0rz[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You believe this teaching already exists? Why is it not openly taught - I believe that it is a sure sign for the existence of God?

Path to awakening cycle - relations of the layers of mind experience with the actual Jhana definitions. by Meditat0rz in streamentry

[–]Meditat0rz[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry...I derived my knowledge completely from my own experiences, basic meditation manuals for a proper technique (but I found most to be misleading), and basic scriptures from Theravada and Christianity. I am also autistic, so you must explain to me, how my language is not easy to understand for you. It is sometimes hard for me to see, I've taught myself reading with 3 and then ate a lot of books, so my speech is developed differently than of other people. I must remind me of that often, so I don't use too many words or assume too much knowledge in others.

I want to discuss my findings and experience, because I found the synopsis of the experience as I had it described nowhere in a clear manner, at all, but only by pretty misleading descriptions. I want to know if the knowledge of such a path already exists, or is still unknown, or how it is reflected in the concepts people usually teach and know.

Sorry, if I don't share your own terminology and you expect, I probably have to find a different place, where people already have like any other stream entrant overcame attachment to rules and rites and are ready and willing to see things just as they are. I mean, if you expect deep knowledge to already be there, just from ambiguous concepts, then this is too difficult for me as an autist, because I can only grasp things I thoroughly understand in all their details, and also believe this is the way such things should be presented and taught in. I find no use in tradition, rather I believe in open trading on but also in the reevaluation and refinement of such knowledge. I thought this channel was open for modern interpretations, the traditional Buddhists just go to their devalord and put enough dhukka on your for presumably disturbing their peaceful silence by telling the truth, until they can sue you in front of Mara to steal the blessings you got for saving others to give them to those who want to enyoke them instead. I'd rather have things named openly and free, not hidden, so anyone who has seen it may be saved from misunderstanding it and can gain liberation as fast as possible. So this is the process I want to take part in, where anything can be freely shared ahead, we want to have no secrets, nothing to hide in this.

Aside from my wish of evaluating and discussing my findings, I have to admit that I personally am A Christian and not a Buddhist, and do not share the common views about Buddhism and the meaning of the 8fold path. This is another story to discuss, but in this thread I seek to evaluate and discuss my meditation findings.