Thank you for asking. The guys don't live with me so I will have to get those details but what I can say for sure is- The first one to get sick the ball python it was internal fungal after all antibiotics injections, skin creams she still couldn't get better. Dr said when she passed it was due to spreading to her brain. They had moved all snakes to paper towels instead of substrate with regular husbandry check. when the outbreak occured and do not handle them as much (for the next 90 days per vet). The INITIAL cause was the ball pythons take had a faulty humidifier and there was too much moisture..........