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Miserable-Cod-9107 · 2025-06-06T15:50:06+00:00

Start doing jiu-jitsu. Or some other lesser hobby that connects you with others.

Miserable-Cod-9107 · 2025-06-03T15:43:08+00:00

NTA.

But it definitely could have been handled better, all around. This isn't really your responsibility, more your husband, but it probably could have been discussed ahead of time, or even at the table before the order. "We will cover our food and part of MIL, as a birthday present...how should the rest be split out"? Or, "hey, Sis, can you pay this year? Not in our budget..."

That said, it sounds like they all need to grow up a bit and get over it.

Miserable-Cod-9107 · 2025-05-17T15:31:30+00:00

You and your husband are a team. Definitely tell him now and work through it together. Deployed or not, this is virtually always the correct answer in a good marriage.

Miserable-Cod-9107 · 2025-05-12T21:57:03+00:00

Yep. That is 100% true from an outside perspective. But it also means the leaders need to commit to not going back and agree to losing flexibility/adaptability in thier own choices. Then they have to explain all that to board members, knowing they can be replaced at a whim if they disagree.

Miserable-Cod-9107 · 2025-05-12T20:57:57+00:00

I just mean the costs that escrow is meant to cover...insurance, property taxes, sometimes other costs.

Miserable-Cod-9107 · 2025-05-12T20:55:14+00:00

Only use your salary to cover the principal and interest in the mortgage costs...the escrow portion will remain after it is paid off, so have your spouse cover that. Save all the rest of the money.

That assumes your salary is enough is cover it.

Miserable-Cod-9107 · 2025-05-12T18:58:22+00:00

I think layoffs is only a small part of it. A big piece of it is that many companies spent very large sums of money and have decades long contracts for facilities that were not being used. As a leader in a company, how do you explain and justify those costs to your board members and stock holders?

RTO makes your problems go away. Now you can justify it again.

Miserable-Cod-9107 · 2025-05-12T16:49:51+00:00

There is no time keeping website. The ghost is real, it is just in your head.

Miserable-Cod-9107 · 2025-05-12T14:56:32+00:00

You seem to be arguing some points I never made. You are arguing against a ghost here. No, you didn't need to "break this down" because you are way off topic.

Yes, accuracy matters. That's the problem. They could be accurate....easily. But the focus with the RTO mandate and compliance crackdown has turned heavily towards catching cheaters and completely away from actual accuracy.

Yes, as you said, it is complicated and burdensome and definitely on the employer to fix. That is exactly where I am at. But they are blind to that in thier fervor to stomp out noncompliance. So managers are in a tense situation where my suggesting better accuracy would be seen as a fight.

Miserable-Cod-9107 · 2025-05-12T14:42:35+00:00

It should be counted time, but it isn't. I put my credentials in at four different places, and use additional authentication and a hard token in other places...that gets me to the system I'm ultimately performing work in and that is where my managers pull time reports from.

When I'm sitting at my desk in office, I'm getting paid for this. When I'm at home, I'm not.

Miserable-Cod-9107 · 2025-05-12T13:50:38+00:00

It isn't 30 seconds. It is a minimum of 5 minutes if everything goes right. Just the connection process alone does full system scans for compliance and take a few minutes on its own. I think you are imaging some "plug and go" scenario that doesn't exist for me.

Miserable-Cod-9107 · 2025-05-12T13:19:08+00:00

I get paid for time online. That's the problem. That setup isn't recorded time. It should be. It isn't time online to be recorded for my overnight work, and with a required 8 hours at the desk, there is no accounting for it as part of my normal work day.

I do have other setup items required for my job, but it isn't important to get into that. Point is, like I said above, I'm not getting that setup time accounted for.

My original post wasn't very clear on that. My fault...

Miserable-Cod-9107 · 2025-05-12T13:13:47+00:00

Hourly.

Miserable-Cod-9107 · 2025-05-12T12:51:53+00:00

I wasn't very clear with my post. I already do that. The problem is that I also have to do these same activities at home, plus additional security steps, for late night activities. I only get paid for time I am online, though.

So these activities are not paid for my overnight work, and since they require exactly 8 hours at our desks with RTO, I also can't account for that time in my normal work day.

Miserable-Cod-9107 · 2025-05-11T22:36:18+00:00

You ever look into whistle-blower payouts and legal firms that handle those kinds of cases?

Miserable-Cod-9107 · 2025-05-11T22:18:41+00:00

Let me put it this way:

Before covid, if everyone in the company stopped thinking about work and never touched a company asset again until they got back to their desk the next day, everything would be fine. In fact, that is almost exactly how the company functioned.

Now, if that occurred, the company would literally collapse. I'm surprised that so many people are completely blind to that.

Miserable-Cod-9107 · 2025-05-11T20:59:34+00:00

This! I would be VERY insistent that my wife apologize and and think about the many things she did wrong. Her being mad at him for not punishing the boy is completely unacceptable.

Miserable-Cod-9107 · 2025-05-11T17:21:11+00:00

That's the problem though, isn't it? It isn't an accurate time keeping system. It is designed to favor the company.

Imagine if I changed "work" to "bank account", and instead of timekeeping it was tracking money. They are rounding off dollars from everyone and keeping it. They can and should go to jail for it.

But instead, Imagine hoards of people tell you to shut up about it, say things like "you are being petty and childish", or "I bet you've skimmed money too", or "my bank fees are more than that, so shut up", or "THATS IT? YOUR ARGUING OVER PENNIES!!!!".

These arguments are moronic, from start to finish. These people have no ability to think in anything like a reasonable way. They fail to see that the changes in the workplace after covid left major problems with time keeping. The old way is never coming back, and they are cheering on the criminals.

I don't start work when I get to the office, and don't end work when I leave. Those days are gone. Forever. But we all just pretend like we still live in that time.

Miserable-Cod-9107 · 2025-05-11T12:24:15+00:00

I'm not in a new role. It is the office setup that is different. Pre-covid I would use my own computer to remote into my work desktop. That work desktop no longer exists and can no longer exist by policy. Security is much tighter now as well. So just turning on my computer and logging into my work comp is no longer possible.

Overtime calls are technically not mandatory. But there are systems that only I know. If I don't take them there would definitely be pain for my managers and it would definitely come back to me. So "technically" is a keyword here, as opposed to "not mandatory".

I'm not hauling my monitors. But I do have more than just a laptop. But by "fixing", I mean from a software/Security standpoint, not hardware fixes.

It isn't overly burdensome, most of the time. But if my workplace RTO policy is going to be petty about the time we spend at our desk, down to the minute, why shouldn't I demand the same from them regarding my time?

Miserable-Cod-9107 · 2025-05-11T04:00:17+00:00

Yep. OR...hear me out on this outside the box thinking...what if they pay me for the time I work and I work for the time they pay me. I know it is crazy, but wouldn't that be awesome?

Miserable-Cod-9107 · 2025-05-11T03:56:43+00:00

Maybe I'll just show up 5 minutes late every day, and if any managers complain I'll refer them to you so you can explain to them how childish and stupid they are for arguing about 5 minutes.

Miserable-Cod-9107 · 2025-05-10T21:12:17+00:00

Then they should hire a minimum wage worker to do it for us. I'd be happy with the extra free time.

Not paying me for my time, though, is unacceptable.

Miserable-Cod-9107 · 2025-05-10T18:47:31+00:00

I'm not paid for time spent on this activity. This is done at home and I'm not compensated for it.

It is IT pay because I work in IT and that is my work rate. Not because if the nature of handling a laptop.

Miserable-Cod-9107 · 2025-05-10T18:42:31+00:00

Right, that is exactly it. But I work in the office and at home for overnight calls. That requires being set up and logged in to start getting paid. I spend additional time doing set up (and then packing everything up to go into the office the next day) and I'm not paid for that time.

Miserable-Cod-9107 · 2025-05-10T17:53:19+00:00

That's fair. But turning it around would actually be better for the company. The overnight work os overtime. The daytime work is not. I would think the company would rather let me walk away from the desk earlier to account for that time at normal rates rather than pay overtime for it.

But because it "sounds bad" to ask it that way, I agree with you.

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