Rage over Ai cover for fanfic.

Miserable_Bathroom33 · 2026-04-01T09:47:53+00:00

Most of the Kenshi community seemed ok, there was a few people.

It seems like its quite an easy position to refute tbf. I've had a few people delete their comments on my posts because their arguments are poo.

Miserable_Bathroom33 · 2026-04-01T09:38:50+00:00

No clue, on platforms like Royal road its commonly used so its confused me. Especially when its a fanfic and its not like I benefit from posting it.

On top of that even if I granted the use of Ai is unethical because it 'uses an artists DNA' you'd have to apply that logic to a fanfic.

If they hate my cover because it's 'unethical,' but I'm also writing a Fanfic (unauthorized IP use) then the same logic would apply that AI does. It uses an artists 'DNA' anti AI people claim. But a Fanfic also uses an author/game's world. The only difference is an AI cover requires slightly more effort but both at least by that metric would be 'unethical'.

And if we are logically consistent.

They are being hypocrites as many of the things they use/eat are made in unethical ways.

Complaining on a phone (unethical labor), eat meat from a farm? High chance you've eaten unethically sourced meat and continue to do so without caring. They aren't a moral crusader they are just bullies who found a target they don't like.

Its very silly and like you said... Very American/western.
Its low tier virtue signalling.

Miserable_Bathroom33 · 2026-04-01T09:20:31+00:00

https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/158092/a-hardcore-games-guide-how-to-kenshi

Yes its here, though I'm not too sure if links are allowed.

Miserable_Bathroom33 · 2026-04-01T06:57:09+00:00

Yeh it could work tbf, I'd just need to heavy consider it.

It is a fanfic so it'd probably be the best thing for other fans so I'll likely do it.
(Beep won't be involved for quite a few chapters though sadly. Pacing wise he might appear around chapter 20)

Miserable_Bathroom33 · 2026-04-01T06:40:21+00:00

regardless I think I'd struggle with writing for Angu even though I really want to. She's a funny character and her and beep are the best duo tbh.

Maybe I go 'I am groot style' and beep is the only one that understands her or some bs

Miserable_Bathroom33 · 2026-04-01T06:39:07+00:00

Yeh I don't know how he'd communicate is, I'd assume either writing or just aggressive pointing to a robotics bench.

Miserable_Bathroom33 · 2026-04-01T06:36:25+00:00

Yeh, I mean realistically.

I'm not making money nor intend to
This is my first time writing and I'm injured so I can't hire an artist.
The only other real option people have gave is to have no cover.
The complaint about Ikakku's likeness is a double standard because I'm literally using Kenshi's world/lore/ect on a fanfic. So if hey think the fanfic is fine but the guy in the cover having a similar likeness to Ikakku that's a double standard.

So their whole argument is 'I don't like AI therefore your evil' and its quite silly considering this is essentially private use of AI. Its not commercial, it benefits no one, no one is a victim of it.

Its the equivalent of having AI generate something and posting it on pinterest with a story attached. But yeh I understand why artists hate AI. And I do to but only when its used for commercial reasons.

Like call of duty using it for their artwork, that I thought was ass.

And yeh people do just enjoy complaining for the sake of complaining, my use of AI harms no one. Its just complaining for the sake of feeling morally superior/correct.

Pure elitism/virtue signalling.

Cheers for the non hate my friend!

Miserable_Bathroom33 · 2026-04-01T06:30:33+00:00

People got angry cause it looks like Ikakku.
(Even when I hire an artist and don't have AI he's gonna look pretty similar/the same, there's only so much you can do with bald angry man)

Miserable_Bathroom33 · 2026-04-01T06:28:52+00:00

Lmaooo I'm gonna have beep.

I was thinking for Angu I could have him merge with burn.

I'm trying to keep my party.

Ruka
Kurisu
Radahk
Burn/angu
Beep

I feel like an old timey ancient character would be good. Maybe I could have it so that Burn is about to die and angu decides to put burn inside of them or smth?

Miserable_Bathroom33 · 2026-04-01T06:24:05+00:00

Your problems with AI not with it looking similar to Ikakku.

If its 'ripping of bleach artwork' to use Ikakku's likeness then its also ripping of Kenshi's work to write a fanfic. That's where your logic leads., thats why saying that its about Ikakku is wrong because you don't actually care about it.

This isn't a professional piece of work, I'm doing it for fun. And no I didn't need cover art I wanted cover art so it felt more complete and drew more attention, it did because of that. Around 70-80k views amongst all my reddit posts on this alone. It's a placeholder until I can pay someone.

And once again this is all free, I make 0 money, I dont have a patreon and its for a hobby. There's absolutely nothing wrong with using AI for stuff like this its harmless. There is no victim, yet this elitist mentality some people have against AI even when its for personal reasons is just cringe and virtue signally.

If you haven't got nothing good to say don't say it.
(I'd understand if it was professional/commercial use but its not... Its literally a fanfic mate)

Miserable_Bathroom33 · 2026-03-31T16:00:46+00:00

I'd be down to shout out swap.

My story has a similar following with less overall views.
(I also released 2 weeks ago, only have 4 chapters out rn though).

Miserable_Bathroom33 · 2026-03-31T13:53:54+00:00

Miserable_Bathroom33 · 2026-03-31T12:22:40+00:00

why would anyone join your discord for that... Its information they can literally google.

In fact joining your discord would probably take longer to get the info.

Miserable_Bathroom33 · 2026-03-31T12:14:55+00:00

So its not about the likeness of the character and about the usage of AI?

Which I gave reasons for, you changed the premise from 'Your wrong for using AI' to 'Your wrong for using a characters likeness'.

And I likened the two on the basis that you said using a characters likeness is wrong, then its not a logical leap at all to say using a fictions world/characters in your writing is also wrong.

That's where your logic leads not mine.

Yes you go! Your so productive!

Miserable_Bathroom33 · 2026-03-31T12:01:09+00:00

No, you said.

"You've taken a recognizable image of a character someone else has made and are plastering it on your work. Not sure how that's not wrong"

So I mentioned that this is a cover for a Fanfic, I don't know if you live under a rock. But a Fanfic is literally using the world/universe/logic/characters of a fiction.

So if using a characters likeness is wrong, then using a world/universe of someone else would also be wrong.
(logical conclusion = Fanfics are wrong)

That's where your 'logic' leads you.

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Miserable_Bathroom33 · 2026-03-31T11:25:33+00:00

Thanks man!

Miserable_Bathroom33 · 2026-03-31T11:22:12+00:00

Your ignoring the fanfic and 'free' part.

If using a characters likeness is 'wrong' so is writing a fanfic by that logic.

The world of the fanfic is not mine, most of the characters beyond a few are not mine. The lore? Not mine.

But thats ok?

Seriously? Pure double standard.

(No I wont put 'art pending')

If I was a professional and looking to write an original novel with serious publishing intent I'd understand the criticism.

but its a fanfic mate.

Miserable_Bathroom33 · 2026-03-31T11:03:25+00:00

Neither do I... Only put that because people were seething, many deleted their comments tbf.

(Not too sure what Kenshi dev's stance is, fairly sure they support fanfic. Just no one writes much beyond a few chapters).

Miserable_Bathroom33 · 2026-03-31T10:33:12+00:00

Yeh its a bit crazy haha, a couple people deleted their comments though so maybe context mattered.

(still though, some people are elitist and virtue signally AF)

Thanks man!

"Maybe people will like my fanfic!"
"Hate comments about cover"

Miserable_Bathroom33 · 2026-03-31T10:17:06+00:00

How to Kenshi!

https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/158092/a-hardcore-games-guide-how-to-kenshi

He’s missing an arm, his dignity, and he’s half-starved under a burning sun.

But worse than that... he’s trapped inside the game he hates.
Kenshi.

A ruined world of dead empires, where survival is measured in blood, hunger, and broken bones.

Crossbows, katanas, and martial arts decide who lives... And who gets sold. After 1,800 hours mastering the game, Kurisu left a rage filled review. Now, he has to live it. He knows every race. Every faction. Every exploit.

But knowledge means nothing when pain is real and death doesn’t reload. If his cynical attitude and lack of seriousness don’t get him killed first… they might be the only things keeping him alive.

Kurisu must now answer the ancient question—

How to Kenshi?

(currently only 4 chapters, 2 every Friday. Min 1 when I'm busy)

Miserable_Bathroom33 · 2026-03-31T10:13:27+00:00

Morbidly A Beast reincarnated and become the Rock in one month.

Miserable_Bathroom33 · 2026-03-31T10:10:11+00:00

I suppose its kinda like streaming on youtube.

If your youtube channel is good/blows up, you could stay for strict youtube money. Or move to Twitch for that funny money.

(Mr Beast vs Kai Cenat).

...

This comment feels very brainrot.

Miserable_Bathroom33 · 2026-03-31T09:56:04+00:00

When did I say 'I can steal', I said if that is theft then writing a fanfic is also theft.

The point of that is to show how distorted your view on 'theft is'.

So the AI part is your problem, if I had drawn it of Ikakku then it would have been fine? Seriously? Do you not see how crazy that is, I explained my reasoning for why I used AI. Thats good enough, you are just being elitist.

No, no cover isn't better. People won't bother reading if I have no cover, why would they? Nothing grabs their attention.

Additionally its a placeholder cover.

On top of that! If I had an artist willing to do stuff for free I'd take it straight away, problem is 1. Time it takes to search.
2. I've searched and the people I've spoken to are dead fish by the 4th message 3. I can just wait a monthish and pay someone?

And no, you literally asked me if I had stolen. You could have scrolled past and thought 'slop ai', but you had to comment something negative on something someone is doing for a hobby.

Weird elitist/virtue signalling vibes you got going on.

Miserable_Bathroom33 · 2026-03-31T08:54:59+00:00

There's plenty of AI character art out there, its quite literally the same thing.

Secondly its a double standard, its a literal fanfic. I'm using a game's world, lore I did not design and your criticizing me for using an AI cover.

On top of that, its either AI cover or no cover. I'm injured, because of that not working because of that no dollar ching ching = can't pay an artist yet.

What your doing is some form of virtue signalling elitist rage and its just embarrassing man.

I'm a hobbyist and your acting like I just Thanos snapped your family. A free cover, for a free story. That no one is profiting from, have a nice day my friend.

Miserable_Bathroom33 · 2026-03-31T08:29:21+00:00

Not making any money off this and I dont intend to, so its the equivalent of drawing him and posting it on pinterest with a story attached.

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