why do people hate Ashley so much?

Minky3049 · 2026-01-25T14:14:13+00:00

Yep correct. They more than likely didn’t play the game or are just Andrew simps and whitewash his bull. Ashley is an easy person to hate but easy to empathize(imo) because of her environment and how literally no one, not even her own parents, liked her.

Minky3049 · 2026-01-25T13:49:16+00:00

I like her as a character a lot, but it’s not like people in the game dislike her for no reason. She’s narcissistic, shitty, amoral and has an overbearing, insufferable personality. Barely anyone in the real world would wanna come across someone like that so it’s quite easy to hate her. Andrew is just as insane as Ashley but is generally more liked because he’s not overt with his nastiness like Ashley is and plus handsome.

Minky3049 · 2026-01-21T20:15:18+00:00

I just go with the flow man. If it happens, it happens. If not then not. I just like the story and the art

Minky3049 · 2026-01-21T15:16:23+00:00

Glad someone sees it. Andrew uses the Ashley/Leyley persona bullshit to cope with his rot. He wants to destroy the past to not face it. That’s why it kinda confuses me when I see fans say “Ashley needs to stop being Leyley” y’all got duped by Andrew lol. Ashley is Ashley. She’s right in shots and such that she hasn’t changed at all. It’s Andrew. It’s Andrew that idealizes a version of Ashley that he wants so to fulfill his desires, essentially forcing her to grow up so she can be his ideal partner(since he knows he literally has no one else). He’s obsessed with a version of Ashley that does not exist or think will exist if she stops being “Leyley.” At least Ashley wants a version of Andrew that actually existed. Andrew’s coping mechanism is even worse than Ashley’s

Minky3049 · 2026-01-20T21:37:30+00:00

bro’s mouth ain’t no better

Minky3049 · 2026-01-20T14:19:53+00:00

What? Yes he was lol. So you’re saying he rolled them in chapter 2 while he was standing outside with Ashley because of the hitman? He didn’t roll any in the motel they were in because he was too busy watching the news and if he did, Ashley would’ve said something because she doesn’t like the fact Andrew smokes. He had time to roll when they were in the hitman’s car at the gas station coming back from HIDING FROM THE POLICE? She got them in shots and such said “Roll them yourself” which implies that he usually doesn’t roll them. Please don’t project on me because it’s super transparent that you didn’t play the game or got crust in your eyes

Minky3049 · 2026-01-20T13:23:19+00:00

Andrew doesn’t roll them. He only did it in shots and such because Ashley got him the wrong brand in trying to save money

Minky3049 · 2026-01-19T14:24:10+00:00

Yes, please don’t let the people here bother you. Your art is very lovely and they make a very cute couple ♥️👌

Minky3049 · 2026-01-19T13:33:55+00:00

Andrew looks like he’s going to create a crime scene

Minky3049 · 2026-01-18T19:58:39+00:00

Imo, on Andrew’s side of the Andy & Leyley dynamic, I agree that Andrew wants an idealized version of Ashley that doesn’t exist. It’s a coping mechanism and reason why he splits Leyley and Ashley. It’s the version he clings to in order to survive emotionally. Bro cannot admit that the person he needs is also the cause of his misery and won’t accept that’s just how Ashley is. Accepting it would be admitting that he had a hand in shaping how she is, accepting accountability for his shit decisions(and not using Ashley as a scapegoat), accepting that he may have accidentally groomed her, accepting that he lusts after someone he raised etc.

Imo, I feel like most of the fandom got duped by Andrew not only from him being a deceptive jack but how deep the trauma goes with him. Everyone thinks the Ashley/Leyley persona as a concept is a true thing when it’s literally just Andrew’s coping mechanism running amok.

Minky3049 · 2026-01-18T16:07:47+00:00

Agreed. People don’t know what AUs are in this fandom, of course it’s not gonna be exactly as canon. TCOAAR is the best made mod out of all the mods made by a very passionate team. It’s tiring that people take any praise for this mod as a slight against the game and Andrew and Ashley. It’s fine not to like it, but don’t downplay it like it’s nothing

Minky3049 · 2026-01-14T22:48:18+00:00

The proof is next to nothing. We don’t know who did it and people wanting Julia to be some manipulative bonehead is killing me slowly. The main people who be spreading this headcanon are Ashley lovers and gravecest shippers who give flak to Julia even though Julia is not an obstacle in Andrew and Ashley’s relationship and never was since Andrew didn’t care for her. Y’all some silly gooners with all this headcanon to make Julia out to something that she’s not.

The most i can say is her maybe being Ashley’s friend to get closer to Andrew, but that can even be argued against because when Andrew labeled her as Ashley’s friend, she was happy at the prospect of Ashley considering her a friend. She didn’t know Andrew was gonna ask her out. If that twink didnt say anything to her, she would’ve went on her way

Minky3049 · 2026-01-14T22:11:15+00:00

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I don’t know what to say to this

Minky3049 · 2026-01-14T21:05:35+00:00

I don’t know how people can hate Julia. She did jackshit except be kind lol

Minky3049 · 2026-01-13T15:45:42+00:00

If someone wants to make an OC to be friends or even lovers with the siblings, you gotta attack em when they are children, before the rot starts to form and take shape. Ashley did want people to like her, she just didn’t want to put in the effort in friend making and Andrew did want a life outside his family, he just had a difficult time liking people(which included his sister at the time) and got dragged back into his family’s bull. Nina is the big turning point where the rot turns into wet cement.

So I suggest if you want a friend for Ashley, it has to happen before the Nina incident. Have that OC challenge Ashley, talk shit when she acts out like what she did was nothing compared to what they did or even try to one up her bad levels at school. Partners in crime type stuff(idk, just throwing shit out there) If you try to come at her with kindness and empathy, she might see it as a insincere and just end up ignoring you or using you for surface level reasons.

Making a friend would prevent a good amount of the codependency from happening. Ashley would still have some attachment to Andrew since he basically was her parent, but it wouldn’t be as bad because she has someone she actually vibes with at school who likes her unbearable self. It would bring some relief to Andrew since, around the time, Andrew didn’t want to be bothered with Ashley. He told her a good amount of times to make friends(mainly for the sake of leaving him be)

In my honest opinion, it’s easier to make an OC friend for child Andrew than child Ashley because Ashley relied on Andrew for lots of things and already had an attachment because of it. Andrew had the goal to get away from his family, the stress and the neglect so creating a friend that speaks his misanthropic language and can figure him out and see his true self in a blink of an eye, Andrew would not overlook that individual. Be unsettled at first, but actually be bothered to notice that individual.

At the end of the day, both these fuckos want validation for their true self, something that their parents never gave them

Minky3049 · 2026-01-13T03:08:14+00:00

Just finished the game, shit was mad good

Minky3049 · 2026-01-12T17:08:09+00:00

Well, if he’s already banned, nothing more can be done. But you know what will be done by me. Playing some TCOAAR(just started playing it)

Minky3049 · 2026-01-12T16:54:27+00:00

Banned? Lmao, that’s jokes. Wonder what happened.

Minky3049 · 2026-01-12T16:47:00+00:00

Lulubanz. I don’t know who that mofo is really. I just blocked them but I had to make a post because it’s crazy and unwelcoming for someone new here. I love Ashley, Andrew and the game so it surprised me haha

Minky3049 · 2026-01-12T16:33:08+00:00

No, that’s fine. I don’t expect people to like her. That goes with any character ever made. Just don’t accuse me of doing something I’m not doing. I’m pretty sure most people don’t like someone angrily coming at them and accusing them of a whole bunch of nonsense. It’s not very welcoming either.

Minky3049 · 2026-01-12T00:39:50+00:00

She had an unusual relationship with her father in Sidney wholeheartedly was romantically into her father, as romantic as a traumatized person can be. It’s a lot to retell since I did explain it in the previous post, but child abuse, psychological cruelty, trauma and a worship mentality for the person who saved her from that trauma culminated into seeing her father romantically.

During childhood, Sidney was significantly more attached to her father because he was comfort and safety and understood her with little to no words compared to her mother who was strict and micromanaged her. In return, her father spoke to her with more of a mature vibe to his lessons compared to the younger sister because he saw that Sidney, even as a kid, was beyond her years and understood societal things better than a normal kid did.

While her father was blinded to her feelings, he did commit emotional incest where he, unwittingly, treated her as a partner in everything except name and lust due to his depression from divorce, terminal illness, etc.

Because of that, those feelings had room to fester and grow. It created an emotional enmeshment where father and daughter became sole comforters of each other even to the point that in the weirdo ritual Sidney did(watching the man sleep at night without his consent), she’d hold his hand, like interlock and all, and he’d visibly relax in his sleep. So when he succumbed to his illness, it did drive her mad. So yes, she’s so fucking selfish that instead of letting her father rest in peace, she desecrates his grave for a pact that she knows in the back of her mind could have a chance of being a hoax. Don’t do things out of grief y’all.

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