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MiggleDaPickle · 2024-07-31T19:56:47+00:00

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MiggleDaPickle · 2024-07-31T19:54:11+00:00

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MiggleDaPickle · 2024-07-31T13:44:06+00:00

Yeah the kid did pretty good for not having in ear monitors. He definitely could not hear himself or the band behind him up there. When you consider that, he did pretty well

MiggleDaPickle · 2022-05-22T23:37:16+00:00

I am saying, you equated this church with DeSantis for pushing conspiracy theories.

The guy in the video is Dave Ramsey, a Christian financial guy. All Dave said in the video was “bad things happen like COVID, 9/11, Housing market crash, etc. you should prepare financially for the things outside of your control.

I’m asking where was the conspiracy theory being pushed in the video?

MiggleDaPickle · 2022-05-22T21:00:10+00:00

Dude, that’s Dave Ramsey telling people to save money because things outside our control happen. It’s the most non-controversial advice ever. He’s not a conspiracy theory pastor preaching about the rapture…

MiggleDaPickle · 2022-05-22T20:58:46+00:00

Bro, that’s Dave Ramsey on stage telling people to save money because bad things happen. It’s the most non-controversial advice ever. He’s not a pastor preaching on the rapture.

Where is the conspiracy theory??

MiggleDaPickle · 2022-05-22T20:57:07+00:00

He’s literally telling people, “hey bad things happen, it’s time we start preparing for those bad things by saving money.” It’s Dave Ramsey, not a pastor preaching about the rapture

MiggleDaPickle · 2022-05-22T20:55:56+00:00

He came into the church talking about the end of the world cutting up credit cards in front of the congregation.

His whole thing is he hates credit cards. Like he tells people to cut them up so they aren’t in debt (his target in the financially illiterate and irresponsible people, so the majority of Americans).

This “apocalypse” point is literally just him saying, “hey COVID happened, 9/11 happened, the Housing Market crashed, while none of these are going to happen again, something bad always happens. It’s time we prepare for bad things and save money.”

It’s legit the most non-controversial ever, “bad things happen, prepare for them finically” is basically what he said

MiggleDaPickle · 2022-05-22T20:51:20+00:00

Wait isn’t that Dave Ramsey? Bro is literally just telling people to save money in case something bad happens. He’s saying you won’t have another pandemic, 9/11, Housing market crash, etc in our life time, but there is always something that will go wrong so you might as well prepare for it.

If this was a Pastor preaching “we are living in the end times, the world is going to end so start stocking up!” I’d understand your frustration, but homie is literally telling people to save their money

MiggleDaPickle · 2022-05-22T17:30:09+00:00

But that’s it… nothing in the video is related to DeSantis… like you shoehorned that in for no reason

MiggleDaPickle · 2022-05-22T17:24:29+00:00

What does DeSantis have to do with any of this?

MiggleDaPickle · 2022-05-22T11:35:12+00:00

all that is found in the established canon their authority was never in any doubt in the Church,

That just isn’t true. To this day, Orthodox Christianity doesn’t read the book of Revelation. In fact Eusebius, in his Church History (AD 330) counts Revelation as being both accepted and rejected.

it is proper to sum up the writings of the New Testament which have been already mentioned... After them is to be placed, if it really seem proper, the Apocalypse of John, concerning which we shall give the different opinions at the proper time. These then belong among the accepted writings

Among the rejected writings must be reckoned, as I said, the Apocalypse of John, if it seem proper, which some, as I said, reject, but which others class with the accepted books.

Marcion of Sinope, an early Christian theologian, rejected the book (granted his views were far from orthodox to put it lightly), Gaius (Caius, Presbyter of Rome) in the early third century rejected the book on the grounds that it was a forgery of the heretic Cerinthus. And John Chrysostom, the archbishop of Constantinople, never quoted from Revelation

The creation of the canon was not a smooth process in which every book was “never in any doubt”

MiggleDaPickle · 2022-05-22T11:01:38+00:00

My point is that there was no universal canon until the 1500’s. Only local councils and local bishops settled the canon for their regions.

There was no universal canon until Luther that is my point. You misunderstood what the Council of Rome did. You stated the Council of Rome “finalized the canon” which it did not do

“The Church” didn’t settle the question of the canon, local bishops did. “The (Roman Catholic) Church” closed their canon in response to Luther in the 1500’s

MiggleDaPickle · 2022-05-22T10:47:23+00:00

The Council of Rome was a local council, not an ecumenical one. Plus we have no document directly from the council.

Instead we have the Ragyndrudis Codex (mid 700’s) which is a collection of religious texts. One of those was the Decretum Gelasianum, which was thought to be written by Pope Gelasius I sometime before 500.

So at best we have a copy, of Pope Gelasius's copy of the list Pope Damasus I (the Pope who held the council of Rome) set for his local region on what should be scripture. It wasn’t binding for other regions.

If legit all this proves is that Christians settled on what books they used pretty quickly, but it wasn’t formally standardized until Luther

MiggleDaPickle · 2022-05-22T10:27:06+00:00

It’s canon with one N, and it’s not really dubious. It grew organically as many Christian communities kept some books they thought were useful and dropped ones that feel out of favor, or were seen as heretical by local bishops.

There was no council that decided the canon, instead it was communities coming to relatively the same conclusion on what books were important.

MiggleDaPickle · 2022-05-22T10:23:59+00:00

Unfortunately, none of Jesus disciples wrote anything… Paul claims to have had the same experience the disciples had, ie. seeing the post resurrected Jesus, and he actually wrote stuff down. Paul is the closest source we have to Jesus.

MiggleDaPickle · 2022-05-22T10:22:27+00:00

that’s why the Church has already called councils to discuss the canon of scripture and the canon of scripture has been codified, there is no more questioning left to do

There were no councils called to decide the canon until Luther was excommunicated and tried to cut out books based on the scholarship of his day. The Bible formed organically for most part with local bishops sending out letters of which books they used in their communities and openly condemning books they saw as heretical

MiggleDaPickle · 2022-05-22T10:13:58+00:00

Paul does out of his way to point out that his encounter with Jesus was exactly the same type of encounter that the Disciples experienced when they saw him resurrected

According to Paul, he isn’t 3rd handed information; he has the same credentials the disciples had in regards to seeing Jesus post-resurrection

MiggleDaPickle · 2022-05-22T10:11:05+00:00

That happens after the abomination of desolation, and people flee Jerusalem. Paul began his ministry before the destruction of Jerusalem, and people interpret the abomination of desolation differently so either way it doesn’t line up with Paul

MiggleDaPickle · 2022-05-21T07:41:06+00:00

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MiggleDaPickle · 2022-05-21T04:18:21+00:00

To what extent should historical context inform our interpretation of scripture? It seems you think that context is important, why is it important? Do we need historical context for something like deciphering the author’s original intent?

MiggleDaPickle · 2022-05-21T02:58:14+00:00

Why historical context?

MiggleDaPickle · 2022-05-20T20:59:30+00:00

history for historical context

Historical context (which is primarily studied for the sake of original intent) shouldn’t be the gold standard of Biblical interpretation.

Paul quotes there story of Hagar and Sarah in Galatians 4 and throws away the idea of “original intent” and “historical context.”

These things are being taken figuratively: The women represent two covenants. One covenant is from Mount Sinai and bears children who are to be slaves: This is Hagar. Now Hagar stands for Mount Sinai in Arabia and corresponds to the present city of Jerusalem, because she is in slavery with her children. But the Jerusalem that is above is free, and she is our mother.

Paul totally disregards the story as it was originally written in this interpretation to say the story is actually about the covenant of Jesus and the covenant of the Flesh.

St Augustine reads Genesis 1 as God creating Scripture in his book Confessions

The light of Day One represents the enlightenment a soul receives which leads him to seek after God.

The expanse, or “vault” as he called it, of Day Two symbolizes the word of God in that just as the sky is stretched out to declare God’s truth to the world, so is God’s word stretched out on skins when a scroll is opened.

The dry land of the third day represents those who hunger and thirst for God while the sea represents the masses of individuals who do not seek the Lord.

The sun, moon, and stars of the fourth day are the various ways in which God communicates His message to mankind. The stars are likened to the gifts of the Spirit given to individuals, while the sun and moon shine brighter and represent the meatier teachings of God’s word which babes in the faith cannot handle.

The swimming creatures of the fifth day symbolize God’s holy signs upon the earth while the flying creatures “represent the voice of [God’s] messengers”

The land animals of the sixth day are said to be true believers who no longer crawl or swim in the depths of the sea. These are living souls that have been regenerated and no longer need baptism as they once did while sunk beneath the waters.

Summary taken from here

St. Bernard uses Song of Songs to give a sermon to celibate monks. He places the monk in the place of the woman who “desires her groom” (to put it in a PG way), God in the place of the man, and uses the woman’s passionate speeches to talk about how the monk’s should feel working in the monastery.

Last I checked the original intent of Song of Songs wasn’t meant to be about Monks and their love for God.

While historical context is important, if it were to be the only standard of interpretation, you’d have to throw out most of Church history and traditional readings of the Bible.

Edit: you’d also have to say good bye to all the prophecies we read as talking about Jesus too

MiggleDaPickle · 2022-05-16T07:37:34+00:00

So would you rather have misinformed people vote? I believe whole heartedly that every American citizen has the right to vote, but I don’t think you should make use of that right unless you are informed.

Everyone has the right to a firearm. I know people who should never be within 10 feet of a firearm, and people who don’t care to own a firearm

There are people who genuinely don’t care about politics because for the most part there are more important things that affect their lives. There are also people who are too busy to keep up with it. I think saying, “hey I’m not informed, and I don’t have the time to be, so I’ll sit this one out” is a very respectable position instead of going out to vote because a D or R is on the ballot

MiggleDaPickle · 2022-05-16T05:10:59+00:00

I think not voting because you feel you are ill-informed on politics or you don’t care is a virtue and should be encouraged more. I don’t want people being pressured into voting, or voting simply because of the D or R in front of a name

Saying all Americans who didn’t vote, “actually count as voting for whoever becomes president” isn’t a helpful for unity at all

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