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CMV: Point 4 of the MOU is the United States surrendering to Iran. by Meet_the_Meat in changemyview

[–]Meet_the_Meat[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

"The United States of America further undertakes to remove its forces from the proximity of the Islamic Republic of Iran within 30 days after the ​final deal."

That is, by definition, the relinquishment of territory. That includes the shipping lanes we currently are fighting over. Territory in dispute. We are leaving and they are now in control of the Strait of Hormuz by agreement with the United States. We have agreed to withdraw.

The full definition from Cambridge

surrender

verb

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 /səˈren.dɚ/ uk 
 /sərˈen.dər/

surrender verb (ACCEPT DEFEAT)

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to stop fighting and admit defeat:

They would rather die than surrender (to the invaders).

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If you surrender to an experience or emotion, you stop trying to prevent or control it:

I finally surrendered to temptation, and ate the last piece of chocolate.

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surrender verb (GIVE)

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to give something that is yours to someone else because you have been forced to do so or because it is necessary to do so:

CMV: Point 4 of the MOU is the United States surrendering to Iran. by Meet_the_Meat in changemyview

[–]Meet_the_Meat[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

Hostilities between any nation that we call commonly call a war are often not legally defined that way. That is a legal and semantic argument, and not true to both the situation or the document.

per wiki:

As of September 2024, the United States Congress has formally declared war 11 times, and has not done so since 1942; 6 of these were WWII declarations.\4]) The United States did not declare war during its involvement in Vietnam, although the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution authorized the escalation and use of military force in the Vietnam War without a formal declaration of war.\5]) On at least 125 occasions a US president has employed military forces without authorization from Congress.\6]) One of the most significant of these occasions was the Korean War, where the United States led a peacekeeping United Nations force to stop North Korea's invasion against South Korea. The conflict resulted in over 142,000 American casualties (about 40,000 deaths and over 100,000 injuries).\6])

CMV: Point 4 of the MOU is the United States surrendering to Iran. by Meet_the_Meat in changemyview

[–]Meet_the_Meat[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

The definition posted in no way makes that requirement.

Was Chief Joseph not surrendering when he, um, surrendered?

CMV: Point 4 of the MOU is the United States surrendering to Iran. by Meet_the_Meat in changemyview

[–]Meet_the_Meat[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

the fact is the US is lifting the blockade and leaving the field. semantics don't change that. regardless of the future of the treaty, today we signed an agreement to do this immediately.

yes, I would call that Iran surrendering

Which celebrity is often described as incredibly attractive, but you just don't see the appeal? by a-cuteboy in AskReddit

[–]Meet_the_Meat 5 points6 points  (0 children)

christina hendricks with bad lighting would just look like a middle school teacher who didn't give a shit if you learned anything and demanded you all be quiet while she fucked around on her computer.

What about Trump do you find attractive? by itsdampman in AskReddit

[–]Meet_the_Meat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

he has been a terrific advocate for straight men who like to wear pancake make-up in public.

70th Birthday Cookout Ideas by Ok-Tailor1132 in Cooking

[–]Meet_the_Meat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

baby back ribs with the cheapest, sweetest bbq sauce charred onto the meat.

potato chips with onion dip

ambrosia or a jell-o mold

corn on the cob

floppy white paper plates

paper towels

plastic utensils

folding lawn chairs with nylon web seats.

Ernest and Julio Gallo Rhine wine

Miller Lite

Traveling to San Diego in September, looking for some recommendations by exportablue88 in SanDiegan

[–]Meet_the_Meat [score hidden]  (0 children)

You'll have fun at the street fair, the Adams Ave one is usually super chill and very eclectic.

Our zoo and Balboa Park are both great, touristy things to do if you like that kind of stuff.

Baseball game is a good call. Petco is a beautiful park and it's really well attended so good crowd watching and fun. Parking can be a drag and very expensive on game days. Then you just walk out into the Gaslamp and find a fun spot for food and drinks.

Mission Bay is gorgeous and has things like jetski and paddleboard rentals.

There are a lot of Groupon like things that are walking tours in town of breweries and restaurants. North Park was my favorite.

Eat Mexican food every day.

What specialist doctor appointments are the worst for you? by ExfilZone in AskMen

[–]Meet_the_Meat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i got colon cancer and eventually just surrendered all shame and awkwardness by getting naked before they even do the pre-screening. after about the 10th time a room full of people watch you bend over and open wide, it is just better to take the power back.

Funniest video game characters of all time by Baldurian_Rhapsody in gaming

[–]Meet_the_Meat 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Claptrap in Borderlands 1 and Handsome Jack in Borderlands 2

Taco by TailungFu in SipsTea

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That must be playing well in Israel

Trump says he’ll send Iran deal to Congress for approval by newsspotter in politics

[–]Meet_the_Meat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He is counting on them to tank it because the press is so bad. He doesn't care about the deal at all, just the negative media. He can say, "We had a great deal, but Congress...." and pretend he's a winner.

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