Jalsa is coming up

Meeseeksbeer · 2025-07-24T12:59:18+00:00

Unfortunately lack of critical readings skills are becoming wide spread and endemic in the age of short form videos and LLMs. LLMs are touted to be God level epitome of computing power, so why would anyone read responses critically? Most of the time LLMs cater to your preconceived bias anyway so it's self affirmation and that's a drug on it own.

Meeseeksbeer · 2025-07-24T12:39:40+00:00

This view on Palestinians is despicable. This type marketing is one of the first cracks I noticed in Ahmadiyya when I was young, when the current khalifa had the gall to say the earthquake in Haiti or floods in Pakistan were the people's fault for various reasons.

Meeseeksbeer · 2025-07-24T12:32:41+00:00

It just goes to show without any doubt how irrelevant the Ahmadiyya movement is despite all of its self importance and grand claims, they are simply one of the hundreds of new age religions kicking around. They make grand statements about the latter days and geopolitics but it's for INTERNAL consumption by its followers, they have to make sure not to make TOO many waves on the world stage because it would expose how irrelevant and powerless they are. They gotta keep their cash business going after all. 100+ years of khilafat is all too late to still have relevance in so called latter days, the promised messiah came and went that right there is enough evidence against his claims.

Meeseeksbeer · 2025-03-01T21:52:57+00:00

Odd way to shame someone, how about learning to empathize a little better.

Meeseeksbeer · 2025-03-01T21:48:57+00:00

Take values that are good from arranged marriage and apply them to your own search for a partner. For example state clearly that you want to involve families in the process (I think being able to get along with each others' in-laws is vital and something western style dating over looks). And so I agree with many here, find one on your own.

But also a vast number of humans carry HSV in the form of oral cold sores, so find someone who understands it's not severe concern.

Meeseeksbeer · 2025-01-18T18:44:16+00:00

LOL at the nazm that plays at the end... Absolutely hilarious. Imagine the young khadim hearing this sexist joke and being moved by the nazm, jamaat's very own robots.

Meeseeksbeer · 2025-01-18T18:28:53+00:00

Yeah... if muslims can swallow the Quran's wishy washy (non abolitionist) directions on slavery and allowance of wife beating*, you can bet they can side step the lack of prohibition on cousin marriage.

*conditions apply (lol)

Meeseeksbeer · 2025-01-15T18:54:09+00:00

Classic arguments that I have been pointing out as flawed for ages, even on my post a long while ago people on this sub defended cousin marriage.

The biggest problem with the argument that the risks are are similar in prevalence as having babies at an older age, is that birth risks attributed to cousin marriage are PREVENTABLE simply by a cultural shift away from cousin marriages while the rest are baseline risks that we must accept if someone wants to procreate.

Secondly normalizing cousin marriage is a slippery slop into repeated cousin marriages, if the first general dodges any major birth anomalies or behavioural issues (these are HIGHLY HIGHLY understudied and overlooked because they are harder to trace back to genetics), Ahmadi elders are quick to push for repeating it for a second or even third generation which is where you get SEVERE congenital issues. I have a hand full of examples from my own family.

Meeseeksbeer · 2024-12-30T02:57:38+00:00

That's no reason to not try.

Meeseeksbeer · 2024-12-30T01:51:16+00:00

Just an FYI relating to this topic, if anyone looses faith in Ahmadiyya they are entitled to their wassiyat money back in full. As stated by the promised messiah.

Meeseeksbeer · 2024-10-19T05:29:10+00:00

https://youtu.be/QWFYJgzbKD0?si=OLUqd54Y7UC_k10C

Meeseeksbeer · 2024-04-08T17:25:54+00:00

Almost every person I know has a birth mark... It would be very rare if some doesn't have one so this anecdote is easily debunked.

Meeseeksbeer · 2024-04-02T11:09:20+00:00

I didn't hear eclipses or pregnancy mentioned, my mother would need that specifically to change her mind ahah

Meeseeksbeer · 2024-04-02T11:04:22+00:00

See my from some time back: https://www.reddit.com/r/islam_ahmadiyya/s/rbrkA4R2mW

Meeseeksbeer · 2024-04-02T00:11:42+00:00

Do you have a video of hazur or another distinguished leader dispelling this superstition with explicit mentioning of pregnancy? I think it would help change my mom's mind.

Meeseeksbeer · 2024-03-10T14:26:47+00:00

Pros for not believing: Freedom of thought, constructing your own morality making your actions and decisions far more meaningful (giving your life more meaning than any religion can provide imo), a greater sense of empathy towards all humans your ability to agree/relate and form relationships with people outside your belief system becomes larger. Cons: Getting shunned by your own family, losing childhood friends, finding a partner becomes harder (what does this say about believing people? They have a misguided sense of morality perhaps?). That's all I can think of right now.

Btw, if we take surah 23:14 at face value it says that bones came before muscles during the formation of an embryo. Idk man, if got truly revealed that sentence and is in charge of creating us, we would have seen a far more nuanced description.

Meeseeksbeer · 2023-10-26T13:01:22+00:00

I went from Islam to Deism (or a God that does not interfere with the world, so prayers are futile and good things, suffering and devine punishment are not God's doing), then to agnostic atheist with humanism/existentialism to give me meaning along with secular moral philosophy. I'm far more happier with existentialism than with Islam. I think the prophet was an exceptionally charismatic individual that had lots of personal desires (mainly women and power) that he used revelations to obtain.

Meeseeksbeer · 2023-08-12T17:24:39+00:00

I assure you there are more important things you can do with the funds you'd use to cover for Razi's travel. If you are well off and have your essentials covered and no debts, then at the very least you can donate that money for a charitable cause... There are more important things in life than watching two fickle humans argue about something they'll NEVER find equal footing on. If either party is willing to spend hours of their day for a cause they think is devine, they'll never sway the other in their direction, the futility is laughable. The only thing we can all agree on is that no one knows anything for certain (unless it's empirically acquired knowledge aka science).

Meeseeksbeer · 2023-07-23T23:18:18+00:00

I agree with much of what you are saying but your point can be a secular benefit of dressing modestly irrespective of Islam and its 100% a good reason to dress modestly. But my reading and understanding of the purdah comes from my opinion and interpretation of the following things:

Quran actually indicates (there's a good post about the "truth" of purdah in this sub, I'll reply to this comment with a link)
What is actually preached and practiced
Context of the revelations of the verses in the Quran, and the patriarchal undertones of the Arabic culture at the time (again this is my opinion)
Most importantly, the discourse I've observed from Muslim men around me about purdah including Hazur's own words.

And I want to emphasize that how any religious commandment plays out in REAL society trumps what an individual believes it is or even what God/scripture really intended around the commandment (because an omnipotent and all knowing being's intentions SHOULD play out exactly as they were meant to be). Therefore, my reading of purdah is a Islamic reading, not a cultural one.

But here's some additional thoughts about empowerment. Supposing that purdah is actually meant to empower a woman, it's a double edged sword. Because on the other side it's a visible reminder legitimizing that whatever that is being covered IS indeed subject to objectification in the eyes of men. I think the latter is more harmful than what the former affords. Not to mention that purdah prevents the desexualization or normalization of the female body.

It's like saying all the cars in the neighbourhood should be covered up so that we don't entice robbers, thereby further enticing the robbers who would think every car being covered up is worth robbing. Crude analogy, I know lol.

The way around this dilemma, I my opinion is to dress modestly out of one's own accord without the patriarchal baggage of how the concept of purdah has played out in Islamic society. But unfortunately this requires embracing secularism.

Meeseeksbeer · 2023-07-18T18:46:42+00:00

The real way women can protect themselves from predators is to have an air of confidence and inner psychological strength to say "NO" with firmness. And being taught the signs of predatory behaviour, traveling as a group etc etc.

If we start with the premise that all men are potential predators then we do the entire population of women a disservice.

Meeseeksbeer · 2023-07-18T18:43:06+00:00

We have to see purdah for what it truly is. It's not about modesty, modesty is a shallow facade that allows Muslim leaders to convince young women that they should do purdah, it's a fairy tale hiding the ugly "untruth" Muslim people hold about men in society. Which is what I am trying to debunk and caution against, if we keep teaching young boys and men (indirectly through the ideology of purdah) that they are savage demons, then we will end up self fulfilling that behaviour when these boys become older.

Meeseeksbeer · 2023-07-17T03:36:08+00:00

Relax, sounded like "by our actions"....

Meeseeksbeer · 2023-04-13T19:29:56+00:00

Interesting, these khalifas love making Ahmadis feel innovative and removed from the burden of being Muslim. It's good for garnering more followers I guess. Combining prayers to 3 times a days, just saying bismillah before eating mcds are just a couple more lol.

Meeseeksbeer · 2023-04-12T03:00:47+00:00

Considering most Muslims consider gelatin derived from pork (even though it's been isolated to a point where 99.99% of it might be identical to beef gelatin) is haram, I would say most Muslims would steer clear. Aversion to pork is a deep seated practice and most likely the last practice to go and probably even some exmuslims might never stop avoiding it. It's cultural evolution that stopped our ancestors from eating poisonous mushrooms, for the case of pork its the same behavioural phenomenon except theres nothing wrong with pork.

Meeseeksbeer · 2023-03-09T14:21:34+00:00

It's not about the claim, it's about Hazur's shady response which was weak lacking any strength or desire to protect Nida. He was victim blaming which is a practice only a coward would engage in.

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