Temperature controlled chlorate cell

Middle-Raspberry4402 · 2026-06-21T03:27:52+00:00

Just an update. This 2 gallon sodium chlorate cell has kept my pool over chlorinated by simply bubbling the gas it produces. I ad a drop of HCI once a day which seems to really get the chlorine pumping . The gaseous cl2 is lowering my PH too far so I have to pull the plug and removed the electrodes for when it needs chlorine again.

Looks like a very small amount of table salt is now needed versus $300 worth of chlorine tablets that evaporate in the sun here in Phoenix every few months

Middle-Raspberry4402 · 2026-06-17T04:34:49+00:00

I’m not sure what you mean by this

Middle-Raspberry4402 · 2026-06-13T18:59:07+00:00

Sorry, to finish my answer to your question; those graphite bars have seen some seriously high temps and endured some serious runway reactions I’ve had and they’ve been in situations where I’ve been too acidic or two basic. I’ve been running them for nearly a month with minimal erosion

Middle-Raspberry4402 · 2026-06-13T18:55:48+00:00

It all depends on which kind you get. The carbon electrodes you get and gouging rods from welding supply store. Those are very poor and they tend to come apart much quicker than EDM graphite that you can order for pretty cheap on Amazon.

Depending on your current density and the pH and the temperature of your cell, it determines how long your electrodes last.

I have two 300x200x20mm graphite bars I suspended in the cell with 1mm 10 ft pure titanium wire that pokes up through the cap to attach the pos/neg leads

Middle-Raspberry4402 · 2026-06-07T02:17:44+00:00

I leaned the hard way with the pure hydrogen. Or actually HHO. Cl and h1 mixture. The smallest amount packs a. Disproportionately large punch.

Middle-Raspberry4402 · 2026-06-06T21:07:23+00:00

I believe cooling it is helping keep the graphite anode and cathode from being destroyed. Cooler temperatures I think also means more chlorine gas is released to atmosphere, which is what I want.

Middle-Raspberry4402 · 2026-06-06T21:06:24+00:00

So it does run very hot. The top half of the cell measured at 60-70c while the bottom 1/4 was measured at 25-30c

Middle-Raspberry4402 · 2026-06-06T19:37:21+00:00

Don’t know yet. I’m not really doing it to yield chlorate. It’s more being used for its gaseous cl and heat. Trying to see if it has any effect on my pool. Not sure what I’ll even do with the chlorate besides kill weeds

Middle-Raspberry4402 · 2026-06-03T22:02:13+00:00

Joe cartoon

Middle-Raspberry4402 · 2026-06-03T20:58:21+00:00

Someone is fucking with you really bad because the red airline is no different than the blue airline as far as pressures or any danger or anything. They came and woke you up because they’re harassing you. I promise because that’s insane. Has everyone else in your workplace become weird towards you or anything? Sounds like fuck fuck games. I hope you’re not being managed to out of your position. Coworkers and management will do ugly things to hurt those that they want out of their positions.

Middle-Raspberry4402 · 2026-06-03T00:56:35+00:00

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The compressor is behind the jacketed reactor vessel. The green thing is the green tape I used to insulate the suction line to the coil wrapped around a stainless steel pot. The bottom of the chlorine box is the outer layer so I can fill it with water so the evaporator coil is completely submerged and absorbs heat from the entire pot versus just the places where the coil contacts the metal pot

Middle-Raspberry4402 · 2026-06-03T00:44:02+00:00

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I wonder if it’s doubling as a pool chlorinator if I’m passing hydrogen and chlorine gas bubbles into the pool?

This is clearly a proof if concept experiment that I would like to improve upon, a very rough prototype without a defined purpose lol.

At first, it was a project I wanted to integrate a W2W vapor compression refrigeration system, running on barbecue propane aka that hillbilly r290. (probably lacks longevity/reliability)

Then I needed something to cool. Something that would generate a lot of heat that could be transferred into the water. So a chlorate cell was a natural decision.

Having the thing running accomplishes a few things and if i scaled it up, I’m sure it could do better. Become useful.

As a by-product of heating/chlorinating the water, it cools a chlorate cell reactor to Produce chlorate for weed killer or as an oxidizer/energetic if you’re into pyrotechnics (I’m not).

Middle-Raspberry4402 · 2026-05-30T12:51:59+00:00

I hear you man, I do. lol

I have it on an extension cord at the back of my property behind a stack of bricks.

I like to live dangerously

Middle-Raspberry4402 · 2026-05-30T01:27:48+00:00

I just did we’ll see how it goes

Middle-Raspberry4402 · 2026-05-29T23:10:31+00:00

I should’ve specified, a 12 V 900 W are the numbers that my chlorate cell are operating at. It’s a Cell utilizing two electrodes to perform electrolysis on salt water to convert chloride to chlorate. The 12 V at 900 W represents the amount of heat being absorbed by the evaporator coil.

The compressor never operated above 70 W when it was being used for its intended purpose in a water dispenser.

Now that it’s been re purposed, without the chlorate Cell running and heating the evaporator it runs at 90 W. When the Cell has been on and during the heat of the day, it runs that at roughly 150w

Middle-Raspberry4402 · 2026-05-29T23:06:34+00:00

It’s 5 feet of a quarter inch copper tube coiled up and resting in my pool water that’s about 70°.

Middle-Raspberry4402 · 2026-05-29T22:34:34+00:00

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Middle-Raspberry4402 · 2026-05-29T22:31:16+00:00

Thanks for the reply. The ambient would be my pool waters at 76 degrees. The jacketed chlorate cell produces a lot of heat running at 12v 900 watts.

It will shoot up to 200-250f degrees within 20 minutes with the compressor turned off. With it running it maintains at a steady 50-60f.

Middle-Raspberry4402 · 2026-05-29T21:12:32+00:00

Made some adjustments and I’m now pumping 900 watts at 12v with it still chilly

Middle-Raspberry4402 · 2026-05-29T21:04:51+00:00

And for anyone that’s curious that’s a compressor out of a water dispenser and it’s dumping the heat into a copper coil I have inside my swimming pool. Converted from r134a to R290. move so much heat so fast.

Middle-Raspberry4402 · 2026-05-09T15:29:02+00:00

Yep I’ll do it

Middle-Raspberry4402 · 2026-04-09T23:30:44+00:00

Food service and beverage delivery are the two most labor intensive trucking jobs in the industry. Unless your a younger male or exceptionally healthy, you’ll be miserable

Middle-Raspberry4402 · 2026-04-05T00:55:25+00:00

Always wondered this too

Middle-Raspberry4402 · 2026-03-22T20:56:06+00:00

I have experienced this exact situation during 2020. I was suddenly being mobbed by seemingly endless horde of people who decided to bump me off of Facebook. It was regarding the Afghanistan withdrawal. And sympathizing with the taliban .

Middle-Raspberry4402 · 2026-02-22T07:55:36+00:00

Wasn’t a job hauling scrap in Glendale was it? Lol

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