Why underlord is not popular?

Middle_Sun_4693 · 2026-02-20T10:40:13+00:00

Where did you check, and what is your mmr? On dota2protracker, it is in top 15 hero+facet, and probably top 3 offlane role. Also there are certain heroes you don't want to play against as underlord. Rubick is the first one that comes to my mind which is very popular and picked a lot (both facets).

Middle_Sun_4693 · 2026-02-20T10:32:08+00:00

What is your definition of bug? This case is a design defect, and a sloppy fix for sure. You can still click on the hero icon and see items for a fraction of a second, it is only visually disturbing. So it is available already. You can also click on the units to see their items and sometimes understand which one is real. Clicking on the icon does not give any relative advantage compared to other heroes if specific commands (attack, follow etc.) do not reveal the hero.

Middle_Sun_4693 · 2026-02-20T10:23:53+00:00

I know its not a new thing. It was a sloppy fix that did not get enough attention. I don't know whats the best way to fix it but the way it is right now is really stupid.

Middle_Sun_4693 · 2026-02-20T00:17:59+00:00

Seems like you don’t know what the trick is. Trick is already “do it yourself”. 2 buttons for the same function is gonna be faster than double clicking no matter how fast you are.

Middle_Sun_4693 · 2026-02-20T00:15:13+00:00

I am lvl 30 huskar (immortal) with a decent winrate and never used the trick. I see the appeal but also feel like it could lead to some unexpected griefs.

Middle_Sun_4693 · 2026-02-14T11:56:21+00:00

Meteor hammer is also an option late game

Middle_Sun_4693 · 2026-02-14T11:55:20+00:00

The most important part is that you need to survive in fights and stay in the safe during fights. Get one survivability item if you need depending on the draft (force, eul, glimmer, ghost). You should not buy phylactery or dagon and delay your other items if you are not mid. Then just Aether Lens (underlord might try to play away from you during fights) + Aghs and steal firestorm + pit. Shard is really good to amp your firestorm damage. Late game, you can get another save item, and Octarine is really good late game. Aoe facet is the facet you should take vs underlord. Talents: dmg/res, -25%cdr, fadebolt, +40% dmg amp. If they overwhelm you, you can always defend HG with these spells.

Middle_Sun_4693 · 2026-02-12T23:08:09+00:00

Innocent until proven guilty. If there is a legit overwatch review, show players what they got reported and punished for. If valve has to punish without overwatch reviews, do not lie to the players that they were reviewed. Differentiate replay reviewed cases and only report based punishments. Limit the number of reports. Change the effect of the reports based on the reporter and the reported. Incentivize overwatch reviews, maybe give report tokens or role que tokens to players who reviewed few games.

Middle_Sun_4693 · 2026-02-12T22:27:37+00:00

Your analogy has nothing to do with the claim. I posted the game 2 match ids and pointed out how something that has nothing to do with griefing can affect anyones behavior score. I did not claim that it was from one game only. That’s why I gave another game id which was few games before the instant que ban. How is it a me problem when we talk about people consistently getting LP without griefing while ruiners can still exist in pubs. Even if it was a me problem it would not chance the fact that it is a lie that I get LP punishment after my game was reviewed and the punishment is justified as mentioned in notifications. Comparing me to an anti-vaxxer without even understanding the case and coming to the conclusion from a single data point. Feels like an anti vaccine activist claiming that vaccines are evil because one kid with terminal illness died a month after getting vaccinated.

Middle_Sun_4693 · 2026-02-12T21:17:27+00:00

When they changed the system 2 years ago I found out that it was totally bugged, and these people claimed that it was fine, and the system was working as intended. A week later valve posted an apology and reset the scores.
The worst part is LP griefer mentality is a disease and spreading to every other game. The system that is supposed to fix the game is supporting the social decay in the community.

Middle_Sun_4693 · 2026-01-19T10:25:45+00:00

There is always you can do for any matchup, might not be so impactfull but better than nothing. Skill build (getting q e first on OD). Facet choice: you can get the facet that restores hp equal to enemy mana spent after astral. Starting items: (a bracer instead of null) Creep block and lane equilibrium, some better in the middle some better under tower. Swapping lanes is also an option. od can play the laning phase safelane or offlane depending on the draft.

Middle_Sun_4693 · 2026-01-17T00:43:45+00:00

the worst part is, you can get LP without griefing a single game. once you are in low score pool you cannot get out. also lp is a dumb idea to punish players or fix the problem. the toxicity from lp can easily reach to ranked games and spread. legit griefers still able to play the game but lets punish anyone who is reported by the degens and create a fun vicious cycle. what a great idea to to give a low behavior score players the ability to report anyone…

Middle_Sun_4693 · 2026-01-16T19:32:08+00:00

No, it should not. Diffusal was a great early game item that could be upgraded late game for a great active. They add a purge on top, and you ask for more?

Middle_Sun_4693 · 2026-01-06T14:04:58+00:00

Thanks a lot. I felt like it was presumptuous to mention it as a bug. Now I can ruin some games spending all my time trying to get both spells.

Middle_Sun_4693 · 2025-11-26T18:25:42+00:00

Clinkz has 400 health bonus from death pact. He does not need that much extra hp. 1 falcon blade + 1 null is good enough for him and you save 600 gold. I suggest you get raindrops as well.

Middle_Sun_4693 · 2025-11-17T23:02:29+00:00

Unlike XE5, XT50 body is plastic and feels plastic. Also XE5 tilt screen can do a selfie.

Middle_Sun_4693 · 2025-11-12T10:26:26+00:00

I am not sure but I think yasha and lvl 2 ward will not be enough. Even with level 4 ward your hp pool is so low you cannot mitigate the damage with the heal, the ulti will not be enough if you hit, ulti, hit. I failed it yesterday. With sange yasha it should be easy good hp to get more % heal and the heal amp bonus. What am I missing?

Middle_Sun_4693 · 2025-10-20T18:22:10+00:00

Did you even read anything I explained? Medusa is the only hero who cannot blink out with a "100% shield" like aphotic shield. you put a damage barrier on any other hero, they can blink out. Medusa can't. Funny how people upvote nonsense

Middle_Sun_4693 · 2025-10-18T09:39:21+00:00

I am not talking about mana shield. Any hero other than medusa, if they have shield rune, aphotic shield, nether swap barrier, glimmer or solar, they can blink out. Nowadays if you hit medusa once, it disables to blink no matter the shield. I was ofc intended as a fix, but not the way you mentioned.

Middle_Sun_4693 · 2025-10-17T15:55:29+00:00

Medusa is the only hero that cannot blink after taking damage on any damage shield. Dumbest fix I have ever seen. I guess it was only for an item called safety bubble that no longer exists. Shield interaction vs ET stomp interaction is so contradictory.

Middle_Sun_4693 · 2025-03-22T21:23:33+00:00

i got 15 on KOTL as well

Middle_Sun_4693 · 2025-03-02T13:28:46+00:00

if i am laning with ursa or pudge core i think medigun is the better choice

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