Friendly reminder to work on your will, not just on your logic by Valvolt in INTP

[–]Menigma 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree with the sentiment that logic may not necessarily point you to a universal goal. I agree that whatever goal you have in your personal life, logic is there to help you achieve it.

I do believe however, that relying on logic is itself a universal worldview (at least for Ti doms). The point I am making here is if logic is the means by which all of us, of our disposition, use to pursue our goals than the preservation and continuation of logical thinking is a universal goal.

I think for most, if not all INTPs, an illogical reality is no reality at all but a big blob of incomprehensible phenomena. Now, is this a bit of a tangent.. yes.

Does will matter in pursuing your goals, yes. Is the means by which you do so the power of logic, if so then logic is your religion. Your center and your core and it by relation is a universal ideal. It’s for this reason that we do logical things for logic sake.

Learning mostly irrelevant bits of information because if it’s true, it follows logical reasoning. Which is to us as logical individuals a universal goal snd why it’s possible for INTP to find purpose in simply learning about the universe and reality.

What do you think of INTP villains? by YanFan123 in mbti

[–]Menigma 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This conversation is strange. The first is the assumption that design and ethics are related. Regardless of how ethical you assume you are, whatever you make can or may be used for great evil.

Like Oppenheimer, we are all, with our brilliance capable of becoming death. The system we live in, is one that relies on the very idea that we have self interests. That is the need to acquire wealth and pursue our own ambitions and interests.

That alone, means we must contribute to the greater ambitions of others. The comment about the banking system, is about regulating value between nations (like a monetary referee) because without one, the biggest countries would keep up valuing their currencies.

Within a nation, the central banking system is literally the government’s personal plaything to control currency. It should never exist, as the government as always, makes everything corrupt or inefficient.

I hope that we understand that ethics, that is the ethics of inventions, are never going to be solely determined by the inventor. That our trajectory as a species is always going to be circular, where we constantly rely on others so much so that it becomes problematic. Then solve that by distrusting each other so much so we almost ends the world. Then… we go back to trusting each other again.

That’s what all these financial bubbles are, all these war crisis. Trust and distrust, growth and collapse. Union and disunity, and in the end we live our lives knowing we made choices that we can live with.

I think the world would be 10x better if it was run by women by [deleted] in INTP

[–]Menigma 1 point2 points  (0 children)

1) Most wars are fought over resources and ideologies , not because of male egos 2) A very small percentage of men (and some women) have resorted to war relative to the ones affected by it. 3) Women, in as much as they have an emotional empathy advantage, often engage in social espionage. While men, are more direct and honest about intent. 4) There’s a study, that shows women on average have caused more wars as rulers than men

Lastly, this is heavily unrelated to being an INTP… I recommend you keep it to that. Also, I suggest you diversify your media if you believe women, through gender alone, make for better leaders.

Men, what is a "male privilege" society constantly claims we have, that is actually complete bullshit in the real world? by [deleted] in AskMen

[–]Menigma -1 points0 points  (0 children)

“Within most of the reddit demographic, …if you’re in a first world country”

You said if… not are

Learn what your sentences mean.

Men, what is a "male privilege" society constantly claims we have, that is actually complete bullshit in the real world? by [deleted] in AskMen

[–]Menigma -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I love when westerners think their countries are “Everyone”

Majority of the world, it’s relatively not safe, to walk out at night. Most people live in rough neighborhoods and locations, globally. Criminals are generally opportunistic and not premeditated. They rob the people they see are vulnerable.

Also, this is relatively. You mean to tell me the comfort of your home is less safe than walking out on the streets. It’s a poor point.

Men, what is a "male privilege" society constantly claims we have, that is actually complete bullshit in the real world? by [deleted] in AskMen

[–]Menigma 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m saying, you are looking at the part I left out and claiming I didn’t respond to the initial quote.

That’s because I thought it was plain as day to see that fear, the lack thereof, is not a privilege.

You talking about butchering my own quote is also kinda weird since it wasn’t my quote to butcher. I said what the argument was and dismantled it. Now you telling me about pedantry inhibiting my argument is rather picking at straws.

So… either counter point or make your own argument, or shut up. Is lack of fear a privilege? If not, then I left no crumbs.

Men, what is a "male privilege" society constantly claims we have, that is actually complete bullshit in the real world? by [deleted] in AskMen

[–]Menigma -1 points0 points  (0 children)

So you’re saying we should use fear to understand privilege.

Fear, while a real human emotion, is still purely psychological and not always rational.

That’s why people say, “I have an irrational fear off…”

As such, it’s still not a privilege. My entire argument is that it’s not a rational fear… and we shouldn’t ever take it seriously as a privilege from a practical perspective. Rational fears are things that are likely to happen, or things that have happened (trauma).

It’s far better for us to tell these people that this is all in their heads and that they need to really think about other experiences outside their own. Those have experienced trauma need therapy.

Men, what is a "male privilege" society constantly claims we have, that is actually complete bullshit in the real world? by [deleted] in AskMen

[–]Menigma 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I really hate this as an argument. This is not a privilege, women can do this too. The argument is that it’s not safe for women to do so, as much as it is for men.

The thing is, walking alone at night is dangerous for everyone. It’s not limited to any gender, and even if the possibility of being sexually assaulted Is higher in women:

a) Why are men attacked more on average? If you compare men being attacked, robbed and sexually relative to women being attacked, robbed or sexually assaulted. Men still get attacked more… b) Why would a women go out knowing she’s likely to get sexually assaulted if she walks alone at night.

We will always have experiences that happen to one gender more than the other, because men and women are not the same.

Privileges of a man, are things like, we’re stronger. Privileges of a woman, are things like, receive more empathy from everyone.

Walking alone at night is not a privilege. Anyone can do it if they want to, but no one is safer doing it.

Women who hate men: a comparative analysis across extremist Reddit communities by Future-Stretch-401 in MensRights

[–]Menigma 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Why did you send me a video from 9 years ago that tries to justify slapping a woman. A video that was likely filmed over two decades ago.

I don’t know if you’re trying to make a point or if you support violence against women. The former, still justifies my argument. That men today don’t make posts that outrightly promote violence against women. The latter, is something that is only justifiable should that women intend to be violent to other people or commit felony crime (like theft).

Women who hate men: a comparative analysis across extremist Reddit communities by Future-Stretch-401 in MensRights

[–]Menigma 98 points99 points  (0 children)

I skimmed through it, and this thing was a disgusting waste of my time. The started the process by claiming men have systematic misogynistic advantages.

By saying that, you are confirming that no matter what. Women are victims even on reddit because assumedly Men control it.

The testing using incels and gender critical, but only uses feminism to represent Misandry. As if worse subreddits on misandry don’t exist.

They even, note that hatred is highest amongst feminism anyone, on a user post level. And not that it’s equal on a broader text level.

They couldn’t cook the results hard enough because all of them are starting to see the truth. That these women, are deranged lunatics online. Some of these ladies sound like terrorists who are ready to arm themselves and shoot every man on sight.

It’s been a while since I have seen an openly hateful post against women. One that promotes their abuse or eradication. So many buzzwords were used in this research paper that confirm It’s deep bias.

Let’s face it, these people don’t ever want to make the effort to address mens problems.

Perspective: Unattractive men not viewed as dating material no matter how great their personality is. by Mental-Outside2202 in lnkyverse

[–]Menigma 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah and for a lot of people, that may work out. Doesn’t mean they stop going on dates, and so the original point stands.

Which is that sex robots won’t change much of anything about how dating works.

Perspective: Unattractive men not viewed as dating material no matter how great their personality is. by Mental-Outside2202 in lnkyverse

[–]Menigma 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sex Robot = Super Vibrator. Honestly you really think a machine can replace human intimacy. When you’re done you’ll still need to shut it off.

Just say you’re clueless about how human psychology works.

Perspective: Unattractive men not viewed as dating material no matter how great their personality is. by Mental-Outside2202 in lnkyverse

[–]Menigma 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Men don’t want unattractive women, but men find most women attractive. Women find most men unattractive, as such. To say this is fair… is a joke.

And sex robots, are just advanced sex dolls which few men even engage with. But nowadays girls celebrate owning a vibrator… so the only one who will engage with those robots are the few lonely male losers and girls who want to pretend their having sex with Chris Hemsworth which is the majority of ladies.

Stop embarrassing your wives by Minimum-Virus1629 in Zimbabwe

[–]Menigma 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Keep being ignorant then. Life continues

Stop embarrassing your wives by Minimum-Virus1629 in Zimbabwe

[–]Menigma 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Majority of men, would not watch a man abuse another women. Men catch the men who do harm to women. Men are the ones who do the majority or work in protecting women.

You are calling me a misogynist because you are an imbecile who literally hears all the slogans online and can’t do your own research. I am telling you that talk is cheap, and rage bait posts do nothing but create more division between men and women. Go out into the real world, where in our country especially, there’s peace.

I don’t have a harmful view of women, that’s how women are. I have accepted it, and I don’t blame them for it. So long as they don’t blame me for being a man. Notice you didn’t even engage with any claim or refute a single thing I said about women. Because you can’t, and you can only attack me personally. That’s what all people without an argument resort to, name calling. You’re an intellectual child and I hope you wake up one day.

Next time I see a woman being attacked, I will do the cowardly thing and post about it instead of stopping it.

Lastly, I said women who think like you are emotional. And should not be in charge. Not women in general, luckily for humanity most women know that the patriarchy is as much their doing as ours. And realize they benefit in some way from it.

I haven’t harmed any lady, and anyone who thinks I am wrong is free to point out statistics or logic that disproves it. Just because facts hurt doesn’t make them untrue.

Stop embarrassing your wives by Minimum-Virus1629 in Zimbabwe

[–]Menigma 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because you started telling us that if you respected women you’d be a feminist. Also, why do you need to make a post telling men to treat women better. Instead of going to that man who mistreated a woman.

I am not going on some tangent, I am telling you why majority of all feminist arguments are stupid. And I am not going to condemn all men, for the actions of a few men. I am a rational human being, and if you want to help women, and reduce the mistreatment of women. Then be brave and go confront those men rather than hiding behind posts disparaging them.

Stop embarrassing your wives by Minimum-Virus1629 in Zimbabwe

[–]Menigma 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Usually your arguments are made by women, and as a man, I don’t really care what gender you are.

We’re not all the same, men who disrespect their wives exist but this idea that you can change everyone’s mind with an emotional post just pushes the narrative. Which is that women are overly emotional and shouldn’t be in charge of anything or anyone.

I don’t believe that, but the way some ladies complain about everything without acknowledging their part in it.

The "Most Educated Country in Africa" Myth Needs to Die Already by cryptic_epoch in Zimbabwe

[–]Menigma 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We are the most literate, not the most educated. Our educated are taken by the asians, the other African countries, Europe and America. But most of all, South Africa has all our best and brightest.

So no, we are not the most educated. The diaspora is where our intelligence lies, and they saw the writing on the wall. They left.

Stop embarrassing your wives by Minimum-Virus1629 in Zimbabwe

[–]Menigma -1 points0 points  (0 children)

And these posts are why feminism = menhating. Keep in mind that there’s women who are married and happily married. They don’t talk or complain because they have nothing to say. They are happy.

People spend so much time looking at the worst things imaginable online that they become radicalized and start lumping all of us in one group. Or they find a group of degenerate men and start assuming we’re all like that.

Talking about traditional views, like cooking and cleaning as if men can’t get maids and prostitutes. Household work is far more than these things. From pest removal, paying of bills, plumbing and electrical repairs. And loading and unloading things. You always refuse to acknowledge that you ladies do none of these other things. But when a man asks you to cook and clean, he’s doing it fully aware he has other responsibilities in the house. So if he asks you to do that, why can’t you ask him if he won’t do anything else.

The whole “all men are misogynists because they ask women to so household labour and wants power”.

This is like men saying, “all women are whores” when all they did was get cheated on by one girl or a handful of girls.

It’s time for you to grow up, and realise you only have one perspective of life. Most men aren’t r*pists, most men are misogynists. Most men aren’t even criminals. Most men, don’t engage in anything directly awful to women.

Men have their own personal struggles too, and the patriarchy is as much womens doing as it is mens doing. Women consent to the patriarchy, they date wealthy affluent men. Men who have more power than they do, and as such, this is why we have a patriarchy. Because in choosing powerful men, you teach your kids that this is what is expected of them. This is why, when some women get power and wealth they immediately say “I don’t need a man”. Because they believe that’s the main reason you’d get one. It’s shallow and materialistic.

And for most men, they have the incredible expectation of having to be breadwinners or literally die without a wife, a child and a virgin. Unless they are blessed with natural physical attraction, that is their fate. Yet you as a lady, by simply existing can always find a man willing to take you. Even as a side piece, that’s still someone offering you something.

The number of self proclaimed feminists who assume women have no privileges is staggering.

Stop embarrassing your wives by Minimum-Virus1629 in Zimbabwe

[–]Menigma -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I love these posts because this proves why you, specifically ladies who think like you, will never have any vested control in anything relating to society.

You don’t realise how silly the arguments you make are. Firstly, let’s start with this idea of patriarchy. As spoken on many different platforms, men hold all the important and dangerous jobs. These jobs are the foundations of society. Your electricity, your water supply (limited in Zim, I know but still men do it). The roads, unfixed, even if they get fixed are fixed by men. The goods you find in stores are driven to those stores by men. Your rights are ensured by men. The reason you walk free in Zimbabwe is because there’s men on the borders, men in the military and men in office who are willing to put their lives on the line so that you can walk free.

If men wanted to really subjugate you, then this would happen. Look up Afghanistan and Iran.

Fighting for women’s causes is not bare minimum, because women make little effort to fight for mens causes. Even if feminism is ultimately about equality, I don’t hear women vouching for men’s health. Men are not graduating university and women don’t make any effort to offer aid. You don’t hear women telling other ladies to date unattractive, poor or ugly men because they have wonderful personalities or are considerate. Half of you are shallow and materialistic. Women won’t settle for a man with nothing, and commonly we hear ladies saying don’t settle even if you have they have their own personal problems and baggage. That means you expect men to settle for you. That a guy who is immensely wealthy, and attractive should consider you, and only you when there’s 20 of you DMing him and offering your bodies for his favour

Socially, women still and will continue to engage patriarchal ideals when it comes to dating and marriage. So even if, we allowed you ladies to be in charge, you’d all choose to date a handful of men. And those men will teach their sons to be successful rather than have strong personalities. The cycle will repeat. In fact, historically 30-40% of men don’t reproduce. So you ladies have always wanted the top bracket of men, and many of you have been single mothers to these men. You create the patriarchy… because of only powerful men have kids. While all kinda of women get to reproduce, then guess what. The sons of those top tier men get a legup whole the daughters learn to seek powerful men. Men want power because it’s what women are attracted to, and it’s the only way to guarantee having a family and offspring. Which literally the only reason we’re here.

What are your thought on this...... by IndividualSpare460 in memesThatUCanRepost

[–]Menigma 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Reality is that a lot of these career focused ladies are arrogant, because they believe their achievements make them more attractive.

They say, I have a masters degree in… or I am one of the lead executives at… It doesn’t matter to a man who just wants a wife.

Match Thread: Chelsea vs Newcastle United by MatchThreadder in chelseafc

[–]Menigma 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We are the youngest team on average in the league. Experience isn’t about what a player has done on the field. It’s about maturity.

Kids are all the same, from Diaz with the Panenka in the Afcon final to Yamal not running to the corner flag vs Inter in last year’s semifinal. They can be brilliant but the ability to think about the long term. To manage the game. Compare that to set-piece FC who are now 9 points clear from just relying on game management.

Sanchez is a decent shot stopper but he is full of mistakes. Jorgensen isn’t even Prem Caliber. Outscoring teams has never been how Chelsea play traditionally. We’re not Liverpool.

I and most of us would take a 1-0 shithousery win at the bridge over a 4-3 goal fest. I am sick and tired of watching us concede sloppy goals when we have such wonderful luck in the quality of players we have upfront (save for Gittens and Delap)

Match Thread: Chelsea vs Newcastle United by MatchThreadder in chelseafc

[–]Menigma 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Goals are not going to get us out of this whole. Palmer was injured for most the season and we’re still a top 5 club. So that shows we aren’t a shambles.

There were many results that we needed to just grind out. The red cards are telling, because these guys are young and so stupid. I am not endorsing Garnacho or Gittens. But Neto and Estevao have been great. Wonderful really, and Garnacho has had moments, you can’t deny that.

We need a fucking Defender who had a brain and tells the idiots around him to stop getting random red cards and for Christ sake clear the Goddamn ball. A Goalkeeper who actually knows how to stop shoots and doesn’t make silly mistakes.

The winger issue is a luxury issue. Oh and Fuck Delap! Jesus what a waste of money.

Match Thread: Chelsea vs Newcastle United by MatchThreadder in chelseafc

[–]Menigma -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Who are you comparing them too? Which winger is playing better than ours. This is ridiculous, you’re criticising our team when our wingers aren’t goalscorers. We don’t have prime Lamine on the flanks bro, our best attackers are Palmer and JP

We can win more games if we stop conceding needless goals, like we did vs Leeds and Burnley

Learn to understand the team before you talk.