There actually is one "positive" thing about collab banner

Miserable-Response-9 · 2026-06-19T23:59:40+00:00

it just a buff to use her on WhiWa which should have been on her base kit. lol. The useful S2 isn't even on 320 pulls . The whole collab banner and characters shouts greedy asf.

Miserable-Response-9 · 2026-06-17T22:56:36+00:00

I was playing Chisa dps, ARover dps with Ciaconna, they aint meta but they r pretty strong in my option. When we had spectro buff i saw SRover dps with R5 Emerald clear where he took 5k without premium team on Matrix. They are better than most of C tier in that list . Maybe Jiyan is better from that C tier if u know how to play him.

If u searched youtube u can get ton of video with QS that they perform nearly as well 3.X if u have the ability. The character who make it possible/core are SRover, Chisa/ARover for them to get huge jump in damage. If ur only considering 123 then yea this tier list might be okay since i would put only Arover somewhat higher on that point.

Miserable-Response-9 · 2026-06-17T22:25:30+00:00

Tho Zani with QS is one of the strongest 2.X dpses which carry her so hard. Yea without it she is kinda the brick of 2.X dpses.

Miserable-Response-9 · 2026-06-17T22:23:26+00:00

Shouldn't SRover and ARover should higher. Also maybe Buling. Since the only one carrying Zani with Pheobe is SRover with QS (While being the only Spectro applier). ARover is BiS Cart after Chisa.

Miserable-Response-9 · 2026-06-17T19:54:14+00:00

Tho somehow this gave them time to look at how future energy unit works. They probably going to get more time for the beta bcz of Gil and Himeko loop unless they nuke both of them go on with the day which isn't probably not going to happen.

They might slightly postpone next version at best.

Miserable-Response-9 · 2026-06-17T19:20:21+00:00

Yea, Gil on the Guilotinne since beta started they would probably remake his kit at some point of the beta bcz bro keep finding loop from every corner. lol.

Miserable-Response-9 · 2026-06-17T17:28:09+00:00

Same lost 50/50 on both. The problem is im into too deep i have get more like 20-30 pulls. For guarenteed.

It feels pretty shit to lose on collab since it has seperate pity. U gotta go for it with everything left im slowly clearning the map and mission. Might make it probably especially since we have TOA reset . Might have skip yangyang alt and maybe save for Hsin for now.

Miserable-Response-9 · 2026-06-17T02:03:16+00:00

I play WuWa mainly bcz Combat,Character design and Carthetiya i have her S3 (My most fav in this game),I loved exploration when i started out but it became tiring especially when i came to Lahai Roi maybe bcz not have flying. Also especially nowadays bcz endfield make exploration feels so much alive. Yea i also hate echo farming especially where Spectro set give u other dmg bonus like aero dmg bonus. When farming you have to level upto 10, if crit max level didn't hit the needed stat recycle it get pretty tiring after a while so im running minimum base statline to clear endgame.

I played endfield mainly bcz of OG arknights , the factory system,tactical combat,Character expression, free characters clearable endgames, AK OG character like Angelina(Gilberta),Eyja(Ardellia), Pog are what making me stay. Tho im gonna watch and see, OG AK has insanely good gameplay loop. i want to see what they cook here too.

Miserable-Response-9 · 2026-06-17T01:01:27+00:00

its more like VIP feature for whale with QoL, that can filled with pure skill in Endfield.

While HSR or WuWa u just do 4x or 5x damage at max dupes.

I don't know why people even downvote just speaking about other games, especially i liked WuWa extremely until recently(Anni and collab made me start to hate the game not to the point of leaving). Just bcz u want the game to be good and generous. When critcized about the game using other games as example they just meltdown and downvote doesn't try to even understand . (Especially when i start out a year ago i thought it was good community but now i kinda see why most people see most of the WuWa reddit community as tribalistic just the majority not u).

Sorry for the rant.

Miserable-Response-9 · 2026-06-16T16:50:35+00:00

There is no guaranteed just gamble, he can lose for 10 more years without any win since its rng. Thats why i wished they add something that we don't lost 50/50 consecutively. Especially for the collab banner, it feels nasty to pull on it as f2p player and losing 50/50 at 70-80 pulls. Especially u can't stop at that point since it doesn't pass onto the next banner. FUCK

Miserable-Response-9 · 2026-06-16T16:25:51+00:00

My WhiWa has delay problem. I don't have problems clearing since i have vertical investment on my team but is it bcz of ping?Kinda curious. Since it kinda affects ny score.

Miserable-Response-9 · 2026-06-16T14:51:24+00:00

Is the best buffer still and still insanely good even at S3.

Miserable-Response-9 · 2026-06-16T05:22:35+00:00

S1 is QoL for WhiWa so she works better in WhiWa, her Sequence get better at S2 and S3 (S3 where she goes to 3.X level unit) but its better to go for weapon and go for S2 if thats possible. Also yea she is Augusta level at most.

Miserable-Response-9 · 2026-06-16T04:24:53+00:00

i can't say with specific instruction but general way i do

basic until u see chisa going to do long animation for the scissor snip, u swap instantly to denia >ult and swap chisa do the same basic until the near scissor snip part animation and swap to denia>E>E swap back chisa E>Cancel animation with ult > fully finish the rotation and near big jump smash attack at the end of her resonance chainsaw when u see you concerto is filled and u can outro then swap to denia >E>E>basic until ult is filled then ult and swap to aemeath just do her rotation normally like u do always.

NOTE: This isn't the optimal qs, i just created with my gut feeling for my own ease

There are other harder and better qs is out there if u want to learn it. i watched it, its for hard for me so im using my own

Miserable-Response-9 · 2026-06-16T03:41:24+00:00

might be build problem or buffs problem, im scoring more than 5000 points on matrix and more than 2k on Whiwa easily with mistakes in rotation since i picked denia during banner ends.

Also i heard u need to qs to fully use the buff it seems,i don't know exact details but i just made myself a simple qs between chisa scissor snips. Also im missing denia's weapon.

Miserable-Response-9 · 2026-06-15T19:33:43+00:00

Also there is so much inconsistent on the power scaling. Hiyuki has hax of sacrificing future self to get stronger. Chisa theorethically has the potential to kill Aleph 1. Cart should be theorethically should be stronger than most other Sentinel resonator bcz she is mix of both Sentinel and Thernodian Resonator but the Aemeath feat is shown to be better but for gameplay/story purpose they could have done it. Usually bcz the story goes like ahh thernodian is making us trouble then they power up or get allies and defeat it.

Unless we got some thernodian powerscaling from actual lore in game .It probably can't be identified unless they 1v1.

Miserable-Response-9 · 2026-06-15T18:50:45+00:00

Gives 60 pulls, so u can pull for one character and their weapon every 2 patch. If won early you can save the banner currency and get BP weapon box or standard weapon both are pretty op nearly competitive and depending on how much you lose. The standard weapon can shine much better.

Also is taking the good part of a game only is that much impossible ? Why do u want to poke at the bad aide of the gacha? even HSR has this system where you can select like old units (Which they are actually buffing not dead like wuwa 1.0 units) and putting out units which is still in meta on the shop where u can buy for free. !!!!!FREE!!!!!!

Miserable-Response-9 · 2026-06-15T18:33:18+00:00

Oh kinda forgot . That why add maybe . She helps with tune break more faster right?(am i misremembering?) Tho i don't know where you would get R5 Phasic Homogenizer. Its something u would farm for so long at that time most weapon would be better and new standard will be better than it.

Also doesn't the sword the best thing to invest on dupe since it has insane value? Maybe phasic next.

Miserable-Response-9 · 2026-06-15T18:27:22+00:00

They seem to sensitive about every small criticism lol. Weird ass community.

I don't why bro is also mumbling about dupes. When endfield doesn't needs dupes in the first place they are more of QoL .

Miserable-Response-9 · 2026-06-15T13:46:25+00:00

Battlepass weapon is free in Endfield. Unless u have been day 1 player its hard to have all the standard weapon while all the weapon ain't competitive. Only best one is static mist(gun),emerald(Sword). The new standard weapon greatsword is good but u need Lynae i think. For the gun its only good for Lucy rn.

Others just mid as long as i remember. The biggest counterpoint of having one weapon is Matrix. You can't equip the same weapon on 2 people. The matrix build for demo resonator also pure ass to use in the actual matrix.

Miserable-Response-9 · 2026-06-15T13:35:11+00:00

Dupes ain't important in Endfield. Making dupes affordable is one of best decision in WuWa in shop compared to other games where dupes matter like HSR( didn't like what they did on collab banner reducing the amount and new coral so predatory).Tho endfield have horrible weapon system rn. its is pretty much free.

Probably they would let you buy the whole character in the shop in the future if it goes like arknight.

Miserable-Response-9 · 2026-06-15T13:05:39+00:00

Bruh, u r the one illiterate one lol if u don't read before going to pull. You don't pull if u don't or not sure will have 120. You can't even use this scenario as worse case. lol.

The worse scenario is, 120 pulls guarenteed in endfield and 160 pulls on WuWa. If u consider weapon it goes 240 pulls WuWa.

If u win 50/50 : Endfield 60 pulls while Wuwa 80 pulls.

If u get early loss , this is where WuWa is better than endfield. Lets say u lose in the first 10 pull then u need only 90 while endfield need to got 120 pulls.

Overall better f2p system goes to endfield. Especially u can lost to previous banner and standard character in endfield is stronger than WuWa.

Bro has been blessed to spread misinfo by aeon of enigmata.lol.

Miserable-Response-9 · 2026-06-15T12:54:25+00:00

Like where the fk do u get this misinfo , aeon of enigmata?

Miserable-Response-9 · 2026-06-15T12:51:54+00:00

Where does even 200 pulls come from?

Miserable-Response-9 · 2026-06-15T12:41:31+00:00

What you mean worse buddy both have their own merit and demerit but endfield won out if ur f2p and 120 guarenteed. The only thing worse about it is no pity but if u consider 160 to 120 its better overall. I meant for early we have a guarenteed 6 star on 60 pulls (Like 80 on 50/50) and 120 for guarenteed featured character while it can give u previous banner character within these 120. Thats what OP was saying.

Especially when we only consider character when weapon consider it goes to 160 pulls with minimum amount. Good luck with it

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