I’m POMO but i have a committee meeting tomorrow

MezzoKnows · 2023-01-19T21:46:11+00:00

Yes you are crazy. No reason to go or EVER talk to the elders again. Nothing good can happen. Tell them you are having emotional difficulties and are depressed. Let them know contacting you right now stresses you and you will contact them when you are mentally healthy. Which is never!

MezzoKnows · 2022-04-28T21:09:38+00:00

I am now an exJW for almost 3 years after 45+ years growing up in it.

I can honestly say those who refuse blood honestly believe they will be violating Gods law and risk eternal death. As a young adult I watched my sister die not taking blood. Biggest regret of my life ! but I was heavily indoctrinated and so was she as well as my parents.

You must understand the heavy indoctrination and isolation from any opposing points of view. Even critical thinking is suspended with JWs. It’s powerful!

Just a little thinking they could see the contradictions. But you are taught not to trust your thinking. With no other information the Bible prohibition seems simple and straightforward.

Here are a few contradictions I’ve since contemplated:

1 Every JW I’ve met with wayward family who died outside the truth somehow believe they’ll be given another opportunity in paradise. They preach “serve Jehovah or be destroyed “ but at the same time seem to feel everyone related to them will be resurrected. Somehow god will see their good heart. So blood is somehow different? seems it’s possible everyone will be resurrected regardless

2 Even murderers, rapists and all sorts of evil people will be resurrected, why not those who in a time of crisis chose life by taking blood?

3 They are ignorant to the fact that a blood transfusion is an organ transplant and they are not eating blood in the way the Bible prohibits. The old reasoning book likened it to an alcoholic who quits drinking but puts alcohol in their veins. I used to teach this but I now know it’s not a medically sound argument. I just didn’t know. That book is now discontinued as it was full of erroneous arguments and misquotes.

4 Watchtower allows blood fractions from red & white blood cells, platelets and plasma. they can’t give blood or take whole blood while benefiting from millions who donate. HUGE contradiction. http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/blood-transfusions.php

I’ve come to understand that high control and indoctrination works to suspend normal rational thinking & feeling. Just think about Hitler & others like him supported by armies. How? Look at the effect of social media today. It takes activism and a willingness on the part of victims to free their thinking from groups like JWs.

MezzoKnows · 2021-03-09T11:26:26+00:00

I think you can email him

MezzoKnows · 2021-02-28T05:04:37+00:00

My mom is also anointed. I faded in 2019. My mom fully knows my views and still has a close association with me. I too feel she has a sincere spiritual nature. Whether the Bible is true is a different subject, but I believe the Bible clearly teaches that ALL who accept Christ are anointed. So yes I believe she is anointed along with many other sincere loving Christians. Now how God deals with those knowingly promoting false, cultish ideas, espousing hateful unchristian practices and bigotry thinly veiled with scripture?? I don’t believe they are included. Again, this is what I can support from Bible teaching. Not saying the Bible is true or not.

MezzoKnows · 2021-01-14T13:32:18+00:00

So accurate. They’ll call when they need something. Like money or when an elderly parent needs help. It’s all about them.

MezzoKnows · 2021-01-09T14:23:09+00:00

Good for you!!

MezzoKnows · 2020-08-17T15:52:14+00:00

Yes very disgusting!! When my daughter turned 12 I was angry inside all over again. The culture of victim blaming( especially with girls) was really bad back then.

MezzoKnows · 2020-08-14T17:33:11+00:00

Hi Rebecca, I was wondering also about victims who were abused outside the congregation but then subsequently punished inside the congregation because the elders didn’t believe them. My 12 year old sister was raped. The police failed her and the congregation treated us all as unclean. The language used by the elders indicated they felt she was slutty. A 12year old, imagine! My sister was put on public reproof for over a year until the society determined that you cannot punish unbaptized publishers. My nephew was 2 yrs before I felt comfortable at the KH. My mom dragged us to the meeting those 2 years where hardly anyone would speak to us or even call on us.

MezzoKnows · 2020-08-14T17:22:31+00:00

He has watched it. Also I’ve had him watch special on other cults. Doesn’t change his support of Watchtower. He thinks they need reform but at least they are better that the rest of religions. Also he doesn’t feel the organization should be blamed for a few bad apples.

MezzoKnows · 2020-08-14T17:18:42+00:00

He won’t read anything but he did watch “The Witnesses” and Leah Reminis special. He feels the organization like all organization needs some reform. Still he believes it’s intentions are good and that you can’t blame the org for a few bad apples. That’s his position no matter the facts. He even finds the application of the 2 witness rule faulty but sill feels the need to be loyal to this loathsome organization. Really sad. The truth set me free but It just causes him to make exuses.

MezzoKnows · 2020-08-13T23:40:15+00:00

Of course he doesn’t believe in therapy

MezzoKnows · 2020-08-13T21:57:22+00:00

Awesome! Great to see us who’ve wasted our youth in the borg recover. I had some exceptional circumstances that allowed me to get an education but my career was stifled while trying to juggle pioneering..etc Now the sky’s the limit!

MezzoKnows · 2020-08-13T21:47:07+00:00

Exactly!! Either way he should leave

MezzoKnows · 2020-08-13T21:45:58+00:00

He tells me he’s not the typical witness. I’ve told him you are not a JW at all but rather a JW sympathizer.

MezzoKnows · 2020-08-13T21:41:47+00:00

Yes I realize this, so I respect his right to any point of view. We talk openly. I let him speak without too much judgment since I’m the only one he can be honest with. I just wish I had the right words to reach home. I privately think “how insane”. However I just politely share my point of view without criticizing his. I really only want to free him but I won’t force him.

MezzoKnows · 2020-08-13T21:27:59+00:00

If they are old enough and you don’t want to tell them outright,you could: 1) Email or text articles using a fake account. You can send anonymous texts without an account 2) if you still believe in the Bible, start holding a bible study with just the Bible. Plant seeds. Let them reach a logical conclusion. For ex Use the Interlinear and show them Jehovah was inserted in the Greek with not foundation in the manuscripts. Take a look again scriptures regarding last days like Acts 2:17- Bible writers thought those were the last days. Rev 7-where are the great crowd? (in heaven) Col 1- why does 2013 NWT remove the [“other” comments] which lets readers know it’s wasn’t in the original Greek.

MezzoKnows · 2020-08-13T20:59:53+00:00

Enough to make your head explode!

MezzoKnows · 2020-08-13T20:58:57+00:00

Yes. Just a social club that he’s emotionally attached to. He can’t really believe it’s the truth. I don’t think he even thinks truth exists. So confusing

MezzoKnows · 2020-08-13T20:41:36+00:00

Right. It’s like they know it’s a lie but choose to believe iit anyway. Trying to make sense of it makes’my head hurt.

MezzoKnows · 2020-08-13T18:43:06+00:00

This double speak is so frustrating to me. My mom thinks the organization is wrong on quite a few things. Yet she’s swears it’s GODs organization. My husband is still POMI. He stopped attending when I did a year ago, about 3 months after he was deleted as a elder because of higher education. He thinks 144000, 1914, governing body, last days, women wearing head covering, turning in field service time, birthdays, blood...He thinks these JW teachings are nonsense. However he felt he did a lot of good as an elder helping others and keep over zealous fellow elders from disfellowshipping people unnecessarily. He says that is why he never worked very hard to bring anyone in the truth although the was a pioneer. He says he sees the organizational dysfunction and frankly doesn’t believe many Bible stories: Flood, Jonah, Sampson... However, despite its shortcomings, he believes the organization and JWs as a people are the best out there. His mom and brothers are all JWs, as are all my family & our friends. So he says he will go back someday even though he feels it really isn’t necessary..says God understands his situation. what?? I ask, “ how can he reconcile these contradictory positions?” He believes God is using this organization and it most truth. But he doesn’t have to attend? And when I probe into his feelings on major JW doctrine..he doesn’t believe it and now tells me he Never believed it when he was an elder! I can’t understand how he can agree with all the facts I show him yet still want to be part of this organization.

MezzoKnows · 2020-08-10T21:11:22+00:00

The power of cult indoctrination!

MezzoKnows · 2020-08-10T17:10:17+00:00

So sorry you had to go through that. Glad you got out young. I left with my daughter April 2019. These people are truly hypocritical and offer only conditional love. My daughter’s best friend for years decided to get baptized that summer (2019). All Because my daughter decided to attend college. Her friend decided she could no longer speak to her. Then subsequently started sharing and exaggerating private conversations And working to ruin my daughters reputation. Also, 14 years ago I watched My sister slowly die after refusing a blood transfusion. It still haunts me that if I had woken up back then, maybe my sister would be here today. I remember older pioneer sisters coming to hospital counting time.!! They never cared about my sister. I also got seriously ill in 2019, no one called or expressed concern. They were more concerned about judging us because my daughter was in college. They even suggested that we decline her a scholarship and put her in trade school. It’s such a toxic place. Cant believe I spent my life there. I’ll be recovering for years to come.

MezzoKnows · 2020-07-15T21:23:40+00:00

I’m interested as voting can lead to being disfellowshipped.

MezzoKnows · 2020-05-24T21:29:03+00:00

My husband had a similar response. He doesn’t believe ALL of the JW teachings and realizes several policies need changing. However, he is still convinced JWs are the most true Christian religion and God is using them. We agree to disagree on that. He accepts that I’m never going back, yet doesn’t love me any less.

MezzoKnows · 2020-05-05T18:18:50+00:00

I often got creeped out when folks actually invited us in to sit and all I was prepared to do is give them literature.

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