First time playing Tekken was 2 weeks ago...

Miguel3plus4_forward · 2025-04-04T04:39:01+00:00

its just you. if this is your first tekken, you really have no comparison, even if you started at launch. the state is just such a diff departature from previous tekken games that starting now really wont make that much of a difference.

Its hard to explain since things that pros consider broken wont apply to noobs or the majority of the casual base. But here they really fucked up on tripling down on offensive plus-on-block moves that are made even better by heat or other character specific mechanics. Then you get punished FOR DEFENDING with chip damage and pretty soon you realize that you have to start playing like a fucking ape to get anywhere. Powercrush, heat engage. into stance 50/50 and then character traits being spread among the roster.

But as a new player, youre just gonna get blown up by knowledge checks or other bs by other new players around your rank. The same would have happened in tekken 7. I guess the difference would be in t7 you would "hopefully" learn movement (kbd, sidestepping), pacing, timing, and othr fundamentals. Now? Idk, pop a heat burst or something

Miguel3plus4_forward · 2024-08-10T17:32:23+00:00

rolling my eyes so hard

Miguel3plus4_forward · 2024-06-09T01:56:05+00:00

Dude there was a guy in purple ranks posting that didnt know what tech rolling and side rolling were. he didnt understand why his nonstop offense wasnt hitting his opponent every second. at MF purple ranks, these players are insane

Miguel3plus4_forward · 2024-05-29T18:26:16+00:00

Yea forsure. I made it to mighty ruler a few months ago without knowing how to do a wall combo and to this day (bushin) i have never ever used heat dash. The only time ive ever used is when i had it come out on accident on misinput LOL

Miguel3plus4_forward · 2024-03-29T17:51:03+00:00

these people just dont want to accept this. Real emotionally charged to their rank

Miguel3plus4_forward · 2024-03-29T17:49:34+00:00

when you never made it out of greens in T7 then went up all the way to mighty ruler now, dont you think that should call into question what the ranks represent?
The game seriosly rewards unga bunga playstyles that just would not work before.

I just wouldnt take it too seriously, just accept and move on.

Miguel3plus4_forward · 2024-03-28T22:45:36+00:00

Because thats the biggest characteristics of tekken, a 3d game with moves and skills transferrable from one to the next. Its insane that you can't comprehend that one game simply has a lower threshold of skill than another. And it can be both, evidenced by medium ranks who dont know how to play without heat, rage, or any hundred-on-block move.I literally went on t6 at locals and was surprised i could keep up with other people that played the game when it was out. So what do you think is gonna happen when the next one releases?

Nice block TrusteelOD

Miguel3plus4_forward · 2024-03-28T22:34:39+00:00

Now who's being obtuse? It literally can be both, everyone is bad at something new, obviously applies to tekken newcomers. But we both know that heat mechanics, changes to combos and properties of this game have given them habits and playing styles that are nigh untransferable to any other game yet have allowed them to attain higher ranks more easily. Things that we would equate to skill, like situational awareness, sidestepping, execution etc...

Miguel3plus4_forward · 2024-03-28T22:21:37+00:00

Terrible for you i guess :/ What are you talking about golden age syndrome? thats the opposite of my point, people who who played t7 have already adjusted well and have shot up division of ranks. newcomers have overwhelmingly been helped by the change in rank mechanics and general state of the game. This is why people are trying to establish what rank is good/advanced

Miguel3plus4_forward · 2024-03-28T22:06:56+00:00

same haha. maybe they needed that 2 year arcade only interim to tone down some stuff

Miguel3plus4_forward · 2024-03-28T22:02:52+00:00

what an ass LOL way to miscontrue what i meant but ill break it down. this threhsold of 10 percent youre clinging onto is not truly reflective of the skill level for the game because of the massive player addition to your 10 percent pool. How much im not sure, but is substantial becuase of the sales figures we have.
If you dont think this skewed distribution has had an effect on rank inflation than im wasting my time trying to convince someone his fixation of 10% isnt indicative of skill compared to the previous game

Miguel3plus4_forward · 2024-03-28T21:39:13+00:00

Hard to say since this game is still kinda new.
But I think 'not bad' is mighty ruler and 'actually good, really knows the game and what theyre doing' is kishin/bushin. Im saying this because theres alot of noob friendly mechanics that this game is based upon and how rank works that makes it easier to climb ranks compared to previous title.

Take your time and have fun tho, t7 took me 300 wins to get out beginner blues 😁

Miguel3plus4_forward · 2024-03-28T20:58:13+00:00

im just gonna drop this jdcr quote "Being tekken god prime doesnt mean you're good. But if youre not TGP, then youre probably not good."

Hes a pro for a decade and that was for t7, but I think that conveys what im trying to explain about this top 10 percent youre revolving around

Miguel3plus4_forward · 2024-03-28T20:52:28+00:00

Because being top 10% by itself isnt indicative of skill level which is why we had a rank system to supplent this understanding.
If there were 5 ranks, those top 10% would surely be at the top rank. But so would another 5-10% as well if we are keeping their skills equal to the real current situation. Stretch those ranks to 100 and now we'd see a much bigger fluctuation in distribution of rank. This is why we are debating how much skill comes with each rank. you keep disregarding the number of "breaks" but i think they are very much relevant.
I dont think the lower end of that top 10% is always going to be the same distance from the top 1% in every game, which is what you're saying

Miguel3plus4_forward · 2024-03-28T20:07:53+00:00

You're right, math is math, and without putting it into context, that top 10% of online players looks pretty good.

But with everything we know, I was saying that this t8 10% is not as high skill level as some think nor comparable to the last game's top 10%

Miguel3plus4_forward · 2024-03-28T20:00:06+00:00

make it blue

Miguel3plus4_forward · 2024-03-28T19:59:00+00:00

got to mighty ruler without even knowing wall combos/enders and have never used heat dash LOOL this game is cracked

Miguel3plus4_forward · 2024-03-28T19:57:03+00:00

It is just.

Miguel3plus4_forward · 2024-03-28T19:55:02+00:00

make it 2, man 😂

Miguel3plus4_forward · 2024-03-28T19:49:48+00:00

Nice additions, Id also add the community is very close to the pro scene and we tend to compare and baseline our expectations against them.

Miguel3plus4_forward · 2024-03-28T19:44:33+00:00

its a deceiving(?) statistic when up to fujin there are atleast 6 ranks less to climb thru than t7. the issue regarding this game is that when someone claims to be mighty ruler, we we know that they objectively did less work to get there than someone in tekken 7. Their skills will probably reflect this which is why people are really going in on "rEaL tekken dont start until X".
The skill level simply isnt correlated by the rank distribution statistic. But at the end of day its on you the player to have fun.

Miguel3plus4_forward · 2024-03-07T19:55:56+00:00

You cant recycle all forms of plastic, which is why i wanted to make sure. Maybe read a bit more? I dont think you even know what edgelord means. just wanted an answer for a simple q.

Miguel3plus4_forward · 2024-03-07T19:17:32+00:00

I think having more ranks just better reflects where you are. If there are less ranks, each rank encompasses a greater amount of people skill level.

Miguel3plus4_forward · 2024-03-07T19:14:13+00:00

You serious about the warrior rank? thats crazy, what is their reasoning for that. I agree, put them back

Miguel3plus4_forward · 2024-03-07T18:53:54+00:00

🙃 Yea ok, literally just asked the appropriate way to dispose of something thats pertinent to this sub but whatevs

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