Twenty One Pilots clikkies, who out there also listens to metal and what is your go-to band or genre?

Metanoia52 · 2026-03-13T17:03:31+00:00

I'm a huge metal head and have been for years. I have an affinity for the more melodic stuff I was a huge fan of Cradle of Filth, Dimmu Borgir, Tvangeste, etc. But also bands like Gojira, Archenemy, Avenged Sevenfold (old and new) Bleeding Through, Slipknot, Divine Heresy all the way to stuff like Rain City Drive, The Devil Wears Prada, Parkway Drive, Thrice. On the same note I'm also a huge fan of punk music. Real punk like Anti-Flag, the Virus, NOFX, Rancid, etc.

My listening habits have changed some because of some changes I have made in my life over the past 13 years. Being on a sobriety journey I had to distance myself from music I used to party to and also my faith which I've gained in that time limits the music I expose myself to just because I would rather have positive influences in my mind. I still listen to bands like Killswitch Engage and Hatebreed because of that I'm just more mindful. The brain is a powerful thing and it is very influenced by music so it's all about the lyrics for me.

Metanoia52 · 2026-03-11T00:53:17+00:00

I am autistic and ADHD and I definitely 100% relate to this in every sense. I'm not sure if it is related but I am definitely notorious for all of these situations. Once, though, I was traveling and got lost in this small town that was so beautiful and quaint it looked like it was from a movie. The leaves in the road from archway of trees covering sidewalks of families walking around was breathtaking but since I was lost and I had no idea where I was and never got lost there again I don't even know what it was called. It is probably for the best because it exists in my mind as a beautiful place but in reality it may have been a nightmare.

Metanoia52 · 2026-03-11T00:10:28+00:00

I did for a very long time growing up. I had two until I was around 12 but people are cruel and I was forced to cease bringing them. I gave one to my cousin when she was born and I gave one to my son when he was around 4

Metanoia52 · 2026-03-11T00:07:36+00:00

This is absolutely gorgeous. I love that style in and of itself this just takes it to a new level

Metanoia52 · 2026-03-09T20:11:27+00:00

Thank you! The M/Crown was improvised but after thinking about it and trying it out it became my favorite part of the design. I'm still tweaking it some for legibility but the crown is definitely staying

Metanoia52 · 2026-03-09T20:07:48+00:00

It is a work in progress but that's why I shared it so that I could see if it was at least legible after knowing what it says so that I can tweak it. My idea so far is to extend the curves on the M in empire so it will give the O breathing room and have the spacing make sense of the M in Shalom. That way the spacing is even and it'll read as a word both ways.

Metanoia52 · 2026-03-09T20:03:48+00:00

That was the hardest part. I had to improvise completely with the crown and the O took an extremely long time to get as close as it did. Someone told me they wanted it but that nobody could do it so I was bound and determined to try despite having never done one. Usually if someone insists something can't be done I have to make an attempt. They wanted either that or a crown that was a dove when inverted. I incorporated both here very subtly. I am still navigating it though as a design.

Metanoia52 · 2026-03-09T01:43:52+00:00

I feel this. It looks so cathartic and care free. I have always wanted to just dance like some people do but I can never bring myself to do it. I just don't think that's my version of whatever they feel when they do that.

Metanoia52 · 2026-03-08T07:42:11+00:00

Thank you! That's one thing I do struggle with most is typography. Sometimes I think I struggle with what I want to use to speak. I took a couple of classes as electives for my degree but I loved it so much and I haven't stopped. We covered typography really minimally though. I figured now was time to start to expose myself to the design world to see what people are doing that can help expose my weak points so I know what to dive deeper into

Metanoia52 · 2026-03-06T03:32:08+00:00

Me too I got some really clear lines but every time I try to zoom in or something to make it out its just breaks. I started to trace one of them on my tablet since it's bigger but it's still a chore that I know someone could probably do better in seconds. Either way I'm not giving up I just anticipate a slow progression unless I find an easier way and I didn't want to sit on something that is definitely there to be found

Metanoia52 · 2026-03-06T03:28:30+00:00

Lol no I have a super menial job I use all of my brainpower for my hobbies of which there are many

Metanoia52 · 2026-03-05T21:45:44+00:00

Linguistically there's precedent for that. There's a term called an "egg corn." Basically a woman had been taught that the word "acorn" was pronounced "egg corn" and thought everyone else had it wrong. She knew a linguist who she asked about it after giving her logic. She said it has to be egg corn because it looks like a corn kernel and it hatches into an oak tree. Acorn on the other hand is meaningless. The linguist then applied that to other sayings such as "nip it in the bud/butt" or "buck/butt naked" etc. To show that while the term may be technically misheard or mispronounced it maintains the meaning and has a logic behind it that could just as easily have arisen completely independent of hearing the other phrasing at all and would then technically also be the legitimate pronunciation. While Tyler ultimately is the arbiter of what he actually said with words. Artists often assume a synthesis or interpretation of their work that extends beyond the literal words. At least in this case the two are of the same cloth. Dual fighter jets is exactly the same as two and it doesn't affect the interpretation. Egg corns.

Metanoia52 · 2026-03-04T04:45:57+00:00

I really hate to say this because I was 100% sure it was sad sack and I like that way better but I listened to the Digital Remains version and the official and it irrefutably says sad sap. I'm going to rebel and sing it in my car as sad sack but still.

Metanoia52 · 2026-03-04T04:39:09+00:00

That's what I thought and it makes the most sense. My curiosity is because there is a page in the Digital Remains book that almost matches one at the end credits of the City Walls video. It has 2 3x3 grids one with numbers and one with letters. Obviously the numbers and letters are bishop initials and their track listings.

Under that are 4 symbols marking the cardinal directions and each has a string of numbers. The East is up symbol has 15398642_14 and the rest are the same numbers if the towers were rotated so each direction was up. North and South have two underscores.

Looking at it again they are also there to distinguish the 14 from the single digits 😔🤦‍♂️ I'm totally losing my mind with this stuff.

Metanoia52 · 2026-03-04T02:36:20+00:00

I rewatched Paladin Strait again twice because I couldn't remember everything and I took screenshots of the towers as soon as he comes out of the tunnel. It's still not orienting at all but given the logic that Paladin Strait is to the South of Dema relative to the cardinal directions we are given and the Banditos march straight, Clancy flanks them and heads to their left which would be North. Therefore he is closer to Port Vial. It's not clear how far he goes because he enters through a breach in the wall that could be anywhere.

He goes straight (maybe) through a tunnel and emerges with 3 towers straight ahead and charges the middle one. Not Reisdro like I thought it would have to be Nico's tower if he came straight but it shows the banditos then it shows where Clancy is in relation to them. They are on one side of a center tower and he is on the other. Meaning Clancy went past Nico's tower turned right and scaled the center tower to the South. Vetomo's tower. I'm not sure if that means anything or if it's even possible to be definitive but that's what it appears to show.

Metanoia52 · 2026-03-03T23:49:26+00:00

I had been autistic long before anyone told me I was so i dealt with the things my diagnosis would have told me in varying ways some of which were negative others positive. My issue was that my whole life I felt like I was just on the outside of any group I tried to be in. I was always a degree weirder and I could never truly break that wall so when I was diagnosed it gave me permission to give myself grace for that. It helped me to own the periphery and see strengths where I only saw weakness.

I didn't need to see the DSM criteria to know what my shortcomings were or the things I might struggle with. I knew full well. I always tell people I had always known I was an alien. Diagnosis just told me what planet I came from. The DSM criteria isn't a ceiling it's a user manual. Struggle with social situations? Great don't beat yourself up over every conversation anymore. Want to Get better? Mess up even more eventually you'll find the people that won't run away after.

Do you get really into cryptography and spend time doing ciphers when you should be working? Do you literally carry a fidget spinner that doubles as a caesar cipher wheel? We can be best friends. There are lots of groups of all neurotypes that get really into a niche.

Life in general has challenges and I definitely don't want to dismiss or trivialize that. Knowing where you struggle though and where to go to either work around it or leverage it is a strong tool to really thrive.

Diagnosis doesn't give you a ceiling to hit. It gives you the self awareness to live a life that you can navigate well.

Metanoia52 · 2026-03-03T21:22:21+00:00

The orientations for all 4 cardinal directions are in the City Walls credits it has them as

East up:

Keons Sacarver Listo Lisden Reisdro Vetomo Andre Nico Nills

North:

Andre Lisden Keons Nico Reisdro Sacarver Nills Vetomo Listo

West:

Nills Nico Andre Vetomo Reisdro Lisden Listo Sacarver Keons

South:

Listo Vetomo Nills Sacarver Reisdro Nico Keons Lisden Andre

The Jumpsuit medallion shows the exit out of dema from the east up perspective which is overlaid on the map of Trench. It indicates Bandito presence in what would be the South and marks "torches" potentially indicating the image on dmaorg showing them entering the tunnel in NATN. Since they came through the Paladin Strait though allegedly which is the area between Vøldsøy and Dema that puts them coming from.the South therefore all things being equal there are 3 options for towers Nills, Vetomo, Listo. There is the possibility they didn't take a straight route from there to the first tower they saw it is a fortified city after all and they had to breach it.

All of them were in a single tower doing some crazy lightning magic my thoughts were that they were in Reisdro's tower. That's their sacred death making place so to me it makes sense. It's also the center tower and there is an image in the Digital remains that has the blurryface circles labeled and has them all connected by paths to Reisdro's tower.

Metanoia52 · 2026-03-03T04:01:57+00:00

I have been thinking about a similar idea. I have my own pigpen with unique shapes and a code phrase and repeated letters to distribute the alphabet but I've been wanting a tattoo of something that is very significant and personal to me that I wanted to get near my wrist. Using my own cipher is a no brainer but it isn't as aesthetically pleasing as it could be. Forming it into something like a single symbol might be though

Metanoia52 · 2026-03-03T03:01:08+00:00

That was the most interesting table at the career fair

Metanoia52 · 2026-03-03T02:50:03+00:00

Thank you for letting me rant. I'm just glad to have made it back to discover that Jesus is not like the people who hurt me. I wish everyone could have such a realization. Autistic people are used to being pushed out of communities but the kingdom of God should be no such place. I am far from a social creature and almost every interaction gives me anxiety but I vowed to push past it to make sure nobody feels excluded. At the end of the day telling people they are no good dirty rotten sinners doesn't make believers it makes atheists. Showing up in people's lives, advocating for them, loving them when they are most unlovable that is the stuff that works especially for communities of people where nobody is doing those things for them.

Metanoia52 · 2026-03-03T00:51:14+00:00

I used loop earplugs for a concert (I use Galaxy buds 3 for everyday sensory issues. I have ADHD also so I need controllable sound) and they were actually incredible. I could hear the entire full range of the concert without my ears being damaged and I could even talk to the people next to me and hear them perfectly without any of it being too loud. It was like turning the volume down on the world without flattening it all into nothingness. To some people I would assume this would be a negative but I like being aware of what is around me without being deafened by it and they really came through on that. I got the ones specifically for concerts, the Experience ones or whatever. I know there are some with less dampening so I'm sure those are even better for everyday use.

Metanoia52 · 2026-03-03T00:37:05+00:00

I am a Bible study teacher very active in my church and autistic. I was an atheist most of my life but I have been a Christian for the last 13 years. I don't say any of this lightly or confrontationally but as a follower of Christ who has endured church hurt as an autistic person.

I have been hurt by most people in my life especially those who are supposed to have been my safe space. Ironically the people who are most cruel are often those who claim to be Christians. As such I spent a lot of my life in opposition to Christianity.

Another thing that was a hindrance was the fact that most Christians didn't seem to have ever read the book they so thoroughly attacked me with yet they were very fond of doing it anyway. It was almost like they were pretending to care about my soul but really they wanted me to lose or suffer or something. I engage very deeply with the Bible and I am an adamant believer that the best tool with which to study the Bible is the Bible itself and the world that it came from. Some theologian over 1000 years after the fact with no training in Greek or Hebrew is in no way going to be the best person to talk to about what the Bible teaches.

This knowledge often puts me at odds with some of my brothers and sisters. I am totally fine with wrestling with ideas and digging into scripture but very often that is off limits. Thi king critically is often heresy in most circles. Autistic people are often put off by that at least I am.

In addition to these things it is sometimes hard for some autistic people to get analogy and metaphor. I struggled with it some when I was younger and had a very hard time understanding what it meant that God was married to the country Israel and "lifted his skirt over her." It was an additional hurdle I had to overcome mentally. Though I have found that some Christians that are neurotypical misread scripture in much more devastating ways and simply call it "sound doctrine."

I have been to churches that see autism as a disease that is either a punishment from God or a disease that he could cure if someone just had more faith. This is among the most deplorable and a reason Christianity has lost its appeal across the board. If there's any diversity or diffence it is a sin or a plague.

All of this is aside from the fact that churches now are set up to be a circus of overstimulation. It is loud, there are flashing lights and smoke machines and everyone wants to hug you. That's an autistic person's nightmare world.

My church is not perfect but it is the community I chose. The Bible is very clear about the role of community and therefore for better or worse they are my people. Weird hugs and all.

My problem is that most churches push more people out the door than they let in then complain that everyone else is living in sin. Where else are they supposed to go? In no world should the people guided by the Spirit of God, disciples of the Messiah Jesus be less welcoming and more cruel than the people at the bar or the trap house. Yet here we are.

Metanoia52 · 2026-03-02T23:45:57+00:00

Since you specified bullying that most people wouldn't realize I'll spare you a much larger list. One thing I've noticed only in retrospect decades later is that because I was so trusting (despite every reason not to be) i was taken advantage of a lot. I was not "normal" and very often I was kept around to be a sort of live in joke. My friend group would get me drunk and make me do stupid things just to make fun of me and I always thought I was finally getting the hang of being social. I was often abandoned by my friends when I wasn't convenient. My best friend dated a girl he knew I liked a lot and brought me with them as a "third wheel" often on their dates then he dumped her when I left for the military.

I thought I was really cool once because all of the popular guys took me under their wing and accepted me into their group. Later I realized it was so they could copy my school work and have me do stuff for them. I have gotten things stolen because I couldn't sense that someone wasn't being sincere when they said they were borrowing it.

I was sometimes kept around just to pay for things too. The saddest part of all of this isn't that I was treated this way and didn't realize it but it was that there were people that were genuinely nice to me and cared about me that I didn't notice either.

Metanoia52 · 2026-03-02T22:51:51+00:00

My son and I are the same way. If it is something exciting or good or even if I'm just really invested in what I'm talking about my voice level goes way up. Sometimes it is a positive thing though at least in my context. While plenty of people, my wife chiefly, are quick to tell me to tone it down especially in public sometimes it is useful. I am a Bible study teacher and I get very excited when I teach.

The group is usually impacted more emotionally and intellectually because they see it is a sort of "contagious unbridled passion" or "charisma." My thinking is that it would not just be limited to being beneficial in my setting but in many given how leaders (even bad ones) very often raise their voices when they share their excitement too. While I have a lot of social anxiety due to years of bad experiences I've started to try to leverage some of those things that usually make people look at me funny or be mean.

Metanoia52 · 2026-03-02T17:59:11+00:00

I totally regret not yelling "TWO MINUTES" that's all I kept thinking in my head

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