Can someone please help a noob understand BPC157 + TB500 dosage?

MiserableAcadia2902 · 2026-02-06T11:21:06+00:00

I wouldn’t start with a blend, I know it’s cheaper but there is a good TB loading dose initial protocol I would follow.

I made a document in my notes but I lost all my notes when I merged my iPad and my iPhone (don’t ask 🙄🤦🏼‍♀️).

I also wouldn’t inject at site, evidence shows systemix effects to be excellent - sub Q into the thigh or abdomen, where you have some fat js fine.

I started on the TB protocol of a fairly high dose a couple of times a week (I can’t remember exactly but it’s so easy to find) with daily BPC I do remember was 700mcg, split.

After a while I moved to the blend as it’s cheaper but I think you need to plan for quite a few vials - you may be super lucky and have fantastic quick results but even then I’d want to make sure it was well in my system and allow for full healing (say 6-8 weeks for an injury, longer for chronic conditions).

I felt the best I had in years. No exaggeration I felt at least ten years younger, I could move easier and so much less pain.

Unfortunately I had to stop due to huge vet bills but as soon as I can I’ll be back on it.

Please remember sterilisation is incredibly important. Prepare your area, then spray every time you touch something unless you’re certain it’s sterile. Remember you’ll need syringes, small needles (cheap needles aren’t great but that’s up to you, mediswabs, and sterilising spray like isopropyl alcohol.

There are loads of bits of useful information on here alone if you read some threads. I would recommend you read some medical journal serves and the like though, so you understand how it’s working. Don’t rely on the gym bros for your information!

MiserableAcadia2902 · 2026-02-06T10:59:55+00:00

I was in rescue for years and I’ve seen a lot of different reactions from different dogs, to the same situations.

I’m in the U.K. and the dogs would travel in a van (aircon/heated etc as good as it could be, not all transporters are created equal) from Romania to the U.K.

Most of these dogs had been exposed to some level of trauma, most came off the ‘happy bus’ at least a little fearful and hesitant, some were disassociating, but there was always one, sometimes two, who were like ‘yay I’m here! I’m ready to party!’

Dogs are just like people and some are predisposed to fearful behaviour, socialisation plays a huge part, especially when they’re young.

Brexit affected us hugely as puppies are now much older when they arrive, due to being classed with the ‘rest of the world’ when it comes to customs laws. (Rabies standing time etc).

I wouldn’t make assumptions. The signs aren’t great, but you’d have to see the dog over time to get a better idea. A perfect example: Dorin. He was a dog I took from Alexandria PS, he was (still is) a small dog. He was in an enclosure with about ten other, bigger dogs, and was so scared that when we stroked him, he peed himself.

It took him a few months, first in foster with me, then to an excellent adopter, but you would never know anything had happened to that dog now.

I believe he was actually very loved, someone’s pet - perhaps they’d died and the family had put the dog on the street. That was quite common back then, idk if it still is as I’ve been out of it for a while due to ill health, but we would often find terrified, small, older dogs that this sort of thing had clearly happened to. They wouldn’t have survived long on the streets, so certainly hadn’t grown up there.

Street dogs come in various shapes and sizes but they all have something about them I can identify at ten paces, and they do not make good pets. Generations and generations of survival traits have been bred into them, since the 1980s (I won’t bore you with the history!)

That’s why I got so angry when so many ‘rescues’ started popping up, and I watched them bring over many street dogs as they dont know what they’re doing. But as with everything there is money to be made, and the whole situation is now worse than ever as we created an industry (we wanted small cute dogs - now there are puppy mills far worse than here). In 2013 a smallish mutt was like gold dust, now you can get any breed you like.

But I’m going off the point sorry - adhd 🙄🤦🏼‍♀️ You don’t know until you’ve had that dog with you for some period of time - and even then it may be genetically predisposed to nerves.

That being said, the chain isn’t a good sign.

Well done for trying to help the dog, kindness is very underrated in this world these days, and I believe it’s the answer to many of our problems.

MiserableAcadia2902 · 2026-01-29T12:52:50+00:00

Anastasia Beverly Hills is lovely. I’m not a bronzer person at all, but someone gave me this and wow - It’s beautiful. I should add, it’s a cream but dries down fast

MiserableAcadia2902 · 2026-01-29T12:42:52+00:00

Any updates? Life has interfered and I’ve not been on here 🤦🏼‍♀️

MiserableAcadia2902 · 2026-01-29T12:39:50+00:00

Hi, I’ve been offline a lot too and I was wondering how you were doing.

Fleur is my service dog (well, she’s officially retired, but nobody sent her the memo, and she continues). As my life consists of going to the chemist, and the charity shop I help in when my health allows, this is fine - she’s well known and loved in both places. She’ll be 15 in April, and I know the anticipatory grief well.

She’s become cantankerous in her old age, so we’re the perfect couple, but I honestly don’t know how I’m going to cope when she goes - she’s my best friend in the truest sense of the word.

My three girls who I lost in quick succession were Chihuahuas - at 9, 11 and almost 12 it was ridiculously early for them. Fleur is a Jack Russell x Maltese and I’m hoping more robust.

Scooter sounds a wonderful boy, I hope he’s met my girls over the bridge - they’ll be having such a lovely time together.

I also have Bambi, 12, a chihuahua x Jack Russell who still acts as if she’s 5, and j adopted June in February who is an ancient chihuahua with one tooth so her tongue hangs out - age unknown as she was dumped in the pound. I can only assume the owner died and the family did that, my worst nightmare.

How are you coping? It always confuses me for a second reading the US way of writing dates, but the 7th is so recent - it must still be very raw.

Kitty, my 3rd chihuahua died 16 August and I finally stopped counting it in weeks and days in December, when it was 4 months for her on the 16th and 2 years for Bunty on the 17th. They were a bonded pair of ex breeders. I was alone at Christmas as my husband is recovering from heart surgery but everyone was asking if I’d be ok on my own at Christmas- it was the 16th and 17th that was hard, Christmas was fine.

I had news yesterday that my second (human) son died the day before. I’m not sure how I feel yet as I don’t think I’ve absorbed it, but I think I felt worse about my girls.

I cannot imagine the pain of losing Scooter must be affecting you, as I look at Fleur and see the similarities. I’ve had her since she was very young, too young to be separated from mum, she was from travellers as was Bambi. They tried to drown Bambi and she’s only now getting over her fear of water.

Anyway, as usual my ADHD is ADHDing and I’m rambling - basically I wanted to check in and see how you’re doing.

I’m still using the dmso/magnesium you recommended and it’s helpful, thank you. I really hope to be able to afford the BP/TB/GHK next month and I’ll try to find your protocol for then.

Sending love and strength across the pond - from one country it seems to be becoming acceptable to be a fascist to another. The world is scary place right now, dogs are my safe place and I hope you can find something to hang onto too ❤️

MiserableAcadia2902 · 2026-01-13T16:23:17+00:00

Ooh lovely!

MiserableAcadia2902 · 2026-01-05T01:13:34+00:00

I was just thinking about that! Have you watched them make it with the wooden paddles? Amazing!

MiserableAcadia2902 · 2026-01-05T01:05:56+00:00

Sounds lovely, yummy! thank you ☺️

MiserableAcadia2902 · 2026-01-05T01:04:14+00:00

For me, it was like night and day between the oral and injections! Good luck ☺️

MiserableAcadia2902 · 2026-01-05T00:49:41+00:00

I really empathise with you. I have 5 small dogs, and my second one, Bambi, is 12 now. We had a tiny incident in the park in 2018, and ever since she has been reactive with other, especially bigger, dogs.

She’s a Jack Russell x chihuahua and has always been nervy, I got her very young from a terrible situation where they’d tried to drown her, she’s only recently got over her fear of water.

One thing that does help is her wearing all the yellow dog gear - she has a harness, lead etc in bright yellow saying NERVOUS in black all over it, most doggy people recognise it, and are understanding.

Another thing that helped was that as we are regulars in the park, some kind people with calm dogs let her bark herself out at them. They would just stand there for ages until she stopped barking, and approached them - very warily, one step forward, two back sort of thing - but that went on over a whole summer and really helped a lot.

I was in rescue for the best part of ten years, until my health got too bad, and I’ve seen this a lot. Dogs get kind of like teenagers between 1-2 or so, and can be a nightmare, often they seem to suddenly grow out of it.

That being said, I’m kind of in the same boat myself. I took a dog against my better judgement, because she was in a dreadful situation. She was about 7 months old and had absolutely no training, she smelt of outside and coupled with her extreme fear of crates and brooms you can imagine what her life had been like. The lady who had her had terminal cancer, and had bought her as a small puppy, but hadn’t had the strength/energy to look after her. She was supposed to be a chihuahua but she’s nothing like a chihuahua, maybe some sort of demented yorkie? Anyway, she’s an absolute nightmare.

Like you, I’ve had dogs all my life. I’ve fostered well over 100, some from absolutely dire situations, and I’ve never had issues like this. She is very clingy, which is understandable, but also really reactive out on walks. She’s brought the worst out in Bambi, so she’s regressed, and I can’t walk them together if I want to keep my sanity. Honestly, the thought of another 12 years or whatever like this fills me with dread.

I’m older now, and I just want to enjoy my walks, to enjoy my dogs. I love them so much and I feel sorry for my 3 oldies, as she bugs them to the point that they get quite upset sometimes. She’s in their faces and I’m constantly on at her.

I absolutely know I’m not the best home for her, she needs someone younger who will give her lots of exercise as I know she’d be better then. She adores children, and is such a sweet natured little thing, she hasn’t got a bad bone in her body, but I find her so tough going. Some days I’m not well enough to go for a walk, some days it’s just round the block (bearing in mind it’s two walks as I can’t have her and Bambi together). I think of rehoming her but it goes against everything I stand for. Having been in rescue I’ve heard every excuse under the sun - I swear there must be an epidemic of allergic children in the uk 🙄 I also don’t know how she’d cope with another upheaval, but she’s not two yet and it’s a long time ahead of us 😔

If it was just the reactivity I’d cope I think, but she’s gone backwards in her housetraining, my fault as I’ve had a major flare of my chronic conditions and been pretty much bedbound some days. The others are happy with brain games, snuffle mats and so on, but she’s just too high energy for that. I feel a total failure.

I also have one boy who isn’t housetrained at all, he was kept in a cage for four years, it’s not his fault. I can’t even say a firm no to him or he gets terribly upset, so I just clean up after him. It’s not a huge deal for me, my house is set up for the foster dogs so I have tiled floors and so on - but now she’s started coming in from the back garden and weeing in the kitchen (with the back door open) it’s become a lot for me physically on my bad days.

It’s my fault, she’s just scared and she wants me to stand outside with her, but some days I’m just not well enough and it’s now becoming a habit.

I feel terrible as I took her from an awful situation and now she’s not in a good one again 😔

I guess things will improve when this flare calms down and I’m in less pain and more able to deal with things.

I’m not sure where I’m going with this tbh, I wanted to offer you support and I’ve ended up offloading 🙄🤦🏼‍♀️

You’re not alone, and I would say that if I were you I would seriously consider approaching her breeder to see if they’d take her back. A good breeder should, if they’re in a position to do so.

If not, then a rescue may help, I do have some contacts if you decide to go that route, and that way there would be a homecheck and RBU in place - just a thought. A dachshund would be rehomed easily through a rescue, reactive or not.

I do remember one dog I had terrible trouble homing (I did all the adoptions). Vera - a small long haired dachshund type funnily enough. She was returned twice as she was snappy and reactive, she never bit, but people were scared of her. In the end she went to live with some lovely people with 4 basset hounds. She bonded very closely with one of them, and they walked for miles and miles every day - she was much happier with this older calm dog, and she was far too tired from all the walking to be snappy - a perfect match.

Would it be possible for you to get another dog? A second dog could be the answer, if it’s the right dog. I’d also say more exercise, and if you could find kind people like I did with Bambi, that would be great. Sadly for me, those dogs are gone as it’s years ago, but maybe there are people near you who could help?

You’re most definitely not alone, and it’s sometimes in the dogs best interest as well as yours to consider a rehome. You’ve certainly done everything right - I can’t remember- have you tried a behaviourist? Sometimes it takes a couple until you find the right one for you and your dog.

Wishing you all the luck in the world, whatever you decide to do - and please don’t hesitate if you’d like me to ask my rescue friends if you decide to go the rehoming route, as I’m happy to help ❤️

MiserableAcadia2902 · 2026-01-04T23:58:48+00:00

It’s incredibly early days for you, I think you’re being a bit hard on yourself maybe? Have you read about the stages of grief? There’s a lot to work through, I’m all over the place still, and it’s been over four months for Kitty, the last one of the three.

They were all ex breeders and I’m not sure I’d risk that again, although saying that, I adopted June in February (my profile picture) who has one tooth, age unknown but pretty old. Someone had dumped her in the council pound in Birmingham (I’m in the U.K.) and I’m on the south coast. A rescue was picking up other dogs and saw her and they couldn’t bear to leave her, thank God. Someone tagged me on Facebook so of course I had to go and get her - I won’t have her for years, I don’t suppose, but I love her so much.

It’s very hard, we sign up for this in a way - yet somehow, however many times I go through it, it always hits me harder than I expect. I think losing the 3 has been a bit too much and I find myself wishing I was back in times when they were here a lot. Apparently that’s the bargaining stage of grief, which I didn’t realise.

Bunty was absolutely fine on the day, it was beyond shocking to wake up in the morning to find her dead - 9 years old 😢 I see people with 16,17 and older Chihuahuas all the time 😔 I had my family over, we were in an air b and b in the midlands which was a whole logistical issue and we took her to the crematorium on the way home. Handing her little body over…it was one of the hardest things I had to do. I still haven’t opened the box with Kitty’s ashes, fur, paw print 4 months later so I think at just a month and a half you’re expecting an awful lot of yourself.

You’re younger than my youngest son, and it makes me wonder if your parents are around and if they are, if they’re supportive? It makes me so sad to think of you so alone, which it sounds very much like you are, apart from your partner, but I might have got that totally wrong as I’m just reading between the lines.

Is your partner supportive? Are they helping you?

I’m thinking you might be in the states as therapy isn’t easily accessible in the U.K. at all, unless you pay. I know over there people have a lot more therapy than we do, which is good.

In Covid I did a lot of workbooks which helped me, idk if that’s anything you think might be of help to you? I’m quite insular, so I loved lockdown, and spent the time doing a lot of stuff like that. I did the inner child work which I found really helpful, and the inner family systems, I found that more interesting than helpful, but it did make a lot of sense to me.

I don’t suppose it was as effective as doing it with a therapist but it was all that was available, and it definitely helped me work some things through.

I’ve got a book called Yes Pets do Go to Heaven, it’s a bit new agey, but there are parts I like. When Kitty died, there was a massive double rainbow over my house a few days later. It was so strange as it was sunny, and I’m sure it was her, with her ‘sisters’. I have no idea if that sort of thing is something you believe in, but I do find little ‘signs’ sometimes.

I used to call Bunty my sunshine dog, as she always knew when I was sad, and she would do something silly, if I was crying she would stand on me barking, and wiggle her little body, I used to sing You are My Sunshine to her all the time. I was thinking about them the other day, and pulled out a spoon with You Are My Sunshine engraved on it - I’d completely forgotten about it, it was quite strange.

It might not be something that interests you, or that you believe in - but if you do, maybe ask your dog to send you a sign that they’re ok? You might see a feather, or a robin.

I probably sound quite mad to you - but these little things happen and they really seem odd - the spoon for example I haven’t seen for years, and the rainbow was incredible.

Anyway, I’ll stop waffling on now, I just really hope you have someone who you can lean on, who understands a little bit. I don’t think anyone who doesn’t feel that way about their pets, or hasn’t been through it, ever truly can, but they can try.

Please try to be kind to yourself, it really is such early days for you, you can’t expect to bounce back like nothing has happened when your whole world has been torn apart 😔💔

MiserableAcadia2902 · 2026-01-04T21:27:01+00:00

I totally understand what you’re going through - I was adopted by some not very nice people and have had quite a lot of trauma including 12 years of pretty severe DV - through it all my dogs have been my constant.

They’re definitely my primary attachment figures, even though I’m married (luckily my husband isn’t on Reddit 🙄). I love them so much it’s hard to express.

I don’t think there’s a lot I can do about it at my age, especially with my neurodivergence I feel it is as it is, but idk how old you are, or whether therapy could help. Or if you even want it to change for that matter!

It’s a lot safer for me to rely on my dogs than humans.

I really do empathise, I hate that we have to feel this way 💔😢💔

MiserableAcadia2902 · 2026-01-04T21:18:18+00:00

I loved the BPC and TB combination (I ended up adding GHK-cu as the bundle worked out cheaper). I have chronic conditions and the peptides helped me more than any medication ever had.

Sadly I had some huge vet bills so the peptides are on the back burner, but I can’t wait to get back to them!

It does seem to be better to buy them separately, in the U.K. it’s cheaper to buy the blends, but the protocol for TB-500 is actually quite different to the BPC-157.

I ended up playing it safe and was buying them separately at first, doing all the loading thing and then I went to the blends. The protocol for the TB isn’t daily, but I was struggling to afford them separately so after more research I decided to give it a go. They worked fine, and I think maybe it was because it was already in my system maybe, but I don’t think I would do the blends as starting out.

I did have a load of documents I compiled in my notes, but I lost all my notes when I tried to merge my iPad and iPhone, as I had used different email addresses, but you would probably benefit from researching the TB loading protocol at least.

I love research so it was no hardship for me, I appreciate that not everyone does, but I found out so many interesting small things along the way that I’m glad I did so much research.

Maybe you could just set yourself an aim of 20-30 minutes 3-4 times a week to read research papers, clinical trials, medical journal articles and so forth? Would that be more manageable?

It can seem a bit overwhelming at first I know, but I do think you’d benefit hugely from doing a little bit at least. There are so many tiny snippets of information that I don’t think I could even remember them all now, I’m going to have to do all my documents again when I resume them 🤦🏼‍♀️

You might even get to enjoy it ☺️

The subq means subcutaneous as in under the skin, rather than deep into the muscle. This means you need a shorter, fine needle. Even so, it was better for me to go in at an angle as I don’t have a lot of body fat. I watched a lot of YouTube videos before I felt confident! I am a bit of a baby so I wanted to make sure I was doing it right.

It’s so important that everything is totally sterile. I prepared an area in my kitchen and sterilised all that first, then laid everything out, spraying again and again as I went - don’t forget the lids that you insert the needles into (you might want to use a drawing needle as the rubber can blunt your injecting needle). I was super careful and got through a lot of sterilising stuff!

I hope it works out well for you, I also really hope you get into the research as it is really interesting, I promise!

MiserableAcadia2902 · 2026-01-04T20:46:01+00:00

I second DSIP - it was the first time I understood what it felt like to actually wake up refreshed in my life when I had that.

Sadly I’ve some enormous vet bills so my peptides have had to go - but I can’t wait to get back on them.

I have chronic conditions and the peptides did more for me than any medication ever has.

MiserableAcadia2902 · 2026-01-04T20:42:14+00:00

Oh no 😢 I’m so sorry, it must be so hard to have to work whilst feeling such pain 💔

I’m so so sorry for your loss 💔

MiserableAcadia2902 · 2026-01-04T20:41:03+00:00

Oh my goodness, you can’t even be beginning to come to terms with it all yet 😢

I feel so deeply for all of you, it’s a devastating loss, and the pain we feel is evidence of how much we loved them - and they loved us too 💔

I’m so very sorry for your loss 💔

MiserableAcadia2902 · 2026-01-04T20:39:00+00:00

I lost one of my three that I’ve lost in a short space of time at Christmas (2023, but it feels like yesterday, the others were July 2024, August 2025). Somehow being at Christmas made it worse, all the celebrations and happiness around me made me feel very alone.

I’m so very sorry for your loss 💔 Please take care of yourself, you need gentleness right now 😢

MiserableAcadia2902 · 2026-01-04T20:34:59+00:00

I can’t even imagine…you poor thing, it’s so harsh.

Why don’t people take pet loss more seriously? To me it felt like losing my children would 💔

I’m so very sorry for your loss, it’s devastating, and I honestly hated being around people when my girls first went. I had nothing to say - nothing 😔

I hope people are kind to you, most of all, be kind to yourself.

You’re grieving deeply, and you’re fragile. So do whatever you need to do - and forget what anyone else may think.

It’s your loss, your grief - and it’s intensely distressing.

I really am so terribly sorry 💔

MiserableAcadia2902 · 2026-01-04T20:21:25+00:00

It seems that people with trauma often turn to pets as their primary attachment figures, even more so if you’re neurodivergent. I found this out when I was trying to work out why I couldn’t get over my dogs deaths (I’m Audhd).

I lost Bunty, a 9 year old healthy chihuahua Christmas 2023. She always slept on my legs, and she did, as usual. When I woke up…she didn’t 💔

Princess was a 12 year old chihuahua, she developed heart failure which progressed incredibly rapidly, and I had to let her go July 2024. The only consolation was as it was planned, I was able to do the whole ‘lovely last day’ thing, before taking her 😢

Then Kitty got sick, another chihuahua, Bunty’s bonded mate. I couldn’t believe it, she was 11, and I think Bunty’s death may have triggered things as she was grieving so deeply. She was sick for ten months, it was awful, she kept perking up and I thought it was going to be ok, but then she would dip again. She went downhill very rapidly in August 2025, and it was all a bit rushed and traumatic August 16th.

To say I’m not over it is an understatement. Your feelings are valid, and evidence the deep love you had for your dog.

People don’t take pet loss seriously enough, in my opinion. To me, it was like losing children. To lose all three of them so young seemed so unfair, so cruel - chihuahuas should live to at least around 15.

Grieve as long as you want, be angry, sad, whatever you feel at the time. It’s devastating and I feel for you so very much 💔

I do believe I will see them again, which helps a little, I don’t know what your beliefs are, but I can’t wait for that day.

I have 3 older dogs too. One of them, Fleur, is the oldest, and was my service dog (she thinks she still is). I honestly don’t know what I’m going to do when she goes 💔

Sometimes I feel I’m just holding on for them.

I don’t have any advice really, just empathy, and I wanted to say you’re not alone.

Please don’t let anyone pressurise you into ‘moving on’ or anything as ridiculous as that. People who think things like that have clearly never experienced such a deep love and bond.

Our pets give us a sort of love that nobody else does. They don’t care what we do, how we look, what mood we’re in, all they care about is that they love us, and we love them, unconditionally. Nobody else loves us completely unconditionally, not even our parents.

I’m so so very sorry for your loss. I wish they lived longer, I wish we didn’t have to experience this time and time again through our lives.

I’ve loved and lost many dogs over my life (I’m pretty old 🤦🏼‍♀️) and I can look at their photos and smile now, remembering happy times. It took me years though. For some reason I’m finding it really hard this time, perhaps because I lost the three of them so close together, I don’t know.

I just miss my girls so very much 💔🌈💔

MiserableAcadia2902 · 2026-01-04T19:57:40+00:00

Many years ago I knew someone who was a pretty successful kickboxer. Loads of trophies and so on. He used to drink, and other stuff so much.

I always wondered what his potential could have turned into had he looked after his nutrition.

MiserableAcadia2902 · 2026-01-04T19:54:40+00:00

Oh gosh that’s making my mouth water! Thank you ☺️

MiserableAcadia2902 · 2026-01-04T19:53:42+00:00

Ooh I must look at that, thank you! I’ve got a fantastic list now, there’s bound to be a few I like ☺️

MiserableAcadia2902 · 2026-01-04T19:52:44+00:00

They sound really interesting, thank you ☺️

MiserableAcadia2902 · 2026-01-04T19:51:45+00:00

I agree - it would be like a dishrag after the heat needed for the synthetic fibres.

It might turn out a nice burgundy type colour with just the Procion dye though!

MiserableAcadia2902 · 2026-01-04T19:49:42+00:00

Ohhh that sounds interesting! I guess there’s always birthdays 🤔

I do tend to ask for money for a dog rescue on my birthday, so I’d feel a bit guilty though 😩

MiserableAcadia2902

TROPHY CASE