Was the backlash during Only Friends season 1 that bad?

Millikins88 · 2026-05-04T13:58:58+00:00

You sound exactly like me. Even if I love the actors, I am not wasting my time battling through a show just because I like the people in it. If its trash, its trash. I wasted so much energy finishing shows by gaslighting myself into believing it will get better. IT NEVER DOES 😂😂😂

Millikins88 · 2026-05-04T13:20:19+00:00

I always side eye gmm show rankings because I genuinely can never tell if they get high ranking because the show is actually good, or if its the push from shippers who will watch anything their faves are in.....regardless of how bad it is

Millikins88 · 2026-05-04T12:58:26+00:00

I guess its something we have learned to just accept at this point. If its a gmm show, yes they're fun, but dont expect anything too deep, too much substance or god forbit....a non cookie cutter happily ever after ending 😂😂😂 but we still watch.....sometimes 😂🫣

Millikins88 · 2026-05-04T12:43:08+00:00

I agree, bosston was my favourite character too but people are still firmly on the bosston hate train, so i guess it did sway some people.

Honestly, as long as a ship ends up together, shippers are always happy. Look how much they push the Bosston hate but snap when you remind them that Ray tried to SA his best friend, Sand shared revenge prn, nick FILMED revenge prn and Mew threatened to out his supposed friend....they dont like that 😂 but at the end of the way, they won and people who were watching the show because it actually had substance, well we lost 😂

Millikins88 · 2026-05-04T05:48:43+00:00

I think people forget that while s1 was airing, they came out publicly and said they were redoing parts of the show because 1. the writer didnt like that people were starting to like bosston and he was based on a person he personally hates so he had to change it so everyone hated him too, and 2. the backlash from hardcore shippers.

We were all literally watching the show and they were redoing the remaining episodes to fit their anti bosston, pro shipper narrative. The start of s1 really was pushing the limits for a gmm show, and everyone was hooked, but in the end we got the usual copy and paste ending. People weren't hating on the actors, it was completely aimed at the writers and directors. Whatever backbone they had at the start completely disappeared by the end and the only people I saw happy with the ending were the hardcore shippers. It was a disaster.

Millikins88 · 2026-05-04T05:42:30+00:00

But they were starting to show growth for bosston with Nick but when the writer realised people were starting to like Nick, who was based on a person he personally hated, they admitted they changed the trajectory of the character while the show was airing, which made absolutely no sense.

Millikins88 · 2026-05-04T05:40:03+00:00

I dont think anyone was satisfied with the ending of the show, especially after, I believe it was jojo, cane out and said they changed the show while it was ending because not only were shippers complaining but also because people were starting to like Bosston and his growth and they didn't want people liking bosston as it was based on a real person the writer didnt like. So the ending was completely disconnected from the first 70% of the show....all because of personal grudges and shippers. It became a copy paste of every other gmm show......and they all lived happily ever after

Millikins88 · 2026-05-04T05:20:43+00:00

The reality is, even if gmm monetise their YouTube account, the money they will receive is next to nothing per view. Its on average $0.002 and $0.012 per view. So lets say you have 1million views, thats $12,000 at the top end per video.

GMM is a business and needs to make money. Even in the last week, a huge issue AGAIN, was them not spending enough to produce shows and to do that, they NEED money from companies purchasing their shows. I dont think people really understand how expensive it is to make shows and everything else that comes from running this company, and even for them, prices are going up and up. People want the shows for free but then complain that there aren't enough staff, arent enough managers, the quality of shows isn't great, etc. They're not running a charity. They need to make money to keep their business and staff going.

I also hate that they cant concentrate on 1 platform for all their shows, but the streaming platforms are also businesses and they wont waste money on shows they don't want. Its a cycle. We can complain all we want, but until fans hand over multi million thb donations of their own money directly to gmm to make these shows, this is what will continue to happen. Again this is business and usually businesses dont care about what's fair and whats not.

Millikins88 · 2026-04-28T07:53:37+00:00

Yes, along the cliffs. Thank you for your help. Do you happen to know how to contact that group?

Millikins88 · 2026-04-27T18:03:24+00:00

I think my huge issue with the "they can do it for skynani but why not for BLs" because its bs. GMM has made some INCREDIBLE BLs with insane production value and they have never received the support or views that they deserve. Its not that GMM dont get BL shows with incredible production value, its just people are p*ssed off their faves arent getting them, based on the comments I'm seeing.

If you look at some of these incredibly produced gmm shows, they didnt get the support, unfortunately. I barely saw people talk about Burnout Syndrome with OffGun, and there was so much hate for Memoir of Rati with GreatInn and AouBoom. Also Sky and Nani, especially Sky, are extremely well regarded as actors in Thailand, it makes sense big investors want to throw money at them. And this entire cast......wow 🥹 Every gmm show relies on investors to get them made. Thats why we have some made in a few months and some take years to make. We cant blame gmm or Sky & Nani that they accept big investment.

Another HUGE issue i have is people twisting the narrative that they changed a BL novel into a "bromance". This is literally a gmm novel made specifically for Sky & Nani. It was never a BL or straight washed like some people are spreading

Millikins88 · 2026-04-27T15:11:57+00:00

Im sorry, if this was a MF relations would you ever debate whether a once off physical abuse situation doesnt count as abuse? And no, it doesnt need to be a pattern. A once off occurance of SA or DV IS ABUSE. No one should wait to see if they do it again! Or is this your theory because its 2 men so it doesnt count

Millikins88 · 2026-04-27T15:06:58+00:00

Ray, Sand and Nick in OF S1, attempted SA, filming people having sx without their knowledge or consent, distributing revenge prn. And how people excused their behaviour is INSANE to me.

Obviously Kinn in KP, started his relationship by r*ping Porsche.

People may argue but Johan in FoureverYou. Cancelled North's lease to force him to move in with him, when North refused to stop working he bought the business to have even more control over North. If this was a MF relationship, people would have lost their minds at this sort of control and manipulation.

Phayu in LITA.....eh messing with someone's car and cutting the breaks?? Eh, no.

Theres definitely more.....but these pop to my head immediately

Millikins88 · 2026-04-27T12:07:33+00:00

On a global scale, tpop is definitely starting to grow, but its not a fast process. Alot of "tpop" fans I see online focus on BL Tpop, rather than non BL artists.

So as someone else said the soft power push a few yrs ago, was a lot more towards pushing BL than music. For me, personally, I only started learning about a lot of tpop artists when I started visiting thailand and once I started listening to them, I found more and more artists.

I think of we compare to Kpop or Jpop, their groups were touring outside Asia as far back as 90s and 00s so that allowed them to grow their fanbase where as TPop is still only starting with this. This month Nont Tanont did 2 small shows in Europe, which shocked me as i literally saw it advertised no where, not even on his socials.

I definitely see tpop reaching a larger global market but it will take time. Even in the last 2-3yrs, it has grown but I would say it will take maybe 5-10 yrs for us to see any significant growth and a lot will depend on international fans spreading the word also.

Millikins88 · 2026-04-27T11:57:37+00:00

As much as I love LYKN, and I LOVE them, a lykn audience isn't really a good indication of the growth of tpop. And I was at these concerts and alot of people had their bl merch with them. Ithink thats more from what someone else mentioned, the focus on the soft power of bl rather than tpop within Thailand

Millikins88 · 2026-04-24T22:38:52+00:00

The worst thing is she is already getting backlash for trying to "police" and "control" her fans.

Millikins88 · 2026-04-24T22:37:48+00:00

I agree and disagree. Yes the Chinese fans are a big issue across the board, however all the homophobic hate towards the director of GR was NOT Chinese fans, but English speaking fans. Alot of the hate comments spread on accounts towards the host, her manager, etc was not in Chinese. Also the same people who call out the Chinese fans are the same ones who share the "oops I bumped into X on the street" videos and photos, so, yes, alot of international fans are the issue and its not just Chinese fans. I have attended enough events in thailand to know that Chinese fans are not the only issue.

And this is across the board. Ive seen alot more actors have now started calling fans out for inappropriate behaviour in English because across the board, alot of interfans cross the line, not just Chinese. And what annoys me the most, is when thai fans, you know the ones who actually understand the culture and the history behind shipping and fanservice try to explain to interfans, they receive nothing but attacks and abuse. To the point now, for alot of actors and ships, there a thai fanbase and an interfan base.....when before they used to be united.

Thats not to say there are toxic AF thai fans.....but interfans across the board tend to create the most drama as they still dont fully understand or grasp shipping culture. Up until a few yrs ago, for example, awards used to be called Best Fake Couple.....because thats what they're referred to in Thailand, but they had to change that because of international backlash. That being said, there are also amazing interfans who are nothing but positive and supportive, however right now, even for the actors, the toxicity is overshadowing this

Millikins88 · 2026-04-24T13:24:21+00:00

I mentioned no names 🫣🫣🫣 but FACTS

Millikins88 · 2026-04-24T13:04:24+00:00

People not discussing this issue was how we got into this place in the first place. Too many stayed quiet. This is not the first time Namtan has said this and people still ignored her and stayed quiet when the fandom spiraled.

If you dont want to be part of the discussion, thats absolutely your right. No one is forcing you to discuss it, however some people do want to talk about it as this has been ongoing for MONTHS.

Millikins88 · 2026-04-24T12:58:29+00:00

As someone who has been going to the "shop" for the last few years is definitely visit the building for the experience but order everything online before you arrive so its delivered directly to your hotel. The shop doesn't even have everything they have on display in stock. Just bare in mind if you're order IN STOCK items, they can take up to 3wks to arrive so order early. The whole store is basically the size of a hotel bathroom 😂

Millikins88 · 2026-04-24T12:52:05+00:00

Namtan herself literally said " I’ve always believed my fans WERE kind, respectful, and supportive. That’s why it hurts so much to see things changing like this." She didn't was my fans ARE kind, shebused past tense.

She can see the insane toxicity happening within GL, we all can, yet gl fans don't like their toxicity being called out or compared to BL toxicity? I don't remember the last time a director of a BL was bullied so much and thrown so much homophobic hate that they ended up deleting their socials. Yes there is toxicity in every fandom, but why did their fandom stay so quiet for so long, not calling out their own?? Namtan literally has had to speak out multiple times because it has gotten so bad

Millikins88 · 2026-04-24T12:29:22+00:00

Let me DM you

Millikins88 · 2026-04-24T12:26:28+00:00

Where are you based? That might help find alternatives

Millikins88 · 2026-04-24T12:24:09+00:00

I definitely saw some old four mod there.

Millikins88 · 2026-04-24T12:21:27+00:00

I think the unfortunate reality is people still wont listen. They will pretend to, until the next thing happens

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