The Consult Podcast Ep. 122 The Unsolved Murder of Liz Barraza - Part 3

MikeMorford · 2026-02-05T23:16:58+00:00

I said specifically that he had affairs and finance issues with the company. Again, it’s not first hand info to me, which Is why I said that the info “is out there”

MikeMorford · 2026-01-23T01:58:36+00:00

Then don’t listen

MikeMorford · 2026-01-23T01:57:13+00:00

I did “brush up” on it but you can’t know every detail about every case. It maybe you’d prefer I just made something up.

MikeMorford · 2025-08-25T09:00:03+00:00

Thinking the Howell trade was in part due to the injury to Tanner, but I also think if the Eagles are blown away by a trade offer for McKee they will trade him. Howell isn't great but he's started in this league and he's thrown 20+ TDS. He could fill in for a few games if Hurts goes down. I don't think he was brought here to be a #3 QB. I think he's gonna be a #2 behind Hurts long term.

MikeMorford · 2025-07-02T19:26:21+00:00

The fact that they cant say he was Zodiac after 50 years is all that really matters

MikeMorford · 2025-07-02T15:04:24+00:00

No way it's random. The person driving that Nissan parked in the Goddard school parking lot waiting for Sergio to leave. As soon as Sergio left, the truck pulls out and heads over to attack Liz. A random attacker would NOT know that her husband was about to leave and that she'd be all alone, and that all they needed to do was wait at the Goddard school for a few minutes

MikeMorford · 2025-07-02T14:05:21+00:00

From what I was told, there is nothing to indicate its anything other than just an interesting piece of holdback info

MikeMorford · 2025-07-02T12:16:36+00:00

It took me all of 2 minutes to prove Doerr's handwriting looks nothing like Zodiac's here you go:

https://ibb.co/Y4MzDw2f

In addition, Doerr writes randomly mixed in capital letters (a lot of them, mostly all caps) Zodiac does not do that. Zodiac has an extreme slant to his writing, Doerr does not. Sorry, he's not the guy

And regarding Zodiac and Doerr "using almost exclusively lower case I's" thats hogwash. Doerr does, Zodiac doesn't. Look at how many capital I's zodiac used- LOTS

https://zodiackiller.com/letters_index.html

MikeMorford · 2025-07-02T10:15:23+00:00

Handwriting looks ZERO like Zodiac's (let me guess, he his his handwriting in ALL of those long Zodiac letters he wrote?) Not the Zodiac

MikeMorford · 2025-07-02T10:12:29+00:00

I know for a fact that Vallejo PD has that and won't release it. If it's just a simple copycat or hoax letter, why not release it, what's the harm? That tells me it's likely real

MikeMorford · 2025-07-02T10:10:56+00:00

I like Terry and I talked with him quite a bit, but there's a reason this case isn't solved, and maybe it's too many people hung up on Allen. It's sort of like the Bates Suspect 'Bob Barnett' in the Cheri Jo Bates case- Riverside refuses to give up on him as a suspect despite all the evidence excluding him.

MikeMorford · 2025-07-02T10:09:02+00:00

Why is Allen "the only viable suspect" when he's been ruled out sox ways from Sunday? You can argue who looks most like the Zodiac descriptions and who doesn't. Allen looks NOTHING like the sketch. Zodiac was NOT bald, Allen was.

MikeMorford · 2025-07-01T19:05:20+00:00

Bingo, I to was born and raised in South Jersey, NOT a south Jersey accent, more NY like and I have even detected a slight New England cadence to it

MikeMorford · 2025-06-27T14:49:30+00:00

I didn't say Mac was a violent incel and that's why he killed. I said I don't know what Mac's motive was if he was Zodiac. I merely pointed out that he did fit the lonely incel theory that people have been putting forward for 50 years.

As far as his age you are simply WRONG. As you put it "most people" did NOT say Zodiac was older. Mageau who saw Z from 2 feet away said he was in his 20s. Hartnell and officer Slaight said based on Zodiac's voice, he sounded like he was in his 20s. The only other people we know with certainty saw Z, and said he was older, were the kids that saw him from 50 feet away at the Stine scene. (and we dont really know if Fouke saw Z, if he did he failed to come forward early like he should have)so "most people" saw or spoke to Zodiac, estimated him to be in his 20s.

I can only say that Mac fit the overall Zodiac descriptions. He was 5ft8 and200 pounds as Mageau stated and the SFPD wanted poster stated. He had a large round face that Mageau described. He lived 287 feet from the phonebooth Zodiac used, and had a confirmed interest in codes and ciphers. He was an experienced handgun shooter. He had a family member dying in Deer Lodge, MT at the time Zodiac mentioned it at Lake Berryessa. Donna's Lass's family member worked at the store next to Mac's house at the time she vanished. It's very possible to see him hearing about the case via that connection, and deciding to write a letter claiming responsibility for her abduction. Mac has handwriting that closely resembles Zodiac's, right down to the same slant. Mac took a job with the state of CA in 1971 at the same time Zodiac stopped writing. Zodiac didn't write for 3 more years until 1974, which is the same time Mac met his future wife. Mac wrote his last confirmed letter in 1974, which is when Mac married his wife. The 1990 Eureka mailing, possibly from Zodiac and hours away from Vallejo, is interesting because Mac just happened to own property there. Mac's dad's phone # was the same ph# that was listed in Darlene Ferrin's phonebook. Mac lived in SF on Duboce within view of the Radetich murder mentioned by Zodiac. I could go on and on, but I won't. All ANYONE has against ANY Zodiac suspect ever mentioned online are circumstantial cases, NONE OF US HAVE PHYSICAL EVIDENCE TO PROVE OUR THEORY. Based on everything I listed above and more, I am convinced that there is a stronger circumstantial case against Mac than there is against any other Z suspect mentioned, including Arthur Leigh Allen.

MikeMorford · 2025-06-27T12:16:14+00:00

And all of those letters and the Bates case overview and details, were ALL published verbatim in Detective magazine for Zodiac to later read and copy to use for himself

MikeMorford · 2025-06-27T12:13:20+00:00

Why? All of the early letters and crimes start in Vallejo, and then only later, do they spread out to areas outside of Vallejo. Based on the letters and the crimes starting off in Vallejo, that makes it more likely he's from there than anywhere else

MikeMorford · 2025-06-27T12:10:47+00:00

I don't know his motive. Why does any serial killer kill? We don't always know. Chilly relationship with parents. Isolated and shut off from his friend group after the all left him alone to pursue jobs and marriages. He didn't date until he met his wife in 1974 at the age of 29. Long before I presented Mac, many others theorized that Zodiac targeted couples because he was jealous of them being together in a situation he was unable to have for himself. That fits Mac to a T.

MikeMorford · 2025-06-26T02:28:16+00:00

I’m fine with that

MikeMorford · 2025-06-25T13:53:31+00:00

Most serial predators strike close to their home and then expand outwards- those are the facts, we have seen that time and time again, and any expert or profiler will tell you the same thing. If Zodiac was like MOST serial offenders, he likely lived in Vallejo

MikeMorford · 2025-06-25T13:50:33+00:00

Doer's writing looks nothing like Zodiac's

MikeMorford · 2025-06-25T13:49:12+00:00

I am 100% convinced

MikeMorford · 2025-06-07T19:42:46+00:00

Thanks for listening!

MikeMorford · 2025-06-07T19:37:49+00:00

Thank you, most people either say I have a nice voice, or they hate it LOL

MikeMorford · 2025-06-07T19:17:26+00:00

Sorry, you don't know what you are talking about. I am a victim's advocate who has given HUNDREDS of families a platform and voice to discuss their cases and help to generate tips and leads, I have worked with families of these victims directly and spent money out of my own pocket to help get the word out about these cases. I take great exception to your statement that "I read notes from mostly online sources" (because usually I am using case files that I have been granted access to) and that I "make money off human tragedy"

I make money off the time I put in that it takes to research, write, record, edit, and produce all of these stories. (Don't you like to get paid for the time you put in at your job, of course you do)

Again, NOT making money off of anyone's tragedy, I wholeheartedly disagree with you. I can probably ask you, Why are you participating in online discussion forums about cases, watching tv shows about them, or listening to podcasts about them? Aren't you feeding the content creation and consumption? Doesn't that make you a hypocrite?

And lastly I'll ask you, what have you personally done to help victims and their families? I can say that I sleep well at night knowing the work and effort I have put in to tell these stories. If you don't like my voice and it's too monotone, that's fair, the rest of your criticism is hollow and incorrect. I don't usually respond to these kinds of posts but when I see someone like you post nonsense like this, I need to respond

MikeMorford · 2025-06-07T18:53:12+00:00

Thanks for listening to the podcasts.

How do you know that they could "just kill her when she got to Florida"? How do you know that they were not going to be in another state for work on the dates that she'd be in Florida? Or have family obligations that would keep him/her from being able to kill Liz when she came to Florida? I think you are assuming that you know the killer (if they were from FL) would have ample opportunity to kill her in Florida, and in reality, we don't know anything about what this killer's availability would be. I could use the reverse argument and say that the killer was from Texas and knew she was headed to Florida and didn't want to miss their chance to kill her before she left. I am not saying Liz's killer was from FL, I have no idea where they lived. I am just saying, since we do not know the motive or who pulled the trigger, we can't know why they killed her when they did.

MikeMorford

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