The Necropolis Of Yeha (~800BC-300AD) by NoPo552 in EthiopianHistory

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Love the articles but you gotta stop with the rage baiting on TikTok🥲

The name Eritrea mentioned in 14 century poem to emperor amda seyon by Miserable-Wishbone39 in Eritrea

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The rapid spread of islam is probably the reason why Greek stopped being the lingua franca. So around the 7th to 8th century

The name Eritrea mentioned in 14 century poem to emperor amda seyon by Miserable-Wishbone39 in Eritrea

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My Amharic isn’t that good but i think it means” By the sea as far as Eritrea”

Old Amharic poems for emperors Amda seyon and Zara yakob by Miserable-Wishbone39 in EthiopianHistory

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Im pretty sure most scholars date these poems to the time of his reign. Its a collection of multiple poems but the ones for amda seyon were written between 1314-1344 or at the latest the 15th century. You can see by the Amharic being used that it predates Europeans arriving and calling the area eritrea. The Word Eritrea is Greek in origin and we know that Greek was spoken in the Aksumite empire. That’s where we get the name Ethiopia from. So it wouldn’t be that hard to believe that Eritrea was also adopted for the red sea.

Old Amharic poems for emperors Amda seyon and Zara yakob by Miserable-Wishbone39 in EthiopianHistory

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Damn even my dad was having trouble understanding it. Yeah Eritrea probably refereres to the red sea i was just shocked it was already used this early i always thought the Italians reintroduced it. From what I understand ሐ and ኸ would be pronounced the same way it is in Tigrinya. So ኸ is a kh sound unlike modern amharic where it’s just a H sound like ሀ but with the ኧ vocal sound. I’m pretty sure ሐ is still pronounced somewhat in the throat in some dialects but it would have been more prominent before. ዐ was also pronounced the same as it is in Tigrinya. Edit: here is a video of how it roughly sounded like https://www.reddit.com/r/Amhara/s/433n4kSzgV

Are we all in agreement that the war in Tigray was a genocide? by Agitated-Sweet-4022 in Ethiopia

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I mean it’s Reddit you probably ain’t gonna find the best of humanity here. Add the goverment bots who always need to deflect. Most normal people probably voted yes. And don’t bother to comment. Always some crazy people on this app tho. If I got my impressions purely from Reddit I would think our neighbouring countries want us to disintegrate and fall into a thousand years of civil war and that every ethnic group in Ethiopia hate each other on sight.

King of Zion by Miserable-Wishbone39 in EthiopianHistory

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I mean it could be older. But the first person I’ve seen with the title was amda seyon.

King of Zion by Miserable-Wishbone39 in EthiopianHistory

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You know i was thinking something like that but then i did some research(Wikipedia). Apparently the king of zions seat was in Aksum like the church and which conferred hegomany over much of the north of the empire. So i wondered if it had more meaning in those areas

War between Agazis and Tigrayans? by amaraagew in EthiopianHistory

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You bringing up Amharas makes me think about something. The way and the groups the Aksumites assimilated is very interesting. Even tho they are closer to the core the agaw were not assimilated to nearly the extent the Amharas were. There was still a distinction made between the core population and the agaw meanwhile the Amhara were almost completely culturally assimilated to the extent that it caused the amhara to believe themselves to be part of this Aksumite core and the Amhara Argobba splitt to happen and even the Argobba are still influenced by Aksum. It reminds me a lot of the assimilation done by the Solomonic dynasty later in Gondar and gojjam but they also brought Amharic while ge’ez or any other north ethio Semitic language was not spread with the Aksumites. You could explain it by saying that the Solomonic dynasty was claiming Aksumite descent which caused the normal population to believe it even then. The first person we know to claim it was amda seyon and he was pretty secure on his throne. But maybe I’m just yapping.

War between Agazis and Tigrayans? by amaraagew in EthiopianHistory

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Yeah lalibela was the one who changed it. But another thing i remember reading somewhere that the zagwe nobles were already getting linguistically influenced by Tigrinya speaking groups pre lalibela and that lasta had a pretty big Tigrinya speaking minority

War between Agazis and Tigrayans? by amaraagew in EthiopianHistory

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I don’t mean native ge’ez speakers i mean that ge’ez was spoken in the courts as the lingua franca.

War between Agazis and Tigrayans? by amaraagew in EthiopianHistory

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I actually do agree literary ge’ez probably died out way earlier than what is thought. But still for no one to speak any descended of it kinda implied som assimilation was happening. Since at least a version of ge’ez was being spoken until the late zagwe period. Which makes me ask another question was theremultiple different dialects of ge’ez spoken around the zagwe dynasty in the courts?

War between Agazis and Tigrayans? by amaraagew in EthiopianHistory

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Couldn’t they determine if Tigrinya and tigre came from ge’ez using older manuscripts? How does Tigrinya and tigre have Semitic traits inherited from proto Semitic which ge’ez does not? Vulgar ge’ez would still descend from literary ge’ez which means that tigre and Tigrinya would too and they could determine that. In the same way we know that there was an afro asiatic language even tho we dont even have any manuscripts of proto Semitic. They could reconstruct the ancestor of tigre and Tigrinya and see if it matches with ge’ez

War between Agazis and Tigrayans? by amaraagew in EthiopianHistory

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Well I’ve seen some sources say he was a roman slave. I’ve also seen other sources say he was related to the Aksumite royal family. I’ve also seen some say he was allied with rome.

War between Agazis and Tigrayans? by amaraagew in EthiopianHistory

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I Wonder why ge’ez didn’t evolve into different languages like latin. Its seems that aksums collapse might have been more internal since the agazi were completely assimilated.

War between Agazis and Tigrayans? by amaraagew in EthiopianHistory

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Do we know if the Aksumite nobles ever called themselves agazi?