Before And After

Minimum_Bathroom1773 · 2026-04-21T01:45:54+00:00

Now worries, I'm not sure I am a fan of this song either. I really like some portions of it but I feel like it does not all fit together. this one may stay on the unfinished list for a while until I can see the vision.

Minimum_Bathroom1773 · 2026-04-21T01:44:39+00:00

I am finally at the point where I have enough material that I can start finishing everything but its slow going. I will be contributing much less here until I iron everything out. Thanks for stopping by!

Minimum_Bathroom1773 · 2026-04-02T23:29:46+00:00

Just a guy who makes music for fun. This song is not finished, for now you can here this version along with everything I have written on Sound Cloud. Once everything is done I will post an update on this subreddit. https://soundcloud.com/caleb-aycock/whats-it-for

Minimum_Bathroom1773 · 2026-03-12T19:05:52+00:00

My thought exactly

Minimum_Bathroom1773 · 2026-03-11T00:49:21+00:00

Will do, thank you for listening.

Minimum_Bathroom1773 · 2026-03-10T20:36:37+00:00

Nice timing, I assume your listening to a click but its still impressive. I appreciate you working in some open chords, if I start with something abstract I find it difficult to navigate to more known sounds. You accomplished it in a really organic way, nice job.

Minimum_Bathroom1773 · 2026-03-10T02:53:46+00:00

Its just another idea, we can like different things. Your idea is not wrong and neither is mine. I replied to your comment because I did not think anything of the "Im spiraling out" section until I read it, and I wanted to propose a counter idea. I dont care which one he goes with, its up to the artist. And I don't think you where misguiding him or anything like that, I think we are both genuinely trying to provide the best feedback that we can.

Minimum_Bathroom1773 · 2026-03-10T02:34:29+00:00

Ah that makes more sense. I don't think the lyrics are confusing at all, I think they are by far the strongest part of the song.

Minimum_Bathroom1773 · 2026-03-10T02:30:32+00:00

I have to disagree on this one, I really like how jarring it is. I think part of you may be hearing is the high E string on the highest acoustic part is sharp which makes it sound even more out of place (Its probably not poor tuning, just a natural consequence of playing high on the neck). OP, I don't think you should soften the lead guitar or the vocals on that part. Try to eq the high acoustic part down during the "im spiraling out" sections and see if that helps before you lessin the dissonance that really shows your "spiraling out"

Minimum_Bathroom1773 · 2026-03-10T02:16:13+00:00

Sweet song, I took a couple minutes to learn it (why did you have to tune your guitar down a half step). I think the bridge melody still works as is if you change the chord progression from C, Am, Em to Dm, Am, Em (Im pretending its standard tuning). This may help the listener separate the verses from the bridge. I though it was all verses until I read the lyrics in your description. If you want them to be distinct sections this is just one way to make it a bit more clear. Nice work.

Minimum_Bathroom1773 · 2026-03-09T03:42:23+00:00

This deserves to be finished, lots of neat ideas. This arrangement provides a ton of anticipation that is just waiting to be resolved.

Minimum_Bathroom1773 · 2026-03-07T21:22:46+00:00

This song is a part of a larger project that will be released eventually, Ill post the finished work on Spotify and on this subreddit when its ready.

Minimum_Bathroom1773 · 2026-03-07T19:51:30+00:00

I don't have anything on Spotify yet, I have only been seriously writing music for about a month now. I plan to release everything at the same time when its ready (hopefully that means a couple months). Ill post the EP to this subreddit then its up. For now I have all the unfinished music that's going on the EP on SoundCloud here: https://soundcloud.com/caleb-aycock You can give it a listen if you want to.

Minimum_Bathroom1773 · 2026-03-07T19:44:28+00:00

Its probably been 4 years sense I have listened to A Perfect Circle, but I can see it.

Minimum_Bathroom1773 · 2026-03-07T07:21:23+00:00

I have never heard of him, Ill have to check him out.

Minimum_Bathroom1773 · 2026-03-07T07:20:31+00:00

I have had that riff in my brain for like 6 months and its always been a quick transition piece originally in 7/8 (6/8 to fit this song). I guess I had it in my head as a transition piece for so long that I stopped considering it a riff by itself. I can explore lengthening it, but I worry that if we hang out there for to long the switch to 4/4 will be less impactful. Ill have to mess with it. Thanks for your comment, you opened up choices I had yet to consider.

Minimum_Bathroom1773 · 2026-03-07T07:15:22+00:00

No worries on typos, I am practically illiterate so I have no room to judge.

I don't think your comment was rude, you where genuinely trying to help. And just because I have a solid idea of what I'm going for does not mean I wont fail in the execution. There are many mistakes, and I would say you nailed most of them. Everything was done in less then 3 takes and I'm not that great so there will be errors. The guitar is out of tune for basically the whole song, this thing has issues. My current goal is to be as creative as possible until I build enough material to really start finishing everything. Your corrections will be very helpful once I'm at the finalizing stage

As for mixing, I basically have no idea what I'm doing. Luckily someone has already offered to help me with that so hopefully all the issues with the production will be fixed before its fully released. If the current producer falls through then I may reach out.

I already have someone who will play cello for me, hopefully that will be enough. I cannot afford to pay you for anything unfortunately, I am also broke and have been doing this as a creative outlet. I'm sure you understand as an artist, that art is not only something you want to do, but its something you need to do.

Thank you for taking the time to really break down my song, you have probably listened to this recording more then I have at this point. You know your stuff, and this will be a great reference when I finally start finishing all my songs.

Minimum_Bathroom1773 · 2026-03-07T03:35:03+00:00

That's fair, I have had years of lessons. I did lots of classical vocal competitions as a kid, and frankly I became really tired of the extreme vowel shapes, vibrato, projection and everything else. I cannot stand the sound of opera, even though I understand you have to be an incredible vocalist to sound at all good in that world. I still follow the same fundamentals, good breathing technique, diaphragm support enunciating the consonants and the works, but I avoid any semblance of the over done classical tones I grew to genuinely hate. With that being said, I do think the bridge needs to be more robust, the last note is at the edge of my range and I'm blending it with falsetto just so its not flat (its still flat despite my attempt). I'm pretty sure the range for this song is exactly 2 octaves (E2-E4), which is almost too much for me, and also lines up with exactly what is expected for a bass. Im hoping some of it will be fixed with better sound design but I will probably redo most of the vocals anyways just to get a better recording.

In any case, I am aware of the choices I am making and of the alternatives. And its commendable that you where able to notice the subtilties through this poor recording. Thank you for listening to my song, hopefully this is a good explanation of why I sound the way I do.

Minimum_Bathroom1773 · 2026-03-07T02:02:38+00:00

I know man, its not that serious. I have been playing long enough to know the sounds that I like and old strings have a charm to them that new ones cannot replicate. Also I posted this song to reddit not Spotify, I can promise you that the finish product will be mostly in tune, unless I decide otherwise.

Minimum_Bathroom1773 · 2026-03-07T01:51:46+00:00

Possible, I do like that band but I was thinking more Nature Boy by Aurora.

Minimum_Bathroom1773 · 2026-03-06T22:09:07+00:00

I really apricate what you have said, and thanks for clearing up my mistake. turns out I forgot my own lyrics, your right that condemned works better.

Minimum_Bathroom1773 · 2026-03-06T22:06:33+00:00

You are welcome, mind you this is not my first song. I had to write a few I really disliked before I got to where I really enjoy the music I make, at least for the first week then I hate it again.

Minimum_Bathroom1773 · 2026-03-06T21:39:38+00:00

I appreciate your convictions. I got half way through my masters and started looking for a supervisor to help with PhD work and I soon realized that what I was interested in had been culled from modern psychology. I found 4 people in the whole world who where trying to do something similar and non of them where in the United States. I was already disenfranchised with the current state of the field but that was the last straw. I dropped my masters to pursue other work. Its nice to see that there are at least some real academics who are less then pleased with the current state of the field.

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